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THATSSSWWHATIMTALKENBOUT!! LOL
Mkt-predictor
Your statment: The fact the stock sold off during the last hour even after the news was released is something of importance in my opinion, of course I am sure the herds here will completely disregard that.
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The PR stating that the update on pinksheet.com was coming within 24 hours was in the last hour of trading , but the real news was not out until after the market was closed
heres the first posts:
Posted by: CuttinRog
In reply to: None Date:4/5/2007 10:00:48 PM
Post #of 20205
Pinksheets update i think! Got a hit on my new program
Posted by: CuttinRog
In reply to: None Date:4/5/2007 10:02:02 PM
Post #of 20199
PINKSHEETS UPDATE!!!!! 50 Million A/S!!!!!
I'm quite sure that most small company CEO's keep an eye on the publics views , since I'hub is the #1 board for PNMS , that would make it understandable that he would have a few people keeping him abreast of things , since they are in another country trying very hard to understand the US investors. At least I know that if I were in his shoes , thats what I would be doing!
I'm no Tax authority , but it looks like to me , since all of the money coming in is generated in Panama and held in the foundation , that until the money is brought back to the US , it is tax free
So my guess would be that the actual IRS filings for Panamersa Corp. would be much differant than the #'s that we're seeing. So until MT decides to bring the money home, it just sets there drawing intrest.
Just like us (shareholders) when we sell our PDR's on the new exchange , as long as the money stays down there , we pay no taxes either. If and when you decide to wire it home , then IF you wanted to report the money as income , you could or would or should - eeek, better keep my mouth shut!lol
http://www.lawyers-abogados.net/en/Resources/pma/panama_foundation.htm
The income produce by the assets of a Foundation will not be subject to taxes in Panama. Further, the Founder would no longer be responsible for the payment of such taxes. Where the Foundation is receiving income from another country (i.e. not Panama) and there are withholding requirements, the Foundation will need to comply with such requirements. Nevertheless, there are many international investments which result in tax-exempt income (for example – investments in the US stock market, where capital gains on stock trading is exempt from taxes where the investor is not a US citizen
Your right about that!! lol
I really like I-hub because you can just check someones track record to understand there split personalities . After they sell they start bashing and once they buy then their a cheerleader!!
Myself, I've always been a long (cheerleader), I just keep adding more and more , every time there is a dip! avg.= .0015
Now that the $$$$ has been varified we should see alot of green in the very near future - like starting with a gap up Monday!!
I think the longs are close to winning the war on the MM's!
I got this articial the other day from the WWAT board and it sounds so much like the games that we've had to put up with in the last several months!!!!!
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HOW TO WIN THE BATTLES AGAINST THE MM's
OT For the investors that are not use to penny stocks.This is a good read.
More and more investors are winning the game
nowadays despite all bashers that float through the
Internet that has become part of the game. Floor
traders of market makers often watch CNBC, news
wires and bulletin boards in order to follow the
market during trading session. OTC BB market makers
(MMs) don't use fundamental and technical analysis.
However, what they do realize is a lot of dumb
money does use this newest niche charting or TA
(Technical Analysis) to run a stock either up or
down. To the MMs this is like taking candy from a
baby. Simply they will paint the tape and use
whatever tactic to affect the charting bands. Thus
the public and dumb money they will have eating out
of their hands. Effectively the MMs can show a
strong stock growing weak by manipulating the close
price in order to generate selling volume, delaying
trading time to manipulate trading activities, or
even stalling the ask without honoring orders to
hold a stock price.
MMs follow a simple code of business when making a
market in a stock especially an OTC BB / PS. That is the
level that stocks will seek that yields the most
volume. Now this is very important because they
make money on the volume buying at the bid and
selling at the ask. In other words, by making the
market they are buying low and selling high. Now
smart money adheres to that rule, so do all the
market makers. They could careless whether the
stock is at $22 or at $0.0002. All they care about
is the action thus being able to sell stock at the
offer (The high) and buy stock at the bid (The
low). To increase their profitability, they make
the spread as great as possible on as many shares
as they can especially if the volume falls off.
When they have mostly all "buy" orders, that's not
the price that's going to yield the most volume.
They need both buy and sells to get the maximum
action. Remember, MMs play the volume. If the
volume decreases and there are mostly Buys that
become a one way volume, Buy volume. So what they
do is let the stock run up to a price where it runs
out of steam. They fill all the buy orders there
that they can and then comes the pullback one way
or another naturally or induced. During the pull
back they can buy tons of shares and flip them to
those averaging down or trying to catch the bounce.
At some price, the stock will be relatively stable
and yield the most volume. Now that is the average
price you will see
The average price is the point where a stock seeks
a level where MMs can profit on the most volume.
So during the day that is the price that MMs and
momentum/day traders want to see the stock at. Why?
Because they know the public and dumb money was
chasing the price thing up. Most of the time, the
MMs love a flurry of Market Orders which is a dead
sign of an artificial run or momentum. Merely it
is money in the bank for them. Most get hung in a
momentum or day trade or by the tactics of Market
makers, who are in the business to screw the public
every chance they get. They are merely making the
market liquid is their reasoning.
The market makers have created an added
complication to the OTCBB's /PS chaos of the already
volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb
money, momentum and day-traders. MMs can not relate
to long-term holders in the OTC BB / PS. That makes
absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large
percentage of trades in the OTC BB / PS market consist
of short-term or day-trades, MMs merely view the
barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively
neutral to the market. How they figure it is when
the average dumb money buys shares in a company,
the MMs feel or rather know with some certainty it
is very likely that dumb money will want to sell
back those shares relatively quick on the slightest
drop.
Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs
merely short sells into the buying and attempts to
take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the
weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a
move is the beginning of a trend, or a routine
shake out, this type of deception works quite well
for the MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock
is surprise the MMs because instead of falling, the
shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now
that puts the MM at selling low through shorting
and thus having to buy high in order to cover.
Boy, when this happens, the MMs are not very happy
campers. The investors and traders aren't supposed to
be doing that to them. Now it becomes time to pull
out every trick and tactic in the book in order to
attempt to get a Bear Raid at every dollar/cent mark or
percent from where the stock started. Could be a
fraction of a penny in smaller priced securities.
What MMs do is give you a chance to make a small amount
of money for your momentum and day trading style by
shorting it at these levels and trying to get a bear raid
each time. Each failure is compounding the MMs
short position so they let it go to the next level.
Now come more deliberate tactics MMs use to coerce
Bear Raid or panic selling.
Once the MM is caught short and the strength of the
buy is overpowering the MM will want to cover his
short position. So the MMs call up one of his
friendly MMs and says some like "the weather is
sure rough today." The MM along with the other
"friendly MM initiates a down tick about the same
time. Now this can also be done with a certain
amount of shares such as an infamous 100 shares
flag. This down tick gives the illusion of weakness
designed to hopefully begin the bear raid of
selling. The fickle, fearful, day trader, momentum
and short term begin to sell out allowing the MM
to cover his short position at lower prices. They
will move it down quickly to get it to a price of
least financial damage. Problem they have is
long-term investors in the OTC BB / PS. They start
accumulating and buying comes flying in when they
take it too far thus the MMs took it to the point
of volume again and not only investors the other
MMs step in the make money on the spread.
Alas the poor MM does not get to cover. Now comes
various tactics like stalling, boxing, or even
locking the Bid and Ask for a while.
Of course, MMs aggressively deny any sort of
collusion designed to fix quotes or spreads.
MMs have a vast resource of tactics and it would
take probably more than a lifetime to figure them
all out.
So how do investors somehow manage to overcome the
obvious deception in OTCBB arena? One answer is
indirection trading style by going long which the
MMs do not expect. In the war between investors and
public companies on the OTC BB / PS vs the MMs, if the
MMs have all the advantages due to position or
other factors, direct confrontation such as
momentum or day trading hitting the stock is a
definite death sentence.
However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the
path of least resistance before slowly overcoming
it. The most effective way is long-term investors
slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the
MMs out of its defenses making them as naked as
their short position. This is war so this slow
accumulation and holding for the long term easily
achieves the desired effect to force MMs to cover
and knock off the tactics or bury themselves
deeper.
The MMs when caught will especially use every trick
and tactic in the book to get a Bear Raid thus
playing on the individual fear of most people. The
MMs feel they have information and position
advantages over the investors as long as the
holding of the stock is in weak hands or short term
holders. Since they are OTC BB MMs who believe all
OTCBB companies are not worth investing and
management is ineffective regardless what is
happening within the company. Furthermore, MMs know
they are in the position to impose a great deal of
influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits
their needs.
This inherent power of position enables the MMs to
move the markets at any time up or down. As a
result, the only way to draw them out of their
favorable position is going long. Now this does not
mean just any company but to effectively nail the
MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor
and accumulate long before the MM tactics and games
begin.
This requires extensive research to find such a
rare stock, but once you have found it, you are one
up on the MMs so be prepared for every tactic in
the book
**************I think PNMS is that rare stock!!!
I'm sure that your questions will be answered , just another piece of the puzzle to figure out. Try to just set back and enjoy the fact that a huge piece of the puzzle was just revealed ! Do you own any PNMS ?
I agree ,
the problem seems to be, there is so much DD to take in that most pink investors/gamblers don't want to take the time and just read! It gives them to many cracks to throw dout in
It won't be long now though , and most of the shares will be in strong hands and we can say goodbye to bashers/flippers
To all that still don't understand , lets just say , ya might want to buy at least a few tickets to the show, cause its going to be great!!
I think, that with this piece of the puzzle falling into place, we see a sharp rise in PPS over the next month!
.005 to .006 at least
From MT's blog on Panamersa.com
So shareholders I am not saying it is now or never. I am saying this is where we are going. I am not saying to get the guarantee you have to go now. I am saying take your time ask questions see how the software works. If you believe you can make a better income in the present system, then stay. But when you see PDRs trading with a higher pps day in and day out and night in and night out and weekends too. It will start to make sense. It will not be long until beneficiaries from all over the world will be buying PDRs
Our growth, throughout Pan America, is the fastest in our history. Our "Modus Operandi" is very innovative, maybe it is not understood...it is for educated investors.
Best regards.
Pedro Borges Fiol
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This exsplains why your having trouble understanding! I think you need to start working on some DD right away!!
Then I suggest you move on to those stocks you speak of!
There isn't anything about this company that you like , so just move along!
P.S. I'm really sorry your going to miss the ride!
I knew it wouldn't take long to start bashing the new proof of 2006 fins.!
It looks like the only thing that will prove to you that this isn't a scam, is for the new PDR platform to be up and running !
But if you wait to long, you'll be paying over a penny per share
Just a suggestion , but I don't think you should be trading Pinks! go buy some IBM or something!
P.S. - PNMS is one of the only pinksheet stocks that has certified cash in the bank , Believe it or not !
I've had Etrade for over 10 years and love it!! With the new secure key ( you have to order it ), you can wire in funds and trade right away. Just make sure you have the funds in your bank account with in 3 days to cover.
Is this the BUZZZHUB or is it THE BIG HUB !!!
B-HUB on the front pages of I-HUB !!! ,
I only bought BHUB because of their name!
who knows , maybe it will become " THE BIGGEST HUB "
of what , we'll see?
I think the price for this shell just keeps going up!
Info on the new T/A
OLDE MONMOUTH STOCK
TRANSFER CO., INC.
200 Memorial Parkway
Atlantic Highlands, N.J. 07716
Phone: 732-872-2727
Fax: 732-872-2728
John Anthony Troster, President
I sold 25% of my holdings at the bell, so I could ride the rest out with free shares- no more sweating it out for me!!
OLDE MONMOUTH STOCK
TRANSFER CO., INC.
200 Memorial Parkway
Atlantic Highlands, N.J. 07716
Phone: 732-872-2727
Fax: 732-872-2728
John Anthony Troster, President
THIS IS BIGGER , THAN I FIRST THOUGHT !
So your giving up?
You don't think MT's going to post the proof by tomorrow afternoon?
It looks like its a call!!
the question is: Who's going to get any tickets (PDR) less than $19.00 each?
It won't be long now until the cards are layed down for all to see!!
I can hardly wait!!
MT , JUST DO IT !!!
Hey thanks for the 6 month old news!!
Boy , it looks like your really on top of things! lol
Mikes back !
What do you think he's going to do?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Yes I dooooooooo
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"When I was invited to be part of this endeavor, I thought it was a very interesting project from a business point of view, but when I saw the inner workings, I got committed," said Manuel Gonzalez Puron, director vice-president of PANAMERSA Corporation's America III region. "Everyone wants to be part of history, and I believe this effort to integrate Latin America is our chance to bring our legacy back to life."
Added Puron, "PDRs are an effort of a group of people from different Pan-American countries. I hope the rest of the world can understand that PDRs are and will be an instrument to unite, and it will not be the last to come. The birth of PDRs is only an example of everything we can do together."
You said:
Proof that PT Barnum was right..People believe WWF wrestling is real..
I agree, that some Will still believe in WWF
But, I'm just not to sure how many of them , could actively trade the pinks?
POST OF THE DAY
you said:
"prove PT barnum was right, there's a sucker born every minute"
All I can say is "we'll see"
Ha Ha !
And, that is the very reason that the shares are selling for sub-penny!!!
When facts are proven, then you might be late!
Time will tell!
Last call for 17's
Thats right !! I forgot about that!!$1,000.00 per PDR , for brokers that can't cover their shares!!!
Hoowwss bouutt that!lol
I hope I'm remembering that PR right,
the one that talked about that cost to brokers-anyone?
MT said:
"We are excited about our growth, and are adamantly addressing all issues related to the name change, price per share, financials, and the shortest route which leads to a future Nasdaq listing," said Terrell. "As all of our educated investors know, great companies are not built overnight, but we strive to be consistent and reliable in all our dealings and look forward to seizing new opportunities as they are presented."
Good morning loyal shareholders, potential shareholders and all of the Pan Americans of Regions I, II, III and IV who have been true to the cause.
I would like to start with an apology to those shareholders who expected to see the certified totals Monday. I take 100 percent responsibility for them not being here. I alone am to blame because I did not allow enough time for all of the proper channels and items to be completed. There, of course, were other circumstances involved, but that is irrelevant. The fact remains, what was promised was not delivered, and I am the one to blame.
The reasons for being involved in any company are based on performance of the company, potential and leadership. Investing based on these reasons keeps shareholders from acting in haste based on misinformation. I am asking you now to not run with the stampeding herd right off a cliff, speak with your brokers and make informed decisions based on your personal needs, not the posts of others on message boards.
I am not writing this to split hairs, or change the definition of the word is. I am writing this to tell you that I screwed up and want to own up to my mistakes. I miscalculated the length of time it would take to receive the certified document which confirms the totals in my hand to post on the Web site.
I see - said the blind man. lol
Thats pretty bad when a basher can't even multiply!! ha ha !!
Whatss chuu talllk'en bout , I didn't say that!!
LMAO
It looks like its almost a call!!
the question is: Who's going to get any tickets (PDR) less than $19.00 each?
It won't be long now until the cards are layed down for all to see!!
MT's last words to the shareholders before leaving the festivities of " PANAMA WEEK " and flying home to be with his closest friends and family.
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"I know there has been a delay in delivering the legal certification document, but it is as I have stated for several months now, the numbers are the same as the numbers released in February, but they are now certified by the fiscal and the external auditors as true and correct," said Terrell. "The numbers are strong and show our growth as a business, and the certification now confirms the monies that PANAMERSA Corporation held as of 12/31/2006."
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They probly don't! as much as you seem to think they do !!
I feel your pain & frustration ,
MT will have your answers soon! ,
but I can't for the life of me , figure out why any investor of any company , Would get on a world wide public message board and talk down there own investment!
And - for those that are clueless as to why the verified cash in the bank will make the PPS move up or down ?
The answer: It will prove/answer a very criticial piece of the puzzle , that is vidal for this company to go on!
from Bullit69 --- All documents have been stamped off by the various ministries involved and two pounds of paper where sent out via DHL on Saturday, Manila time, Bob said to me track it yourself : DHL Tracking Number is 2899053684
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Well it looks like the papers are going to arrive today ,there on the delivery truck! Looks like only half of what you said , showed up ( only 1 lb. package )
Yea, but don't forget about the people that just bought in for .0002 per share! Might turn out to be quite a play?
If I buy lotto tickets , I'm pretty sure I'm not going to win and I'll lose everything!
But, if I play a stock like this, it seems more like a 50/50 shot !
He now has the ball that he's been trying to get from Panama for sometime now!
lets at least give him a chance to come back to the US and see if he can throw a touchdown and then go on and win the game!!