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WOW !!
Thats Awsome ! Thanks
Well, as long as we only have to give up the enjoyment of a tax haven, then I guess thats OK
I wasn't trying to gey out of paying Uncle Sam. lol
I guess the next question would be - If a longs shares are outside of a retirement acct. , then how could they ENJOY a tax haven??
Great post !!
I think your right about the shares getting harder to get!
Last 15min. of fridays closing bell, I was on the ask trying to test a BUY-100,000 order, with Etrade , and no fill!!
Did anyone else have problems?
$GODNWV
You said " When it's all said and done, retirement accounts will probably forfeit the anonimity of the foundation.
I'm asking, is this good or bad for longs on PNMS ?
If it is good or bad, then would a USA law have to change or be added in order to take the maybe out of it and replacing that with GREAT for longs on PNMS !!
Exspecially for present and future Retirement accounts holding PNMS
4GODNWV
Does that mean when it's all said and done, a retirement account may be switching to not being known by the foundation ?
Would a USA law have to be changed or written, in order for it to be a good thing for any long on this PNMS ?
Why do you think these two things happened so close together? the new law went into effect on 01/11/2007 and before a week was up, we were up and running?
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E-Mail received from Pedro Fiol (translated with Alta Vista below)
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Presidential impulse to plan of "desburocratización" Panama sets out to surpass competitiveness of Costa Rica Government eliminated previous proceedings for installation of businesses and companies Investors and citizenship can make 2,200 proceedings by means of Internet
Carlos A. Villalobos
cvilla@nacion.com
City of Panama. This country decided year ago and means to always bury for the troublesome proceedings in the public institutions, to use the technology to even facilitate the processes and, to eliminate the previous permissions that were necessary to open a new business. Here they know clearly the goal. Aside from making a Government "more near" the citizens, their authorities try to surpass to Costa Rica in the measurements of competitiveness in the Latin American region. Thus it confirmed to the Nation the Secretary of the Innovation of the Panamanian government, Gaspar Tarté, the right hand of president Martín Torrijos in the subject.
Tarté leads the change in Panama, and nondoubt in recognizing that they hope to happen of third since they occupied in the last measurement of competitiveness in Latin America, to the second since at the moment Costa Rica occupies, after Chile. The measurement carries out every year World-wide the Economic Forum. With that jump, Panama looks for to be located like one of the countries with greater attraction for the foreign investment and tourism.
They even glide to approach the 1.6 million tourists whom Costa Rica in the 2006 received. Decided. According to Germa'n Tarté, with the elimination of the paper and the troublesome proceedings that the governments of the region characterize, Panama already has obtained that their citizens can make near 2,200 managements by Internet. From obtaining or renewing their license to lead, to the most detailed customs proceedings is in line.
Also the Congress approved the 11 of January the law that makes agile the opening of companies. The legislation it eliminates all the previous process of request of permissions to open to companies or businesses, in all the involved institutions. By means of a notification by Internet, the industralist it is committed to fulfill the established requirements and notifies to the organizations the opening of his project. The forced ones are the institutions to visit each company to corroborate that it fulfills the requirements.
"That will allow that the investors do not die in the attempt before the multiple previous proceedings that before they had to do. That if, the sanctions by breaches are severe ", explained Tarté. Also by means of legal reforms, the Government changed the processes of hiring with the State in which, for example, all the purchases can be followed by Internet. Also he established a maximum term of five days to solve the appeals that the companies make after an awarding.
Note. With this series of changes still in process, Panama shows a different face already. The most visible symptom is the impulse in the construction, mainly of buildings of apartments, offices and hotels. According to the Panamanian Camera of the Construction (ABLE), in the 2006 $1,200 million were reversed.
The Financial Capital newspaper revealed that Panama "is seen like one of the five better places of the world to live, by its cost of life and security". Country "is looking for to attract pensioners of the United States, Canada and Europe, which they are taking advantage of the advantages that appear with the currency exchange of euro to the dollar", indicates the publication financial. According to the Panamanian Institute of Turismo (IPAT), in the 2006 32 tourist projects with investments by $710 million began here.
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1) Letter from Pedro Borges Fiol, MBA. President, (MMVII) PANAMERSA
Effective 17th January 2007, Pan America Sociedad Anonima (MMVII) PANAMERSA, a Panamanian Corporation, will become the operating unit for all PANAMERSA legal entities, united in the common goal of promoting for profit the commercial integration of Latin America into the economic development of Pan America (the Western Hemisphere) and the rest of the world, while protecting our Forests, Flora, Fauna & Water resources.
E-Mail received from Pedro Borges:
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Good morning and God bless you all,
I am unable to write directly so I am using a contact in America II to send this email. I need to clarify an issue brought to my attention by the monitors. Please post this as follows:
1. I have been advised by phone of certain emails that have been sent to my attention at pborges@panamersa.com. I would like to tell you all that soon certain information that you have requested will be delivered.
2. The relationship between Panamersa and a Mr. Jerry O'Steen is a personal one.
3. The gold reserved that has been referred to by Mike Terell,the CEO of Panamersa Corporation, are located in a country in the America IV region. This is a project of Fundacion Pan America and its operating unit Pan America Sociadad Anonima (MMVII).
4. I only want to ask you to stand by until PR's regarding gold reserves are made.
5. Please do not speculate with the unknown. It is very bad for the image of your company Panamersa Corporation registered in the state of Nevada and HQ in Dallas, Texas.
After Sunday the 25th I will be able to communicate in a normal basis. Please allow your President and CEO of Panamersa Mike Terrell do his work.
Thank you for your attention Panamericans,
Pedro Borges Fiol
Foundacion Panamerica
First of all, you don't have to do anything with your certs until more of the plan is revealed and you see that the new trading platform is up and running !
AS to why MT won't just pay you .04 per share right now: Are you crazy ! That would be very stupid ! when you could just let the market do it for you! we'll see , won't we?
If your so scared that this is a scam , then either sale your shares and get out, while you still can , or if you are not in yet , then just watch & wait - But if your wrong and wait to long , good luck on getting in cheap!
All you really seem to be saying is that this whole concept is not even possible, Well I guess I'm saying that there is a chance that it is possible!
From MT's blog :
All the assets you deposit into the Fundacion which may be in cash, gold, PDRs, stock, etc are stored or deposited into the HSBC Bank in Panama I believe HSBC is the second largest bank in the world.
PUZZLED
Puzzle directions:
1) open box and spread out all the pieces on a flat , open surface , then seperate all pieces into groups , Start with all the edge and corners first, then work you way in towards the center useing groups of similer color , size and shape. The more of the picture you reveal , the easier it gets ! Don't give up !Don't force pieces together! Keep focusing on the pieces that you have found to connect to other pieces.Only some people can do this, so its up to you whether or not you have the patients , time , or knowledge to complete this puzzle!
I think this stock has alot of people Puzzled !
MT has put only the outside pieces together , so it's soon time for the corners and inside pieces to be connected
The only thing about a puzzle that I don't like is, when you've put all that time & effort into it and you find out that some of the pieces are missing !
Remember -- Keep focusing on the pieces that we have found that connect and stop listening to people that want you to get confused and just give up!!
I hope all of this puzzle is completed soon !!
I just hope and pray , MT puts all the pieces in the box!
This is all JIMHO
"PLACE YOU BETS ON THE TABLE"
Even if all the certs were pulled and turned into PDR's , that would mean that there would only be 560,000 ( 5.6b. a/s ) PDR's to trade ! With almost half of the origional investors paying $ 400.00 per PDR ! Thats why I believe I'm buying some chips to throw down on this play! One chip costs $ 14.00
When and If , we see the new trading platform , and how it all works, I think that will show everyone all they need to see!
If some how, we can pull our minds out of the details , or lack of details , and try and look at the bigger picture!!
FACT: This is a pinksheet gamble , not a blue chip investment , its a startup company !
FACT: The possible pay out has just been increased! Just from the coming MOMO alone, not even counting what the stock buy back , cert recall , confirmation of cash , clarity on PDR's and watching the new trading platform operate, final release of Divi's , Short squeeze , Release of this Q's profits , when Atrade starts buying again , will do to the pps
Fact: MT & the gang want your certs ( for a pretty good profit) or they are going to buy them on the open market ASAP to get them while there cheap. This could be the hold up in releasing all of the facts.IMO
FACT: The fear mongers will be out in force , to try and get your cheap shares!! You will need balls of steel, to make it
through all of the ups and downs.Hold'em for a big pay out soon!
I'm not even worried about the cert thing! I'm just here to ride this thing up to where it should be and then cash out!
At least play the MOMO, it's going to be fun!!!
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MT writes:
So shareholders I am not saying it is now or never. I am saying this is where we are going. I am not saying to get the guarantee you have to go now. I am saying take your time ask questions see how the software works. If you believe you can make a better income in the present system, then stay. But when you see PDRs trading with a higher pps day in and day out and night in and night out and weekends too. It will start to make sense. It will not be long until beneficiaries from all over the world will be buying PDRs.
I’d love to see all of our shareholders be in that run with no one manipulating the price
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So lets say in a week or two the PDR's start trading online. The first question ? How much are they trading for? If they start them out based on the current pps then that would be ( 10,000 shares per PDR ) thats $14.00 per PDR as of now. IF you wanted to test the system , then you would purchase a few PDR's and then set back and watch . Now ,If you were one of the origional investors who paid $400.00 per PDR , how long would you wait to average down your cost at that price? I don't see to many investors selling out at that price! We'll see?
The price might start at $300.00 -$400.00 per PDR!! So , lets say you sell your test PDR's and see just how it all cashes out and returns back to your bank account. If all went well and you saw for yourself that it is working and your making money ,then I think this type of trading will EXSPLODE!!! then everyone would be pulling there certs and trading them in for PDR's . For those that still don't want to pull certs , it would still be a monster profit , because the pps would most likely shoot up too !!
Finally , back to a true system of trading on supply and demand, !!!! I'm pretty sure the roots of trading goes back to a true system, it was in Holland , selling tulips!!
this is all IMHO
Good post---I second that,, Come on MT , you owe us, remember!
HEY , THE KOOLAIDS GOOD , BUT WE CAN'T LIVE ON IT FOREVER !!
THE PARTY IS GETTING RESTLESS AND WE WANT YOU , MT , TO SPIKE OUR PUNCH!! LOL
A PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS !! OH , I'M SORRY , YOU ONLY HAVE 1/7th OF A PENNY ! SORRY , YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH!! LOL
All kidding aside , there will be more info. coming soon!IMHO
BUT , HEY I'M THIRSTY AND THIS KOOLAID IS GOOD!! I LIKE THE TROPICIAL PUNCH FLAVOR!!
All I can say is " What do you exspect for 1/7th of a penney per share" ? ($15.00 per PDR ) Maybe your just playing in the wrong ball park!
Hey, I'm not happy about all the stalling going on either!!There are other stocks out there that fill their followers in better on what the company is upto, but they cost alot more and they could be a scam also(enron, worldcom to name a few)
It's only money!!
There is no middle road on this stock, its all or nothing!!
Time will tell
Oh yea, well then exsplain to me how my order to purchase 1mil at .0015 didn't go through- I put the order in at 3:44 est
But in order to have a trading platform with funds changing hands from all over the world, 24/7 online access, You would think the software for tradeing would have to be tied into some sort of buisiness deal
Hey , good one !- lol
I noticed ol Dez had to start retracting his claims when useing big names like Ford & GM . On the other hand , MT hasn't had to do that yet and he's making claims of dealings with the the 2nd largest bank in the world!
Sorry to hear about your losses
I'm glad to see that the SEC is watching, and I to , hope they nail him for what he's done!
But my question is this : Is the SEC/GOV more concerned about a company that lies about how many safes or cyber keys that they have sold OR a company that lies about another Country and their leaders . At the same time sign over the canal, and then send them $$$$ to make it twice as wide??
It' a wait and see kinda thing!
It's really hard to believe that the SEC would shut down a cyber key salesman that over pumps his company , But lets a company like this trade. I mean , with all the high profile people involved in the Panama Exsp. , I think that It would have been halted by now! -- anyone?
I pray to GOD , it is !!!
Man , how about seeing clear , first thing in the morning -SLAPP -
I was trying to figure out why you were so mad ? I found out!
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Repost
Posted by: seeclear
In reply to: None Date:3/21/2007 7:29:27 AM
Post #of 54527
Pretty lame board.. mostly lemming leaders or lemmings..looks like flippers have total control...and they just want back in 'cheap' ...Good quality posts of the past completely disregarded...I was gone all day and was hoping that "Maybe" some one would have taken a little time to follow up with HSBC ..nope...to good a lead to follow I guess ...sure wouldn't do the flippers no good ....watching folks follow unconfirmed blithering...totally ignoring the confirmed 'dd' of the association of Panamersa with extremely well known and highest of ranking officials in the Panamanian Government (let me guess they're just friggin foreigners). Confirmed ties to parties directly related to the inner workings of Panama and their involvement with the expansion of the Canal (ever see a pink with these connections before ..."not")...Ignoring the well publicised evolution of pdr's and the ingenuity of connecting them in the future to the well known monetary valuations attached....and Implicating MT to an unconfirmed cheesy affiliation by a close area code .... and more.. do you think all those aforementioned high ranking officials are all just letting their hard earned reputations being used to promote a 'scammy' pink sheet stock that trades for less than a penny...'SHAKE YOUR FRIGGIN HEADS'.....Do you think MT would risk being shot (seriously) as we tie the president of the country into PNMS. Everybody forgot just how difficult it was in the first place to understand just what Panamersa is!!!! Unfortunately I noticed a whole lot of people did not do enough of their own 'dd' and relied a lot just to float on this board...now when it should count to understand what you have put your money into you do not know because a bunch of criminal like bottom feeders have taken advantage of the lack of that 'dd' and have royally pussy whipped 'lemmingville'...Think more...no indicated dilution.. what would PMNS be doing if they are not doing standard scammy pinky dilution procedure...they certainly are not making money. Do you "REALLY" think a 'scammy' pink would make an error like accelerating the partial AF's when the posts on this board guaranteed that we could have been sucked in ... hook, line, and sinker into a MASSIVE MAY 15TH Run!!! No scammy pink would have made that mistake! Why on earth would a whole lot of you hammer a good man who is trying to do a tough job (100 times harder than most of the no nothings) on this board could inkle to achieve!! You slam a guy for trying to give to the investor a more of a friendly open door policy and in the process just shows us he is human like you and I! Assuming in what we know to be an enormous undertaking that things will all work like clockwork...makes a whole lot of you look like 'Big Time Clowns'!! Lastly who on earth could have put out such an elaborate undertaking and get this far with out finding a "REAL" hole in it..."not...again" So many of you on this board just "so suck" and I wish you all a wonderful long term vacation on a beautiful paradise Island with all you favorite Alcoholic beverages and Plenty of Viagra and "NO WOMEN" of course which I'm sure will be no problem to you! "Bleccch" I am outta' here. SC.
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***Be Cool - Be Calm - Be Casual - Be Careful Out There!***
Yea, It's a gamble alright , but I've made more money running toward fear than running from it!!
I bought my lotto ticket if it is!!
hey , how much is a ticket ? ( PDR ) - $17.00
and 24,7 - sounds like trader Heaven
See ya on the boat !!!!!
OH , I get it , answer a question with another QUESTION
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION : YOUR HERE DEAR!!!
thank-you
So , because you work for the GOV. , let me ask ya , Why would our SEC not care enough to check out the ####1 pinksheet play????????
THERE'S A TIME TO HOLD'EM AND A TIME TO FOLD'EM !!!! MT's a Texan , come ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO YOUR NOT!!
DON'Y YA THINK MT HAS HAD HIS CHECK ?
AMEN!!!!
YES , AND THANKS FOR THE 14'S----LIFE IS GOOD!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !!!!!!!!!!!(I'M COUNTING YOUR WEALTH AS WE SPEAK )
LET ME BUY SOME MORE GOOGLE , BEFORE , WHEN THEY WORKED OUT OF THE GARAGE !!!!!
HEA , WOULD YOU LIKE'A TICKET
NOT YEEEETTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!