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Nice work and thanks for stepping up wolf. =D
With all this we are digging up from S&F holdings to the new questions on Simple cork...how on earth is this ticker still #6 on the breakout board?
Unless downward breakouts apply, we are owning the downward trend.
Perfect, clarification was all I was going for =D
Simple Cork is going to dwarf the Easy Grinder in profits. Hurry up with the darn cork already. Lets get this party started and this time maybe we will get invited to it....obviously the top guys in the company are partying already!
The smart cork website looks like it was made by the same person that made simple corks website
SMART CORK, INC.
http://smartcork.com/
More Simple Cork Facts:
Confirmed Bill, here is the Patent for Simple Cork
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20170021977.pdf
I will start the day off with this question.
What do we know about Simple Cork?
Here are the 3 names that come aboard with this company:
ARIK COHEN, SHALOM OHAYON, and AVI SIMHON
Furthermore, VPOR links Simple Cork in this order:
Names we know
Yaniv Nahon: President and Treasurer
Jorge Schcolnik: CFO and Vice President
Dror Svorai: Director
New names and how they tie in to VPOR
Arik Cohen: Director and Secretary
was/is associated with: Vapor Group, Inc., Simple Cork, Inc., and Newgen Concepts, Inc.(which is now questioned to be S&F holdings in Wyoming)
Avi Simhon: Director
was/is associated with: Vapor Group, Inc., Simple Cork, Inc., and Newgen Concepts, Inc.(which is now questioned to be S&F holdings in Wyoming)
Shalom Ohayon: Vice President
was/is associated with: Vapor Group, Inc. and Simple Cork, Inc.
Seems these names have been tied to the company for a while... use your own DD here...
I am in the same boat. I am super pumped for simple cork! We just need honest business practices to take place and everyone wins. I mean everyone, from low postilion share holders to the top of the chain where our guy Yaniv is. A fact in life I am learning here is...common sense....isn't so common anymore.
All right everyone, we had our day. Lets all chill out a little bit. As shareholders it is very obvious some of us have done our homework. It should of never came to this or had to go this far.
Lately the full disclosure we want is another PR review for Dror's easy grinder.
I am not sure myself to be honest. With billions of shares around I find it hard to believe the number is exactly the same after 2 months. We trade shares in the millions every business day on this ticker.
I just found something that raised an eyebrow. The chances of this are extremely low. On june 30th 2017 the number of outstanding shares was 5,073,788,021. (on page one under 3) Security information)
source: https://www.otcmarkets.com/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=177330
On the the OTC martkets website, considered verified outstanding shares is
5,073,788,021 as of Aug 31, 2017.
source: https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/VPOR/profile
What are the chances of this? Are they not reporting the real number of shares outstanding?
I will remind you the order numbers from the easy grinder website where tampered with as well. I had an order number in the the low 40,000 range, and about a month later it was 600,000 something... Nothing to back up the 600,000 order numbers if they were in order going up 1 number on each sale.
Answering this neutral and honest:
As an owner of an easy grinder it is honestly a great product. Simple cork is the new product that is suppose to be out this year and it is brilliant.
Problem we have is: Fake shell companies holding money off the books and a CFO that can't get the financials right or signed off by an auditor.
The story of VPOR right now is: Great products, terrible ethics, and questionable management.
Adding months of research and frustration and giving my honest opinion:
The hardest part is normally creating a great product. With out a great product you can have a fortune 500 company staff of experts and you still might not make a dime. Instead of listing occurrences about bad ethics and bad management, I will go back a few months and post this PR. You can see where we are now with the given expectations and access your own DD to it.
PR source:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/vapor-group-inc-vpor-starts-shipping-customer-orders-for-easy-grindertm-as-revenues-build-announces-major-social-media-campaign-2017-06-06
We got $0.46 to shut us up, can I get $0.50?
Stewy approves this message!
confirmed, price just went up again. $0.30 a share to shut us up!
(relax, new running joke on this board)
(auctioneer) I got $0.30, can we get $0.35?
We know he reads the board, He has even posted Ihub messages on his twitter before. I am going to use this reference:
This isn't like playing city street basket ball where your pride is on the line not to call foul when it was a flagellant foul.
This is real money and it shouldn't be treated like a game.
When I invested here it was for the future of Simple Cork. It is still an upcoming product and I can say as a shareholder my investment was to a company VPOR actually owns.
Exactly, everyone wins when they pay us to go away.... it will even make their own shares worth more and even they can take a profit....
$0.25 a share huh? Ya that will shut them up!
SF Holdings next move is to officially merge with VPOR with Yaniv as managing director, and VPOR shareholders will be forking out either more cash in form of debt, or issue another class of preferred (series C) to buy Dror's billions of preferred shares that come off restriction in October...either way -- they win!
I will jump right to my end game thought here. Right now most of us are mad about the fallout of the million questions we have about the Easy Grinder which is EZ Grinder INC. owned by Dror.
I bought into VPOR for Simple Cork which is owned by VPOR. None of the silliness and filibuster question apply to simple cork at the moment.
Am I upset about what is going on with the Easy Grinder....heck ya I am. Nothing but crap going on with this product. In the honest back of my mind Yaniv is left with Dror's mess and he is taking the heat for it. With yaniv as the head guy at VPOR, it will be in his best interest to separate his reputation as far as possible from Dror's influence.
The finding of S&F holdings based out of Wyoming seems questionable... although seeing Yaniv's condo in Florida is on the market maybe Yaniv is getting away from his problem, the easy grinder mess and getting himself out of Florida.
I personally have put facts up in a negative manor towards VPOR. Facts I remind you with links to back them up. All fair play to me. I am cautious and honestly a little mad how things are going with VPOR, but Yaniv still deserves a chance to fix the mess from Q2. I remind you he has had only a few months to realize how deep this easy grinder mess got.
I know a few members will jump at this saying they got a bunch of chances already. Dror has gotten his chances and pissed on everyone. Yaniv has only had a few months and to be fair we have been on full attack. 1 month remains until the close of Q3. I will be waiting to see how this pans out.
A number of us are all fired up and know we have been mislead and lied to. Now... the important question:
How do we win as shareholders in any scenario?
All scenario's seem to conclude, we lose everything we invested to win and protect others from this mess. It seems like we are trapped in a perfect crime and the bad guys keep winning.
Respectfully juice, I wasn't implying you're running I was implying someone else that is selling their property might be. A lot of speculation is going on and I am not trying to use names unless I find it 100% necessary.
If some members were premium I could explain what I'm speculating further without it being taken down.
Short answer:
If you can hide money from 1 place and stick it somewhere off the books (in Wyoming)....you put it in your own pocket and make up something for people to believe.
looks like someone is running...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjfRj3LIgAAhEbu.jpg
From 2014 post of Yaniv's balcony ,confirmed his place of residents.
BUMP post number 102208
CHECK MATE! If true my speculation money was being funneled away to S&F holdings could be true. Money is still not accounted for on the corrected (still wrong) Q2 financials.
Next problem.... I'm sure someone at VPOR reads this board and has already alerted "certain people" share holders with torches and pitch forks are digging hard right now.
Trust me, with the amount of missing money not accounted for on the corrected Q2 fin's... there pockets are full and living top shelf. They made another imaginary company of S&F holdings to do exactly that. Hold thier money off the books while no one will sign off on audited financials.
Now that was a funny post! Ya that might put a dent in the universities reputation. Damage is being done everywhere with the current situation of this company. Time to answer the hard question. Hiding only makes it look worse.
(allegedly) =D
Well this was interesting. Also very impressive with all due respect.
Yaniv has a Juris Doctor (j.d.), Law in Law. and received it from George Washington University in 2016.
If you know the laws, you know the loop holes. It is genius to be fair, but excessively unethical when used the wrong ways. Not implying anything just stating the facts.
As always: source
https://www.intelius.com/people/Yaniv-Nahon/Miami-FL/0CK824ZM9B2
Reinstated and stickied. I'm sure all of us want to know the answers to this.
It would be great to hear an update PR about a product VPOR actually owns... like simple cork.
I own an easy grinder. So that is not the case. Just seems the money is being funneled away to someone else's company.
Looks like the .002 support line is gone. Only gets worse from here. Typically the shorters come around the last few days of the month. I would not be surprised at all if .0016 is available tomorrow without anything new released tomorrow.
If Jorge keeps screwing the books up VPOR will never have the funds available for a share buyback.
My thoughts exactly, now can you trust to do business with this company? This is what VPOR needs to fix, reputation...
The hardest thing for me is the lack of guidance we receive as loyal shareholders. In all fairness we have every reason to be upset from the PR's in Q2 claiming best quarter in company history and other misleading information. From a business owner stand point, if VPOR continually miss guides thier own shareholders how can I trust that company if I actually want to do business with VPOR?
On a positive note, the support line is holding at .002 and some lucky investors are cashing in getting .0018's. I'm happy for those gatherings those .0018's up. I don't mind the idle lull we are in, but we are down so far from the expectations we were mislead to believe from Q2.