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Buddy give it a few more weeks and this will be past as well - and then will that be a fact? :)
Don't be so harsh moosey - for Molen this has achieved exactly what he has sought from the outset.
And fact is fact.
For minute there you nearly had something but look a bit deeper.
HGA are when you scratch below the surface a recruitment agency supplying staff. Nothing wrong with that and good luck to them. Hardly confirms anything other that VGPR have spoken to them about recruitment, not actually appointed them.
And the value of the contract to HGA and the credibility they afforded it?
Even after a month this HUGE contract has not merited a mention on the news pages, or anywhere else for that matter, on their very extensive website.
One thing that should be fun, if and it's a massive IF, VGPR start recruiting contract staff through them how they are going to get credit. As ack has posted many times they have no cash, no assets but more importantly no credibility!
But of course the funding is going to come from grants lol - dream on
Come on at least give me a challenge!!!!!!!
Vega have "announced" not achieved, started, initialised or completed - no they have announced.
Here' s a challenge for you - go back over the past 3 years and tell me how many things VGPR have "announced" they are going to do and then either achieved, started, initialised or completed.
I will save you some time - they have only got one project of the ground, the butcher poker web site which lasted about three months before is closed leaving depositors - oh and original investors - hanging with no chance of recovering their money. Generally called theft in most countries.
Forward thinking statements is a caveat that pos Molen hides behind - work it out.
Only the best kind of roses Moosey!
The ones that grow best out of manure - just like the sort of BS that this idiot Molen has been feeding this place for years.
And your guess at the price close of biz, today tomorrow and therest of the week?
I will save you sometime - it will end in 3
Thank you for your post - go VGPR
That's original, could even be a vega original or a Molen original.
It's like groundhog day all over again!
Millions of shares traded, lots of new knowledgeable posters plus of course Molen telling great news coming!
End result - exactly where the price started and has been for weeks!
Come on guys wake up and smell the roses!
Must have meant NEXT Monday.
Go VGPR - LMAO
Wow never seen that statement before on this board!
I guess if it's said often enough may be one day it might happen!
But then again Mo I en lighten us
I guess anyone who shows this stock up for what it really is must be a basher. If you want to believe this is a genuine business then go ahead - give it two weeks and it won't be the badgers that have been and gone, just those that make a few bucks spinning and those who got caught - plus of course that clown and whoever he is paying when a new pump is coming. Do some DD on here the story never changes, just Molens aliases.
best to just play and move on is the way to go with this. VGPR has no plans, no assets and for certain no management team - they have all cut and run. He sits in his little world watching and waiting for the chance to dump a few more shares.
Hopefully if the rumours are right there will be a knock at his door soon and a quite night in with Bubba in cell 3 - we can but hope.
About as much sense as anything Molen says. He comes out with these statements, has done for three years, but they can never be substantiated. BY the time people read the next one he has made some more cash and moved on. THAT IS HIS ONLY GAME PLAN!
VGPR under Molen will never produce one single dollar of turnover.
with respect my friend that has been written by someone every time this had made a run. when it was poker, still their only asset is the poker licence remember (which is worth nothing) we moved to biofuels and some were saying forget the past, at first the massive company in a PO box in Montana. Then $1.6 million of assets were on their way to Thailand due to a deal struck with a huge Thai corp. Millions of dollars in grants in Georgia etc etc and always this is the NEW vgpr and forget the past.
The only thing new is how low that scumbag Molen is prepared to stoop to keep this going and get more people involved. JUst have a read back this stock just keeps repeating itself and will never be a proper business.
This is the first time I've checked into this for a few weeks having given up on trying to get people to see what a pile of crap this really is.
You have to admire Molen though - he changes a couple of words, introduces a Forbes article again, moves from Crackers to Crisp and suddenly we have a winner. Consistently he finds a few new aliases to tell us of the great news thats coming and then regurgitates some old rubbish he has spouted so many times before and out they come telling us all our problems are solved.
Well played Mike but just out of interest who are your management team?
Molen and Molen - the dynamic duo. Must cost you a fortune in the old confessional box keeping your sins at bay you hypocrit.
and when that happens we can all fly off to the moon and enjoy some cream cheese :)
the poker licence is non existent as well I'm afraid - just something he came up with to justify where the initial investors money went.
how many times has that POS allowed this to happen showing yet again a total lack of respect or regard for those have put money in - not just taken it out.
I suppose after being proven to be BS every report he has given in the past even he can't fantisize much more.
The only hope we can have is that he is in a cell somewhere or better still someone has finally caught up with him face to face.
great call
I would challenge anyone who thinks this is not a fraud to show one PR from the company that has come to anything other than another pump and dump.
apart from the ones where Molen announces that the company is or has changed names, has or is about to r/s.
there is nothing there
I was just wondering if its really cold for the people of Europe waiting for Micky "Mouse" Molen to deliver the 100% of production from Georgia?
don't hold your breath!
He is right though about Molen putting forward industry "names" to gain credibility. He has done that from the outset and all have falllen by the wayside because he fails to keep his word or deliver.
Whatever Brazilops agenda may be there is no doubt that he is spot on about this whole thing being a fraud and it amazes me that the incompetent fools at the SEC haven't got the brains to stop this.
Only in America!
Looks like Molen has found another Mug - a to pump this one for awhile
whassup??? does the little runt need his stocking filling for Xmas?
looks like Molen has dumped off another 100 million or so shares to find another pumper
Brazil Ops - you are wasting your time. There is a different agenda here for those that you are replying to and that is to spin this up and make a quick buck. They couldn't give a damn about whether Molen or VGPR is a legitimate business so stop wasting your time with them.
Those on this board that were "conned" into this months ago by Molen and bought in based on his original plan already know what you are saying is largely true but the fact is that most on here do not really care - it is a play, simple.
VGPR has no proper business, never has had, apart from when Molen cleaned out the accounts of the depositors on Butcherpoker. It will never deliver one single dollar of genuine revenue, only more shares traded by those including Molen himself who got in for nothing.
I just can't believe the little POS has been able to get away with it for so long but then again from his track record he has had plenty of practice
there is no doubt that there are two types of poster here. Those that see this as a pinky and therefore not to be taken seriously, play the price and spin up a nice return. Great if you got in low or are one of Molen's chosen many who have shares for nothing - gl to you.
Then there are those of us who bought into what we were led to believe was a principled business plan. Handed over our cash to Molen in the belief that he was setting up a proper business and we would be able to watch it grow and flourish. Molen continues to assure us that this is what he is still doing despite the fact that our initial investments are 1/20000th of where we came in, he hasn't generated one dollar of revenue or kept one promise or met one deadline in all the time he has been in "business" with us.
Fine if you are in the first group or are fed more and more shares by Molen. Not good if you are in the 2nd group sat helpless unable to trade out while this POS claims to be looking after our best interests.
If after all the crap this man has produced over the past couple of years you still think he deserves some credibilty then either you must be Molen himself AKA Carlstock, Beachboy etc etc or you must be crazy.
By all means continue to pump and dump - give my regards to the POS while you do - but don't deride the rest of us who cannot do anything other than hope that the SEC will get off their fat butts and do something about this crook.
any idea what happened to all the other high profile names that have been associated with this in the past? Manji was one who was going to lead us all to the promised land - what happened to him?
agreed - with pinkies these are not required but wasn't Molen spouting about moving this stock to a higher level where better accounting practices are a legal requirement?
or was that just another one of his unfulfilled ambitions?
I doubt they are spending very much on legal fees. No doubt Vega Original will confirm that wont you Mike?
Lol I love that one. Basically what you are saying is anyone who follows the Molen line is ok but to challenge him is wrong?
by the way the only AKA's were your buddies who quickly disappeared from here when discovered
the real facts Doc are that not once in three years of trading has this clown delivered to a statement or a PR. He does not defend his position other than to say stock price is not our primary concern. In english that means FU mug I got mine for nothing so why should I care.
We have had Poker Tours. Poker sites, buy outs in Montana, boats to Thailand, JVA's and LOI's with everyone from Chinese Government to Homer Simspon and not once has one single deal seen completion.
those are facts - well except the Homer Simpson bit but who knows - in Molens deluded little world we could be swapping shares for consultancy work on how to promote Duff recycled beer!!
I think if you read back over this board you will see that reply from MM so many times. The share price to him is irrelevant when you consider his shares cost nothing so any price that any mug is prepared to pay will keep him happy.
The company IS based in the US, the CEO is from the US and all of their offices - sorry PO boxes - are in the US except for the one in London which they gave up a long time ago.
the thing I find really strange is that there has been no PR or anything from Molen and Co for months now, even though we were told 2-3 weeks.
Whilst this timing is consistent with the total lack of reality with all his statements and PR to have nothing is very very strange. Having lost some of his voices on here there is even less information coming from the POS
A few more hundred thousand shares have been moved on though so maybe no surprise at all?
well spotted and ty for pointing that out
how are carl fuss and the gang?
apologies if the wrong conclusion was drawn from your comments but often my comments are jumped upon by Molens happy band of pumpers and as yet none of them have proven me to be wrong.
Unfortunately our group of investors who were in at the beginning are stuck with this and have seen our original investment devalued so many times now it is almost impossible to get all the noughts on the calculator when working out the percentage loss.
My one hope is that by "sticking" around it will make it more difficult for VGPR to keep selling their shares for this POS and as there is only one person involved in the whole thing we can assume where that money goes.
on what basis do you make that assumption?
I agree there is likely to be some news and then a surge and then a dump - they have got a lot of shares to get shot of - AGAIN!!!!!!
now you are being silly ;)
wait for it - Molen to release PR tomorrow
Vega just happen to have found diamonds during one of his many trips to Brazil and we are all saved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!