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You have a vivid imagination...
Extrapolation is great for theories. It is a poor choice for use in economics though. My oppinion based on fact and experience.
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...businessmen who either don't understand, or don't care what we want of them...
They released 2006’s financials (believe them or not), we can only wait and hope they release 2007’s.
It is (was) not about a buyout for me. Just profit - I'm stuck now and I don't care if they sell, pump, or produce as long as they get the pps up.
I believe you have a better chance to get the answers from the company if you ask questions of the TA, rather that asking the Ihub readers. I don’t believe Aurus will ever answer a question that you ask me. And you wouldn’t believe me if I told you they did anyway.
I have said it before - I believe this is no scam, just a real attempt at success from some foreword thinking businessmen who either don't understand, or don't care what we want of them. I believe that if Aurus remains solvent long enough they will succeed and we will profit. Remaining solvent will be hard to do if the pps stays .015 though.
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You probably aren't going to get what you want from Aurus, but now we all know what it is you want so you can quit telling us. PLEASE!
It would take more than a month for that big an installation in the USA. It will take much longer on Russia time imo.
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how did they get the 2500kg they sold last year?
Placer mining in Siberia.
using what equipment?
Open pit mining I think. I'm working off of memory so I could be wrong.
why no forecast on how much they will sell in H1 08 ?
Maybe because it is pure speculation with placer mines, unless they had a geological study performed on the site(s) very recently. Just a guess, yours is as good as mine.
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c'mon! what else do you want?
Could Bashers affect the PPS of AURC? Here is the answer...
SEC Opens Bear Stearns Stock Manipulation Inquiry (Update1)
By David Scheer
March 18 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. regulators are investigating whether traders illegally sought to force Bear Stearns Cos. shares into a tailspin last week by spreading false information about the firm's finances, two people familiar with the inquiry said.
The Securities and Exchange Commission probe is focusing on whether hedge funds or other investors bet on a drop in the company's shares while disseminating rumors that the New York- based firm was nearing collapse, said the people, who declined to be identified because the inquiry isn't public. The New York Stock Exchange's regulatory arm is also involved in the investigation, the people said.
Speculation about a cash shortage spurred customers and lenders to pull money from Bear Stearns last week, driving the shares down 57 percent between March 7 and March 14. Two days later, the fifth-largest U.S. securities firm was acquired by JPMorgan Chase & Co. for $2 a share. The company's decline coincided with a surge in investor bets that the stock price would plunge. The SEC's probe is unusual because most of the regulator's stock-manipulation cases focus on penny stocks.
``The commission is in uncharted territory,'' said Peter Henning, a former U.S. Justice Department prosecutor who teaches at Wayne State University Law School in Detroit. ``The problem will be separating out the trading from the noise in the market. There was a lot of speculation about Bear.''
Shareholder Losses
SEC spokesman John Nester and NYSE spokesman Scott Peterson declined to comment. Bear Stearns spokesman Russell Sherman didn't return a phone call seeking comment. The SEC is seeking to question traders who profited from options or short sales, one of the people familiar with the probe said.
The case underscores regulators' concern that malicious rumors have the potential to fuel market panic and exacerbate shareholder losses on financial stocks. Bear Stearns had more than $17 billion in cash and salable assets on March 11 when lenders and customers began removing funds, the SEC said in a March 14 statement.
Bear Stearns Chief Executive Officer Alan Schwartz repeatedly sought to stanch the speculation last week. After clients pulled funds and creditors stopped renewing short-term loans, the Federal Reserve orchestrated a bailout on March 14 by providing funding to the company through JPMorgan.
``We have tried to confront and dispel these rumors and parse fact from fiction,'' Schwartz said in a statement that day. ``Nevertheless, amidst this market chatter, our liquidity position in the last 24 hours had significantly deteriorated.''
Piling On
The SEC today said it wouldn't rule out potential inquiries into the company's statements in the 60 days before the takeover by JPMorgan was announced. Though it is ``premature'' to give assurances to JPMorgan about future probes, the SEC's enforcement division would ``favorably take into account the circumstances'' of the acquisition in considering any action, the agency said in a statement.
In the hunt for manipulation, it may be difficult for the SEC to discern who was trading illegally because investors may have been ``piling on'' as speculation spread, said James Cox, a securities law professor at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina.
To prevail in a such a case, the SEC would have to show that a trader intentionally spread false information about Bear Stearns while seeking to profit from its potential affect on the shares, he said.
Bear Stearns is the biggest financial blowup since hedge fund Long-Term Capital Management LP's $3.6 billion rescue almost a decade ago. The losses end 85 years of independence for a firm that survived the Great Depression. In all, banks have reported $195 billion of asset writedowns and credit losses linked to subprime home loans since the start of 2007.
To contact the reporter on this story: David Scheer in Washington at dscheer@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: March 18, 2008 17:16 EDT
Good catch dubble! The bashers would have (and have) shredded any PR from Aurus with this type of discrepancy.
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Aside from 2c's post being about Monimpex and not Aurus, he later alluded to having sold his position as early as Feburary, March or April. So the July post doesn't absolve him of the accusations.
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2create, I have read the information you have provided. I can find nothing that indicates that an LLC cannot also be a JSC. Can you point me to somthing that declares an LLC and a JSC to be mutually exclusive?
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BUDDYRICH, maybe we should email the UN to ask if Russia has the rights to be a sovereign nation too. Just to be sure…
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It could be first hand verbal phone conversation if you call your self. Then since you were part of the conversation it is no longer just hearsay, and you can us it in your testimony against Aurus or whatever. You can even call from a cell phone, tell him so. Then record the call and argue later that the tape should be allowed in court because he knew it was a cell phone and shouldn’t have expected any privacy. Then you’d really have him! But then again, if you aren’t going to believe the answer maybe you shouldn’t ask the question. Yes… that seems easier.
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Good morning Cabroncita!
It appears that Aurus has been truthful about the content of the cinders and the expected recovery rate of gold (despite the way they told us). Now if they can (or have) execute the business plan, and prove it, this pig of a stock may turn around.
http://www.auruscorp.com//Perform.pdf
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Not admitted for... one must embrace the CM in one's self and then (and only then) others will accept it.
I have admitted to both!
Interesting information… However not pertinent.
I was traveling last week and didn't get a chance to check in here. Sunday I noticed the translated original geological report was posted on the Aurus web site.
What have I missed? I haven't seen any bashing or praise of the geological report. What is the general sentiment about the report?
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That's all I started with also.
I would be happy with that right now!
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Thanks DOS for confirming your conversation with 2create, as he asked you.
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sometimes_right, is there any benefit for joining this group of Long investors that REALLY KNOW each other? Why wasn't I aware of this special group?
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mrditbme,
The specific legal definition of Fraud varies by legal jurisdiction, but in general, fraud is the crime or offense of deliberately deceiving another in order to damage them – usually, to obtain property or services unjustly.
My point is, Aurus may not have had intent to damage investors in any way. Possibly Aurus knows that the “so called forged” documents represent the actual facts, and therefore are not intended to damage investors, but help investors by providing truthful information. In some jurisdictions forging documents does not constitute fraud, as in the above scenario.
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razorpockets, it depends on whether Aurus owned what they said they owned when they said they owned it. Loosing our assets may not be illegal (depends on circumstances) but releasing a statement claiming ownership when if fact they do not own the said property most likely is illegal. In this example, it comes down to a paperwork trail which possibly can be manufactured in retrospect to fit the need. There is an example that comes to mind... never mind.
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"Most" doesn't work though, all nine are required. I (and many others) bought shares before they PRd any gold shipments which doesn't help my case any.
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If in fact Aurus posted fraudulent documents (assuming it is illegal), you still have to prove that they posted fraudulent documents and prove it is the cause of your loss. The latter may be the more difficult of the two.
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DOS, I have the "right" to take you to court for your last post and your next post. That doesn't mean there is a winnable case against you (or Aurus). And even if there is a winnable case on some basis, I would have to prove that I suffered monetary loss due to the same basis or there will be no award of moneys. So if you invested in Aurus and lost money but can’t prove you invested because of Aurus’s culpable activity, or prove you lost money because of Aurus’s culpable activity, there will be no award of moneys (even if you win the case).
My opinion is that it will be nearly impossible to meet the standards of proof required for an award. Running a company like you are Bozo the Clown is not illegal as far as I know.
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Yes folks! MikeJones2 will be here all week!
LOL! Have I seen you on Comedy Central?
Chuck can come out of retirement for Delta Force like Sylvester Stallone did for Rocky and Rambo. Maybe we can get both of them to find and return our share value.
Party, are you refering to the Private Equity Placement Offering (post #82328) when you say "If I would have paid the 2 million to Dovgan, 600k would have went to guess who?" My guess is Paul Ditter... Am I correct?
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STRONGUS, I'm sure THAT answered your question... didn't it? LOL
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2create, if this is true, why not call them out as they have you? That will clear this up. Did these "trusted" longs reiterate your oppinions on this board at such time?
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2create, I do not intentionally misrepresent your posts and timelines. But DD, when you have demonstrated your facts to be an ever-changing moving target without a prior attainable storyline (plan) having been executed properly, has proven to be a challenge.
I am sorry for the inconvenience of the hard to answer questions, but it difficult to hit a moving target. Also, any DD performed on/by you seems to have a very short expiration date. Example: See message #92773 which you posted 2/14/2008, and message #92798 which you posted 2/14/2008, this one is very clear - “Abbam all gone about year ago eom”. Then, when strongus called you out (A deleted message as was your original message where you wrote to Ibreken), your timeline changes via message #92838 which you posted again on 2/14/2008. Again a very clear message. Message #92838 posted on 2/14/2008 where you write “And furthermore I said to Ibreken 'about' a year ago”. But now in your answers to me in message #95343 on 3/02/2008 you say “not until the very end of June”. That is very much closer to ½ a year ago. So it seems about 12 months in your timeline has been reduced to just over 7 months in only 16 days.
Again if you wish to explain the discrepancy in your timeline with transparency I would appreciate evaluating your response.
But we love you anyway.
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benzdealeror2, I have always know why. If you recall I defended your position before.
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I only care because his misinformation presented with high credibility can damage Aurus.
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The following was posted by 2c in the month of MAY. After he now says he sold his shares because he determined the buyout would't go through. MODs may delete this post but it is not a personal attack. I am only submitting evidence that the poster in question is fallible (not dishonest). It is important that the all possible investors in Aurus realize this. Many here seem to think his oppinions are facts.
Posted by: 2create
In reply to: mdavid40 who wrote msg# 45210 Date:5/1/2007 8:12:07 PM
Post #of 45263
Agreed Mdavid40!.No-Reasons ToSell-below-current Cash-Offer
...accepted, Counter-Accepted, Rejected-and-Another-Accepted, Rejected-and-Revenues-Earnings-and-Production-Update/Forecasts-with-SEC-Filings...
---> Either way and for all of the above Reasons = No reason (for retail investors) to Sell (at these virtualy-free PPS levels)! ;)