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There are indeed some red flags that need to be removed before new investors jump in. Transparency is what is needed now.
Ally & RDG, you are both in CPRK for a while.
What I am not getting is the whole PR thing here. This looks like they are advertising for a movie or so. It just disturbs me a bit that they are concentrating on such things and I have no clear idea what they want to get with it. I am doubtful that they will attract a major investor with these shows...
I am simply not getting it.
I am still on the sidelines for this one and have followed the recent discussions and understand both sides. Both sides have good points and that's why I am on the sideline.
First of all, this is a pink. Full stop. Unless CPRK goes into OB-status or full reporting status, they don't have to tell you anything. Now, if this is because they are hiding something or fully busy with the execution of the plan to get the mine up and running we don't know. That's why zippo's visit is crucial in my view.
It's as with every stock. You invested and you like what you see or you don't. I have the feeling that many people are too far down to sell right now. So keep the shares or sell anyway. I still own a lot of ACMG shares that for 99% is a scam. I had the chance to get out with a gain when things looked good. I didn't. I had several chances to get out with a loss...obviously the longer I waited the higher the loss. Now I am sitting on shares with a value of $0.0025 and have not sold any. That's life. It was my decision and my fault. I was scammed.
So, for any pink, I hope nobody has invested more money than they can afford to lose. Really, don't ever do it. For CPRK holders the waiting game is on. Speculation does not bring you anywhere. Either you feel comfortable or you sell.
The PPS is not making me happy... They really need another big contract soon. Very soon. Very disappointing so far!!
Thanks Zippo. I am very interested in your findings and please don't forget to take some pictures. If you can "interview" somebody on the site, well this would be great! Thanks already!
We need to have some fun from time to time, don't we??
It's very quiet right now on CPRK. I guess the big depression from the miserable quarterly that GE presented is killing everybody. Just 1 of my stocks is green today.
Well, I hope zippo can bring some news soon.
By the way, is the 2nd picture from left on CPRK's homepage new? Looks impressive...
And I am not working for them either ...unless, of course they have a subsidiary or a mine in Europe as well... LOL
Thanks zippo. Appreciate any input you can give.
Allow me to ask if you are close to someone of CPRK or had contact with them recently as you mentioned the financing thing. As for me, I will decide if I sell something to buy 1-2 pinkies during next week. So, am still on the sidelines for now, but CPRK is still on my radar.
I promised not to post until I buy shares, but allow me to congratulate you all! This is what I call a PR that has substance! Well done and you all deserved it!
...off I go again. Bye
I now found the message that I was referring to regarding the potential visit of one of the ihubers. It was zippo1094, but I thought he said he was going there mid April, but in his message he wrote mid to end April. Zippo, any news on the date you plan to go there? Some pictures that you take while being there and that are not on the homepage would obviously be appreciated. Thanks.
It would be easier to recognise new photos if they were posting the latest ones at the end and not in between the others. This is a bit confusing and you either have to learn by heart which pictures were on already or you have to print them. So, if somebody has a contact to in the company, please propose this to them.
Thanks for your answer Ally. So I assume the pictures are really new then. Thought I may have missed them last time I checked.
Have a good day too. By the way, who are you on the picture of your signature??
I haven't checked CPRK's homepage for couple of days. As I did now, am I right in saying that there was the one or two (not many) new photos that show progress on the "hall" or whatever building this is? Anybody confirming this?
I don't remember exactly who answered to one of my posts when I asked if somebody was going to visit the site, but there was definetely somebody who said he/she would go there around mid April. Did this already happen? This at least would give us a heads up in a period without any further news to be discussed. Thanks a lot.
Well, things will take care of themselves. I'll be watching and following things - whatever way they go, unless I am invested in AQUI, then of course I prefer 1 direction only.
I feel with you and what you said about the hard earned money and wise investments. I myself did make some investment mistakes, so I know what is at stake. And NO, I did not say anything against AQUI with this sentence, just a general point. NO bashing, nothing. Seriously. I swear.
My last post on this board - unless I buy shares. Good luck to you sir and all the others. Good bye.
Fair and valid point. As I said, lots of DD was done and many still believe in it. I am neutral for the time being. It's a waiting game for me and I want to see how things evolve. Then I might be in or not.
It's just that people are accused of being bashers as they have some doubts and question certain things. On pinks I consider it almost equal dangerous to trust bashers or pumpers. Trust yourself and do DD. That's all.
..and pay attention to the pumpers too... Do your own DD and just try to get from this message board what you consider true. People have done a lot of DD, so it all goes down to you believing in one side or the other... Good luck anyway
If no news by end of the week it might go below $.05. As other posters are indicating, that somebody of the company is still in Asia it might well be, that there is another contract to be announced. I assume they planned their trip well in terms of meeting several potential customers.
I don't think I will jump in this week though.
Any bets on where the pps will be at the end of today? Or a PR coming today? I am still waiting for the "entry ticket"...
Crazy day to see. Volume about 2x normal. Even I wouldn't have expected the drop today. Was this 0.45 really a mistake or did it happen? How can I see if it was a mistake? Thanks.
Agree with you. I assume they needed them for paying some bills. I really hope they are not issuing all those shares, but only a strict minimum...
Indeed, if you bought at the right moment and sell at the right moment there is quite something to gain.
Am still having CPRK on my radar screen. Any news related to O/S or on the construction front? Am still waiting for more clarity before I jump in.
Pretty volatile day today! PPS is jumping into all different directions!
Do you see now why I am "sceptical"?? Official e-mail address of a multi billion $ company that bounces back saying things like "space full"? The second company - also big - had about 700 visitors before the big hype of the AQUI's started?
This is what avoids me from investing for now. Nothing else.
Same message that I got.
OK, here's the deal:
I sent out 2 e-mails end last week:
1) Asking Lianhua about confirmation of AQUI's PR. So far no response
2) Sent 2 mails to Wolong onto their mail address shown on the homepage. Both bounced back after about 1 day. Found another e-mail address for them and sent end last week a mail to this address, no answer so far. Asking also about confirmation of AQUI's PR.
That's what I am waiting for. I recommend not everybody to send e-mails now as they most likely won't answer then. So, as soon as I have news, I will post it. Trust me on this one. I was constantly saying I want confirmation from "the other party" and that's exactly what I am working on.
If you get this confirmed, then you are my hero of the week! Please get it onto the Lianhua homepage! Thanks a lot.
Well, I agree that there has not been a huge volume sell off today and I also might agree with Thommygun on the O/S. I was just pointing out some "ideas" why the pps goes down - despite the recent news which were good - no doubt.
Again, I don't want to convince anybody either to buy or sell. You are all old enough, it's your money and you do with it what you want. Furthermore I have not been very successful on pinkies and if a pinkie wants to scam you, it can do it. They don't have to report to anybody and most CEO's get away as the companies are too small to get the SEC or anybody following them.
So, do with my thoughts whatever you want. Ignore me, think about it, whatever. I just wanted to share my view on this forum - and I guess that's what a forum is good for. Hear all different views, hear about other's experiences, learn sometimes (as for example I am not a chartist at all), etc. It's a free community and I like Ihub a lot and as long as we are on topic and following the terms of Ihub, then we are all fine.
No offense directed at anybody from my side and so far I have no proof for calling AQUI a scam. None at all.
Why? Why is the pps going down? Either some people are disappointed with what they see from the company/pr's, somebody sells shares as he/she knows something will not go well, some people are overinvested and need the money, some people may believe it is a scam, the company is increasing the O/S, etc. There are always reason to sell.
I for one believe it has something to do with the recent pr's. Maybe it's coupled to the CEO stepping down without any explanation why? I don't know. Just having owned, or better still owning a pinkie that unfortunately turned out to be a scam and that had similar pr's issued has given me and some others on this board a lesson.
When I said before I went to far with calling AQUI a scam, I really mean I went too far because some of the people that were also invested in the other company are also here and they are respected people and I am sure they wouldn't easily make "the same mistake twice". Still, I prefer to have confirmation, that's all. That's my lesson learnt.
Leigh01, thanks for your words. Maybe I went a bit too far. Well, I will wait this out and if there is more positive news I will be with you. But only on news that can be confirmed by the "other party". I don't trust any pinkie on their own PR's that are not or cannot be verified with their partner they are going to do business with. Even if it's on Fox News or whatever. For me, only the other party counts. And if that company isn't another pinkie, but a billion dollar company, then wonderful!
I know Sentinel, I know. However, I posted several times: none of these PR's are found on the Wolong or the Lianhua homepage. Of course, such big companies don't have to publish news of cooperation with small companies, but still, why not? In the end they want to sell water in China and therefore, why not showing on their homepage that they are going to do this? It really looks similar to our other experience with M&G Group, BHL, you name it...
Fully agree. PPS will fall further. Maybe a scam??
OMG, today's pps is not looking very good. Have I missed any (negative) news??? I am surprised about this drop if there isn't any substantial news/change to a couple of days ago.
...and I checked now again: more than 5'500 visitors! Isn't this great? Aquagoldies everywhere!
You cannot find anything on the Wolong homepage either... Have you paid notice to how many visitors the Lianhua homepage had? Last Thurdsay or Friday it was around 700, yesterday when I checked it was at more than 1'400... For such a large company they have very few visitors...and I guess the new 700 were all Aquagoldies...
So, I would be careful for now...
Why is this company giving out information via phone calls or e-mails to some people only? Can this be seen as insider info as some infos are shared before the open public receives it?? Is this legal?
Me too, I want to see a proof that this thing can work.
Aquamuscle, thanks for the example of the Fidji water. Interesting.
Well, time will tell I guess. Still on the sidelines for now.
Maybe, but again, how much of the Chinese population can buy this at the prices AQUI needs to get to reach their healthy margins? What are healthy margins?
I have not done a comparison between income of somebody from Canada and somebody from China. But be assured, the difference is huge.
I don't want to spoil the party here, but I prefer looking at all facts. In my view, this water can only be sold to the higher incomes in China. And this is a very low number of people until I see numbers that are different.
No $ mentioned and no "projection" yet. This is normal. Chinese company doing distribution but how much? Can the average Chinese person buy this mineral water? Don't forget, it comes from Canada, has to be shipped to China and then distributed. This is expensive. So what happens to AQUI's margin? Do they have to sell for very low prices?
...even a billion $ company like Wolong cannot change this... In the end it's all about money and I believe they first have to show real revenue and good margins. You can sell a billion bottles - if you don't make profit, it's not worth anything... This at least is one of my major concerns and why I haven't bought this stock yet...
Nice news today!
And I will be jumping with them! Until then the PPS will slowly be eroding and giving a great entrance point. I wait for low 6's then I will join the party.
I do have to admit that I didn't expect any PR yesterday, so I was completely wrong. Maybe I am wrong today again and there is the long awaited PR with some nice $$$$'s and precise details coming. Well, then my bad and great for everybody who is already invested. In any case, I wish you all that the desired PR is coming and that this one takes off as you dream it! I really mean it.