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" Bounce back to a penny "? Maybe, with some contrived buys by " friends " but then a return to the down side again 'till that road comes to a close.
Perhaps just a little interesting reading in an educational sense for any newbee's in " Pinky land ". The seasoned investor might even find it amusing also. Whether your here to just bounce the stock for your own personal gain or actually care about the product and it's potential. Not saying as fact that MRIB is a scam but will say I smell enough and see enough to not take this seriously as a sound investment for the innocent investors.
People might consider this post to be off-topic where as I believe it is related enough to be connected in a general sense. Perhaps not same game but perhaps in the same league. If interested Google " A MINI-ENRON AROUND EVERY CORNER " & Forbes Nathan Vardi article " I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CHASING THE MONEY ", the comment section in the later I found most interesting, educational and amusing. Gives a little perspective on the mine field in the " penny " league.
It's not the product nor the quality or too often even the potential ( which all to often is deceptively displayed ) but in reality it comes down to this " do they want to sell product or just sell stock ". That's always the bottom line question in the basement of the OTC.
And now a sudden resignation from the top ! What the hell is going on here ? Something smells & it sure don't smell pretty. Perhaps " Zacks " knows something and that's why they put it on their top 5 sell list ?
TOO FUNNY: As is well known your statement " Short MMs that pay most of the people that bash and lie about the Company's stock " is the biggest yet one of the most common fabrications employed by three common groups. 1. Paid pumpers, 2. Individual penny stock player pumpers. and 3. The unfamiliar investor who repeats garbage like that because he actually believes it to be true.
It's already been quite clearly explained on this board why it's not feasible and nearly impossible to short a penny stock at this level. Any knowledgeable investor will tell you that and even the most corrupt of groups know the risk isn't worth the gain. Sadly this " tool " still gets employed as a smoke screen in an attempt to try an discredit the posters who are posting information that is not favorable concerning the company.
Also, It's known that there exists the " cheerleaders " who in consort with others will intentionally post a negative fabrication just for the purpose of creating ammo that they will attempt to employee to discredit in whole or part the negative posters. Sadly a very commonly used tactic the " players " hope will be successful as they attempt to milk a dying cow. Squeeze out the last few drops before the inevitable rod to the brain occurs. Just sooo much cheap theater with the script taken right from the playbook.
Time will tell who's right and who's wrong here and you'll know if and when an end is near as you see these posters disappear.
You wouldn't want to bet on that Kris. I could name a bunch that had more irons in the fire that in the end busted out just because those who REALLY controlled things were far more interested in selling stock than beverage. And they were experts at playing the game. Beverages in Colorado, New York, Florida and on and on. Corrupt promoters, cooked books etc. and in the end busted out cuz' that was the intent. Product was only a vehicle, nothing more.
Where ? Everywhere ! Look at the announcements that never materialized. The promised shipments that never shipped and the array of excuses that they didn't.
What's the monthly burn rate for salaries and expenses (?) compared to what's allegedly being sold and to whom. Everything very suspect along those lines. " signed a contract with ( ? ) to carry our products ". OK how much did they order ? one or two cases to how many outlets ? seen that before.
Review some of the excellent " enlightening " posts by a few of the posters here who have done some deep d/d and try to discredit their findings. See what's there and not just what you want to see.
The financials, the filings, the long term history. Is this just another run at taking another bite out of the share selling apple ?
TIME SQUARE,,, OMG ! MONEY TV,,, DITTO ! who's kidding who here.
You've got some great diggers on this board. Some of the best I've ever seen when it comes to exposing the facts. Very easy to tell who the p/d's are and easier to tell who's presenting facts. You may not like them but it is what it is.
IMHO this is nothing but a penny-player stock at this time and I don't see much to suggest it will be anything more. Seen far too many of these beverage stocks with almost identical history.
Look at the history Billy, just look at the history. Understand what " Money TV " really is. Look at the history of so many of these posting " supporters " and then look at the recorded facts.
" Paid to post negative comments by those " shorters " hoping to drive the pps down ". Can't be done Billy which makes that statement B/S. Just because there may be a decent product means little if you have people more interested in selling shares than product. You can make more money quicker that way and then move on.
You don's spend money to advertise a consumable product in a region when the product isn't even available there yet. You may make some money in selling more stock that exceeds the cost of the advertisement and it may make it look like it's adding legitimacy to the company but guess what ?
I'd bet you a buck over half the longs here are not legit and that's being conservative. Boiler room and cartel employees doing their dance at your expense.
The evidence that should make you rethink your position is here. Play it if you will but don't fall in love. This company hasn't earned that yet and maybe never will.
Hummmmmm? Now if Matt knows that then I would think that the host of hosts of Money TV knows that to as well as many others. So that being what it is in my opinion clearly illuminates a knowing false presentation of an opinion with only one obvious intent. " Paid by short sellers to etc. etc. ".
Some people know no God.
Matthew: Thank you very much for your comprehensive post and the time you donated to educate some of the legitimate posters on this board. IMHO it's an obvious affirmation of your knowledge and character all done with the intent of illuminating the " mine field " some of the investors here are now deployed.
Wish I had half your stock moxie.
Best always.
" The news released Friday 10/31 is really an Earth-quaker " So why is any new announcement more credible then past announcements that let's just say haven't materialized as pumped Opps, strike that, as promised ?
Just say'n ............
Got some at .995. TIC is headed back up after the shake out and that means that TIT will follow. Take a look at the chart since the downturn after the new current high.
Couple of theories why the drop but it appears it was only temporary. Bet a buck she's up to $ 1.40 or beyond by Dec. 01st. BOL
Well SPEC. hate to tell you this but your wrong. Your analogy of comparables is wrong also.
Got close to some top beverage people once, very close. And in doing so I learned several things about bringing a product to market and one of the major things is that you DO NOT as a start-up waste money on advertisement in any selective market until the product is available in that market. The consuming public has a very short memory when it comes to advertisements of yet available products. Especially when they're selective products in a saturated market. How many competitors are there for Vodka on those shelves ? Marani Vodka will turn into Murry Gin in their minds in a relatively short period of time and totally be forgotten soon after when they can't physically see it in the stores. Marketing 101.
The publics thirst for new electronic is far greater than it is for a new select Vodka. Not everyone drinks vodka and kids walking around with the new phones, gagets etc. aren't in that market. Bad comparables. Multi-billion dollar companies can do some pre-marketing advertisments because they already know the demand, have all the cash necessary to fill that demand and already have their distribution lines in place. Big difference there buddy, big difference.
Actually after viewing a few of the scripted clips I think it's important for this to be put into proper perspective for the FEW non-P&D newer investors here who don't really know the game.
These info. clips are as about as factual as " reality TV " that have become so popular over the years. I'm amazed how it gets by so many that they're anything but reality. This scripted clip made me laugh. Sadly though there are those who think this guy just sincerely gave an honest analysis concerning the Nay-Sayers " as being paid by the shorters " !!! ( "Oh, did you hear that ? Don just said blah,blah,blah, So that's why they're here " ). And soon after all the plants pop up from their holes after getting falsely fertilized.
What a dirty game. " shipment has been redirected due to massive demand here at home ", " Costco selling out ", and the beat goes on by the self serving promoting investors.
Show us the money Margit, show us the money.
And when you get shaken by some of these antagonistic posts why don't you address them with countering confirmable information from a source other than a paid pimp. Just a thought.
I heard that and then had to play it again because I couldn't believe he said it as a matter of " fact ". What the hell was he thinking ? That was about the dumbest thing he could have said while addressing the matter of people posting negative comments.
Is this group really that sloppy ? WOW if they are.
Some people are really sticking their necks out here on both sides of the coin. Hope what they're saying as being fact is fact. Not referring to projections but to current information. Opinions are opinions and facts are facts and libelous presentation of false information can come back to bite you.
Time will be the great teller of truth.
Dumping like crazy the last month or so and just made the top 5 on Zach's SELL LIST. If and when we finally get the market correction that's overdue you could see this puppy trading in the mid- $5.00's imho.
Except that it looks that their paychecks got fatter along with those who direct them.
Thanks to the two on the advice of TOS... Tried to temper a few that in no way be a vio. so it's obvious what's happening.
Again, thanks and do appreciate the spirit in which it was given.
bol.
They can pay promoters that way.
It shows it 1.09 but I filled an order at 1.24 earlier today. She usually runs about .14 under TIC:V on the TSX and I got burned the other day when she ran through my 1.10 stop for a couple thousand shares.
Constantly moves on this low volume. Waiting for an increase to pull some off perhaps then wait for the Dec. pullback if there are no announcements by then.
And the show continues with all the little pumpers. IMHO it's obvious what this company is and follows a prescripted path. Shouldn't be long. Almost textbook its progression. God how do some people sleep at night.
Shame on you Matt and your " shooting from the hip " estimates. Perhaps with a little more D/D next time you'll be able to come in with a more accurate figure. A $28.00 dollar error is unacceptable. Hell you could buy a whole bottle of Vodka and get some change back with that miscalculated money.
Again,,, hope for others sake they don't get de-listed for failure to file. Especially after that last run up of a few short weeks ago. Geez that might smell fishy.
Dear if you'd be so kind please include the names and agencies (if any ) of the people you speak with.
Thanx in advance.
Certainly appears that way Buddy, certainly does. Maybe we could recruit a few here to do some research to save some time ? It would be funny to have it all out in the open as things progress.
Hate to see this happen to innocent investors again and am hoping there's a slight chance that this company isn't what it more and more is appearing to be.
Looks like dkam is on the same track possibly. Out of that one also.
Hey G,,,, Trying to sue is a waste of effort. Class actions suits in these cases yield nothing 'cept for the attorneys. The best way is when the SEC nails them and then works with the USAG office and you get a criminal prosecution and hope then for an asset seizure and victim reimbursement. Takes years and you might? get a third when all is said and done. Getting those willing to get the ball rolling (the right way ) is the tough part.
It's fun when the bad guys know it's coming and try and hide the ill gotten gains and the Feds find it. Or when someone sends you pictures of the for sale sign on the mansion the Gov. seized under court order.
Civil suits suck..... Goose uncle Sam and let him do the rest.
Has anybody actually seen the Time Square advertisement in person ? This should be a very fun week for a number of reasons.
I do have a Pacer account but haven't used it for a few years. If I can locate my ID number etc. I'll run it.
Well it appears I'm in again so I'll just say this. Thank you cuz' every little thing can count and sometimes count big. Connecting dots ? patterns etc.
The more the better IF ? this turns out to be a " stinky pinky ".
Oppps, that doesn't include the SEC actions. ($$$$) 6 ? 8 ? memory fails.
I think it was somewhere like 6yrs. 6 months combined + one with a gag order on his particular (bitch).
Appreciate your input Matt. We are familiar with this avenue and you are absolutely right. Kind'a been there done that.
:o ),,,,,,,,,,,,, after last time, sooo long ago I learned to keep a container of quick wipes on my desk.
Mums the word,,,, just between you and me now,,, bet there's gonna be some busy phones this weekend and maybe a company post here in the near future. Naturally a bunch of independent posts (lol) from people with NO connection to the company (lol) filling the board also in the near future.
Now that's what I'm talking about. Good job troop ! Hey B/R see what you started you Hoozer.
Right on,,, " IF THEY EXIST " , Did exist and do exist at present. How the contracts read is important also. Little clauses we don't get made aware of in them can be dangerous also " IF " they are in the contracts. Not say'n that's the case here but just say'n.
? - when do the Times Square flashings start ?
Best to go deeper " if " this is in-fact a pump and dump. Not just announcements. " connections ", " history of connections ", " contractors " , " history of contractors ", " lawyers ", " History of lawyers ". Then there's the contacting of every company ever named along the road to determine if announcements are true. Many, many man hours w/cost but always letting the " suits " be aware your doing something and a few more little secret things so not to show your cards 'till it's ready for the call.
" Uh 'ya will look into it but you failed to inform us of how they take their coffee " ? " Oooops, here it is at the bottom of the page. Sorry 'bout that ".
Hehehe, Me think'est this company better get their act together and show beyond a reasonable doubt that they're truly trying to make an honest go of it. If it's shown that's not the case then I think another Pandora's box will be opened and the tune " Back in the saddle again " will resonate from within. Costly fun I'm afraid but fun.
Please warn me when your going to do this. Spitting up my morning coffee while sipping and then having to clean up my computer screen this early is a pain :o) ...........
My bet is certain people have been monitoring the board since yesterday, saw some post they didn't like, made some quick calls in the early morn. and set this up for an increase. JMHO
Hehehe - What I say :o) .
Correction after looking at todays low. If she moves lower in the AM I'm buying and if she ticks up in the AM I'm buying. Anything under $ 1.10 is sweet for now.