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looks like we got some late day sellers coming in... but still under 30 million
if we can halve the previous days volume for a few days it will make me happy
maybe some skittish people on the filing and the low volume and stall in the up tick for past 2 days...
better than 6 days up and 9 days down imo
I dont trust any company when it comes to dilution...
as crazy as it sounds...
in a case like this... I would rather have seen a dilution... and then the share volume die like it has today...
but thats just me
your welcome... I thought you bought in around this range?
.0018 to .002
here is what id do if I was you...
if the stock moves against you like down to .001 just buy enough to cover your buy up top....
and look for a bounce from .001 to .0012 .0013
if it goes under .001 you load up wating for a run too .001
right now their aint too many sub pennies in play anways today...
one thats run looks like its coming back..
another 2 getting hit... but not hard enough
lol I came here to see who would be freaking out...
as long as we stay around 25 to 30 million shares traded today then will be fine....
this is going along your typical trading fashion...
stocks that get hit down like this... will usually take some time to consolidate down low... and then make a run...
if we see 50 to 70 million shares or more like a dump now
and we see .0013 to .0015 again...
then id say the stock is in weak hands...
id still load up but look to be selling on any runs or strength
today looks like its going to be a good day for longer term holders...
little volume no movement
paint drying on the wall day for the day traders...
heh
I just sold off some big board stocks today too... got another big load of cash freed up...
with no where to put it "mid or long term" right now...
be nice to see ATPT hit .001 hehehe
as long as the share structure stays the same... they can call it what ever they want...
all makes things look good
no vert today.... i would have probably tried to pick up to $20,000 worth of stock under .001
still got 500000 shares... though
how many free trading shares you got oldbee?
if you dont mind saying
you guys should have been asking who was dumping, why and how many shares...
not that it matters now...
but it good to know what they have to say about it...
im bid all the way down to .0001 LOL
I know I should really just wait down low too...
but I like to nibble just incase a stock does take off... and im sitting on no stock...
maybe ill lower the .0017 to .0015 bids down too 250000 shares...
well i just got 250000 shares at .0021 and .002
think im going to bid 500000 at .0017 down to .0011
okay thanks...
for me id rather be buying 5 million shares at a pop at .001 and under...
this stock would fit the profile... of "getting enough volume to do that at least..."
when a stock gets under .001 ill make money like 87% of the time...
even on the ones who R/S like 4 times a year
better chance than .01
I see...
well the only irritating thing about this stock too me is...
not knowing if were going to get more dumping... or not...
I tend to like to nibble... but then load up underneath
too each is own..
why news?
anyways stock is .0021
now will see how serious and how much strength these "new" guys have...
dude you just watch a stock swing back and forth and not make any money from it...
I got caught with my pants down...
nibbling back in at .0035 on the last massive dump
and had to cover big time at .0013 and .0015
because we cant call a bottom... all the time
yet im sitting with a nice profit...
waiting for the next dump
ya i actually got about 1.5 million shares at .0015 on that last dump... at .0015
so ive flipped the stock 4 times...
I have a feeling without Vert dumping(and thats a big if)... we wont see .0015 again...
too me looks like vert is out... and they are just eating up the stock waiting to put out news...
but will see, what time has vert in the past...come in and dump 1:00 eastern?
ya you get the selling on most stocks at those nice round numbers like .0025
so i like to sell and try to load up underneath...
well i dumped into the buying... back on the bid small bids at .002 and .0021 and more bigger ones .0018 down...
lets just play this one smart...
okay no problem, you would do a better job than me... just click on you want to be a mod button...
once they finally boot me
okay ill take myself off mod... let you be the main mod...
better than 120 million shares traded and a new low...
other than a swing trade like this most people dont have many options playing with these sub pennies...
buy and hold long term dosent work in the majority
other
than to try and buy a stock just before it runs... or while its on its run up.... look at how well that worked out for some in this stock...
really if anyone wants safety and security they can go invest in Lehman Brothers the 4th largest investment bank in the USA
I like todays trading...
lets hope no dumps... and for 25 million shares or less traded tomorrow...
and news in the next few days...
oldbee you want to take over as moderator?
i just took it as a lark..
if they are done dumping... and there is no news..
then the best thing is for this stock to stay right here...
and the volume to die...
then we will know the next time the volume picks up it will be either a big move up or a big move down...
worst is to have a pathetic run up and the stock gets hammered down...
then the next time it runs...you sell into it... hoping to buy back down low... only to have it run like 30 points past your sell point
LOL
even 5 billion OS is still a normal float...
check most stocks in the .002 range... they will have over 1 billion O/S
when you have billions... in O/S you rarely will see .01
but a run from .0015 to .0035 is not unheard of... or rare...
guys who are in at .03 probably wont see that again...unless there is really good news...
for a stock to run up get hammered down below the low of the initial run and too new lows.. for it too run back and break the old high of the intial run... in this case .0330
I have seen it happen in 20+ years of trading pennies... maybe less than 5 times...
yes Id rather be buying here at .0013 to .0017 range than '
at .03
people who bought at .03 and have not sold out
and are not buying at these ranges (.002 to .0001)... need to find a new job...
because they shouldnt have been buying at .03 in the first place then... if they are too scared to buy here.. or stupid to dump out after getting caught buying at the top
main thing now is news...
how much stock vert has to dump, and how low they will go
we need to stay above .0013 or were looking at new lows...
but then the lower it goes the better for us if this is only going to move on news...
lets not go overboard here...
ATPT has basically traded 133.5 million shares each of the last 3 trading days...
I think its safe to say the OS is more than 133.5 million...
now
im still holding 1 million shares
if the stock runs end of day... well probably get a better price Monday...
if not then we get to buy back in
have a great weekend folks...
be better if they just told the losers... dumping the stock to just dump it out... then we would know which direction it will move... once they are out...
I can buy a shietload of stock myself... but most of my bids are .001 and under like everyone else....waiting for the next VERT dump...
by the way this is just a technical bounce...
which may continue Monday... if they can keep it on the plus side or run it at the end of the day...
probably... what I have seen in the past... its usually a odd number...
ie a 10 million share cross is just tooo nice of a round number meaning they still have more...
but stock is looking good right now
3 hours to go...
like I said before... if they can keep this on the plus side... it will probably run again on Monday...
even if the stock gets hit... if it holds at .0013 and .0014 todays and yesterdays low....
where that cross when through...that will be a good sign..
lets see what the dumper does end of the day...
this is how the game is played... if your a day trader... if you cant take the swings... then dont play the game...
ooops sorry... only in Canada this month...
well there goes my theory
LOL
yes I usually leave a bit on the table... just incase the stock runs...
but usually thats with "made money..." ie made back initial investment... already and still have left over stock
here is my guess...
im thinking they keep the stock up today... long weekend....
they will keep the stock up.... so people can tell their buddies over turkey how great the stock is
stock wouldnt be dead... stocks that have billions of shares outstanding.... when get too .002 and under range...
become the norm.... your actually hoping for a stock trading this range to atleast trade 30 million shares... for it to be a good trader...
im hoping they hit this stock down again...
then we can all load up again...,
yes... be nice for it too go up and down a few times...
and then we get great news...
I just unloaded about 2.5 million...
going hold the rest to see how high the run takes us...
ive got over 5 million shares... vast majority bought at .0013 to .0015 range...
i bought back in after dumping out 90% of my stock yesterday...
and Im making a profit is at .0017 and .0018 right now...
problem is... those people will tend to sell and sell in a panic.. when the stock moves against them...
are you wondering why you are getting new lows everyday?
vert is just dumping to a certain level... and letting the retail drop it to new lows...
like I said before our only hope is for them to dump to a certain level... and the FULL amount of stock being crossed out....(thats a big hope)...
looks really bad if they cross out 50 million shares at .0014 and then the stock trades .001 2 days from now...
once we know that the stock has been placed in better hands... then we have a better chance to make big money... other than that were just scalping it hoping not to get caught...
well if your a daytrader and can make a profit at .0017 to .0018 then take it...
for the other guys stop trying to get people to buy.... when we all know there is more stock either coming from the dumper... or the day traders who bought in...
stock isnt going to move off of retail buying... alone
why you guys trying to get this stock to move now? without news... its just going to get hit back down...
there I just changed the Ibox a bit on the A/S and O/S... I think its safe to assume the 2.7 billion in restricted shares is in play...
before you jump all over me I just put my name up as the moderator for a lark... anyone want to take over its fine with me...