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What does ACG say are the next steps?
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I can't stop laughing at this joke (r)
That would be a good time Golf! But what I'm hoping they do is right smack dab 2 or 3 days before election! Can you imagine the heads that would explode? It would be glorious as in a heavenly choir singing alleluia. Lol
Everyone placing their bets now because SCOTUS is not being seen as doing anything on the Collins decision until 2021. I think this is SCOTUS telegraphing the government to get their settlement in order and done before SCOTUS does it for them.
My opinion....settlement and or consent decree is going to be announced soon, which will involve the NWS, warrants and senior prefferred's. It explains a few things currently going on like dropping short interest and the price is starting to react on different news, where before we were pretty much standing still. Articles starting to point out this very thing of how terrible NWS can end up costing the treasury big, so they will be pushing hard to settle.
Since things are coming to a head, I imagine any news or comments from those you list will be limited to after they make a major move. They are not going to telegraph anything ahead of doing it.
This is why when they announce what they will do with the warrants (cancel, use some for recap, etc) the common price will jump. At that point a value of shares will be easier to assess. But, the common shares could start moving before that if there is rumor leak.
Sit tight on those shares! Many will try to pry from your hands with lose talk and misinformation.
I think we have finally gained insight into the jps synopsis of doing things versus commons. This Wedbush, that no one heard of before today, has loosened the opinions and lips of jps holders! It would seem they (most small position jps holders) are following the hedge fund billionaire guys like good lap dogs, but remember, you lay with dogs and you get fleas. It would appear that jps go off of what the hedge fund billionaire preffered holders say, totally ignoring Congresses despising them. So... jps truth comes out, they can not think for themselves as we common holders do. They need a coat tails to try and ride, but here's the thing....hedge funds and the billionaires that run them are not in the business of making small time holders rich, on the contrary, they love to manipulate the smaller holders to gain their fortunes.
People who have billions:
A. Have been wrong and can afford to be.
B. Didn't get billions by making money for others.
C. Can be trusted just like our government. Aka At your own risk.
D. Are not always part of the inner circle of justice.
You need to ask SM, MC Morgan Stanley and JPM, just to name a few. I don't think they are on board with your plan or there would have been rumor/news.
It's on no one's radar that counts. Give it up, no spac
I hear prefferred's are going to maybe get 30-40% max of par in settlement. Period
So government will issue new lower interest ones.
Excellent post! I to loved those Tim Conway characters. His old man was like greased lightning compared to courts and the government. I liked his Dorf skits also and the ones with Harvey Coreman
Well....at least he knows his shyt on one topic?
I had an order in a month ago at $2, never filled, so I upped it $2.05. Boom filled
$2 seems to be the manipulated stop for shares as well as anything higher than $2.25.
The closer we get to cases wrapping up, and/or release or consent decree, the more hit piece news, phony analyst opinions, etc we will see. Sit back, hold on to your shares, it's gonna get real messy as far as accurate information.
I think ano is already on record saying no one share class gets everything, like some jps posters here are saying. Any analyst claiming shares are worth zero clearly does not know you can not have a capital raise with legacy shares being worth zero. The government can not kill the 20% of shareholders since their 80% is tied to us legacy holders.
But yes, wold love to hear ano's logical response.
Ticker info for commons canceled.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FNMAS?p=FNMAS&.tsrc=fin-srch
Look under ex dividend date, says Sept 11, 2008.
JPS HAVE NOT HAD ANY DIVIDENDS SINCE SEPTEMBER 2008.
NWS began 2012.
How do the lawyers, representing the jps holders in Lamberths court, intend to prove the NWS prevented the jps holders contract rights to dividends when ALL shareholders lost dividends starting in 2008?
The only way dividends get back paid is if conservatorship issue is voided via unconstitutional. Then ALL shareholders get back paid.
Commons canceled explain your NWS Claim.
Ask commons canceled! He has a maaaaagic calculator that pairs nicely with his magic 8 ball
So jps got dividends B4 the NWS? This is the first I'm hearing this.
Been here almost 13 years, and from what I know all shares were denied dividends the day the conservatorship started.
Like I said, good luck with Lamberth and your NWS claim. Lol
That's stupid,,so dumb. They are going to raise capital after wiping out previous shareholders, your a genius! Go let MC and SM know. Hurry up now, run along. Lol
There's a far better case to wipe out jps than commons.
Hate to tell ya, but you guys are going to lose in Lamberth's court.
You have non cumulative contract rights, do you understand that? Have you read it in the contract? Unless this conservatorship can be found to be fully unconstitutional and shut down by scotus, jps will never see any back dividends.
No, no, no, no, no and no.... You can not convert for $1 if commons are worth zero, which is it Einstein?
Your magic 8 ball needs to be shook harder and harder to keep up with your illogical day dreaming.
Have you studied the governments warrants and spsa? You jps guys ain't getting squat before they clean up. I expect if they ever had the balls to liquidate, jps would have got 2% of their precious par, if that. Government is not affraid to step on the big band jps holders wieners. Lol
You guys are cockaroaches to the government just like common holders.
Bloomberg nothing but GSE propaganda fake news and ratings. The head honcho is still smarting from his expensive run to be top goober, booger eater of the Democrat party, so now trying to make money back any crooked way he can.
Well if commons are worth zero then jps is worth just as much or less since they are the ultimate in share hierarchy. Lol
See any words in this definition that could be a synonym for order?
plan
/plan/
noun
1.
a detailed proposal for doing or achieving something.
"the UN peace plan"
Similar:
scheme
plan of action
idea
master plan
game plan
proposal
proposition
ploy
suggestion
project
program
system
method
procedure
strategy
stratagem
formula
recipe
scenario
arrangement
schedule
agenda
way
means
measure
tactic
tack
plot
device
maneuver
ruse
shift
2.
an intention or decision about what one is going to do.
"I have no plans to retire"
Similar:
intention
aim
idea
intent
objective
object
goal
target
hope
aspiration
ambition
verb6th
1.
decide on and arrange in advance.
"they were planning a trip to Egypt"
Similar:
organize
arrange
work out
think out
design
line up
outline
sketch out
map out
chalk out
draft
prepare
schedule
program
formulate
frame
project
develop
set up
fix up
shape
build
devise
concoct
contrive
plot
scheme
cook up
hatch
brew
mastermind
orchestrate
choreograph
slate
excogitate
intend
make plans
aim
propose
mean
be resolved
have in mind
hope
want
wish
desire
contemplate
envisage
foresee
envision
expect
purpose
2.
design or make a plan of (something to be made or built)
So let's say right now they are trying to end conservatorship by making a plan. Or is it they are planning ending conservatorship? Or the plan is to end the conservatorship, or maybe it's the conservator is planning to end conservatorship? Or they are planning a plan to end conservatorship?
I see the difference. Lmao
But no way is it an order. Tell Trump, let's see what he says. Lol
That's a point no news outlet has mentioned but is very true.
I do realize they did not want to destroy the governments already destroyed debt.
I hope you and Golf, Guido and others are right. I am growing leery of the courts as far as my trust level goes. I thought Sweeny, from her statements, was going to do some upstanding things, yet she let things languish and has caved in on some things. It is hard to deny that the courts are not scratching the governments back and vice versa in this whole nefarious cluster puck.
Lately I've been wondering if the government buying out current commons would be a smart move,,a poster on here not long ago was advocating this. Start fresh by doing that and canceling the warrants. Leave jps in place and the spsa. That would let the government keep their hand in thee cookie jar, so raising capital on new shares would be a bit tough.
Buying current outstanding common though for like 18-25 would be a win, win for gov and commons and would knock out a lot of the litigation, since the majority of jps direct claims have been shot down and they do not benefit much from derivative cases.
Yep agree, the bank advisors and financial advisors are a joke. They should be talking to shareholders, we're the ones paying them via company profits funneled through fhfa.
Yes,,post of the year definitely! Lol
Yep, fubar is putting it lightly.
What I would currently like to know is, how can MC be taking part in any agreement settlement or capital raise when his job description is still being debated by scotus?
Right on the button there, fence!
Konstantine is one of very few on yahoo that is level headed.
Yep, lol
Like slow Joe, she needs a full time "tapioca dribble nurse".
That's her clerks, or someone else.
No. Not a patriot, a hindrance to "due process".
If this were a perceived conservative justice, there would be no end to the screaming and knashing of teeth in the media for a replacement, especially if a Democrat was president.
No way is she full seam. Her court clerks are writing the opinions. She needs to GTFO!
If you had to diagram a tree structure of all the cases for the past 12 years, I imagine the paper required to depict this would cover a football field....and that's if you write pretty small.
The companies will be responsible for their own capital raise.
Perpetuating a long gone comment from years ago. Catch up to the current comments of MC, please
Wrong, very wrong!
The "no conversion" clause in the junior pref contracts only means they cannot force a conversion. It doesn't stop FHFA from directing FnF to offer one./quote]