Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Trainsite,
That is a tricky question. First, you never know what it will open at, whether at the Bid or Ask, way below, or gapped way up. So, it depends on the history of the stock. Lets use Telatinos as an example. This stock at this price hasn't gapped up or down much at all. It usually starts around the last PPS. Now, if you want in at the best price, my feeling is that you don't want to set your limit at the current PPS. I have noticed that over the past month, there is a time during the day that you can catch a bargain. Lets say the PPS is at .041, well, throughout the day, it may hit .038. If the Bid was at .039, and the Ask was at .041, you may want to set your price at the Bid. If you have patience, you may set it lower, like at .038. If you set your price at .041, or higher, you will be at the highest that it may reach in a long time, seriously. If we were talking about many other stocks, that are listed on a major exchange, it all depends on what you are willing to pay, how long you will expect to hold, and what type of return you want to achieve. Generally, if you get it at Bid or Ask in , lets say, Kerr Mcgee (KMG), does it really matter? You will not be flipping that one any time soon. But in Telatinos, a penny is VERY important, and you want to get it at the lowest point. That is unless you will be hanging out LOOOOOONG. If you are planning to be in for a year or more, it doesn't matter, a quarter penny up or down.
Bottom line, you as a retail investor (like all of us) will most of the time get your BUY at the ASK or higher, so it all depends on where you expect the PPS to go, so you get the lowest ASK throughout the day. Does this help?
Dan
EVEN, i am going to answer this...
question, but i may be wrong. If i am, i am sure someone will correct me.
Paul Taylor is the Director of Ipxes, Inc., as shown on the I-BOX. Paul Taylor is the Director of BerkshireBDC, which is the parent(is that right?) or majority holder of Telatinos.
Just to make sure, am I right guys?
Dan
Serf, I have to say...
That the I-Box looks great. I always wanted a DD page. I also always wanted our own board, that we control.
This must really burn EVEN up.
Serf, the link is:
http://www.geocities.com/dlsmoov/tlno04-11-05.jpg
Serf, i like my name..Investor's, Inc.
i tried, went through the motions...
on RB, but they never gave me the OK. I did it twice. I guess someone at RB doesn't like me. LoL
Dan.....
hey serf....just got in...
send a PDF, i like to control the resolution.
OT: World Trade Center - Donald Trump
I cannot believe that Donald Trump called Daniel Libeskind and David Childs' Architectural Masterpeice a piece of junk.
read here~~~> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/18/wtc.trump/index.html
His point is that the original should remain, but be bigger. Let me tell you that I think that is not a good idea. Why? Well,
Minoru Yamasaki, chief Architect, designed these towers in the 60's, and at the time, he was criticized for designing mundane, banal buildings without character (i don't agree with this commentary by the way). No one appreciated these towers, much like the Eiffel Tower was despised when built. Now, everyone claims them to be the best buildings!
It is the 21st century, and new and better designs and construction concepts exist. These new tools and ideas should be used to provide a new fabric of downtown manhattan, creating open space, much better than the cold plaza that once existed, as well providing a state of the art facility that compliments the existing buildings and site conditions. The idea of the Freedom Tower was conceived by incorporating the need for a memorial, all the while providing the feeling of overcoming such a tragedy that occurred on September 11, 2001.
I can go on and on, and perhaps I feel that the new Freedom Tower could have been better, but every Architect would say that! LOL The point is that Donald trump's heart may be in the right place, but simply making BIGGER buildings that look like the old ones denies Americans a new landmark that allows them to reflect on that horrible day, while appreciating how we responded to that tragedy. A bold statement of perserverance needed to be made, and I feel that Libeskind and Childs did just that.
Take a look at the new tower~~~> http://www.september11news.com/1_Libeskind_TallComImg.jpg
http://www.september11news.com/LibeskindModel.jpg
http://www.september11news.com/1_NYNwsConfMdl_LibeskindStand_Feb2703.jpg
Don't ever forget.
Dan
cya later tonight guys and gals...eom
EVEN, i understand that you dont...
agree. Thats ok.
EVEN, I disagree..
before you and others showed up, we always had debates...heated or not. Maninfla(i understand that you feel he is in your camp) always provided a good conversation and debate. Bskelton, Polka, Pad, and others (i would include me, if i could be so bold), oh ya, and whether you believe it or not Serf and Wap always sparked discussions. These are just a few of the names, many have contributed to the process.
Believe it or not EVEN, Serf is the guy that I admire the most. He was relentless is digging for information. He might have been more upbeat about the prospects of Telatinos, but he never, IMO PUMPED the stock. HE merely stated the facts and provided his opinion. (serf, not trying to defend you, I am just stating facts as I know them.)
Dan
Kam, thank you...i know sometimes...
i can get a bit heated, but all in all, i love hanging out with you guys and gals.
Kam, I agree. I am excited about the possibilities..
and that is why i am still here.
Dan
E: finally, you asked if i agreed with Polka...
Yes.
Dan
EVEN, now I understand....but...
I think I need to clarify.
First, we as longs have dug and dug and continue to dig into what is known as Telatinos. Sometimes, I feel that "someone" wanted us to buy when they wanted us to, but also sell on the downturn (which we have clearly seen for 2.5 months). Then, we would go away, right? Wrong this time, because many of us stuck around.
Secondly, I am not saying it is our fault for the PPS to go down, cause we cannot REALLY control that in the pinks. In fact, I think WE are the reason why it didn't go to .01, much like diamondhappy and others claimed as the target. There are not enough shares in play since many are holding.
Finally, the PR's may have been silenced because the digging that we did. MANY of us called various contacts (i was lacking in that department, I just called our wonderful IR firm, the mail stop number, and the TA), but others contacted people's homes, other businesses listed on PR's, emails up the wazuu! etc. Then we spill the beans on the boards. I have a feeling that we have been the PR's...LoL
Dan
Serf. no need for apologies...sometimes...
I don't know myself. this all started with EVEN's "confusion" post. That is exactly what i am. if it wasn't for Poker, i would be angry at losing my money in this stock. LoL
Dan
EVEN. i don't understand. eom
EVEN, i know that my words please you...
when I say i am unhappy with the current situation, but don't mistake me for someone who has given up in this dogfight. We (longs, that is) have found and seen things to be positive about concerning telatinos. I feel that we got in on the ground floor of something BIG. But, to get off that floor, we need to get out of the pinks. This place is dangerous, with the manipulation (you can see it on level 2, backfilling). I feel that "management" is deliberately keeping us in the dark about their plans, and they can down here in the pinkland. Sometimes, I feel that WE are the problem, which made "management" turn off the hose bibb of PR's. I think they are trying to compile a crap load of information to present to investors at the right time, to combat manipulators and propel them out of this PIT. We invested in Telatinos during a blitz of information and, yes, manipulation. But, that is not necessarily bad. Again, ground floor. I have accepted the notion that they are "getting their ducks in a row". Your thoughts guys and gals?
Dan
Serfdom, happy with Telatinos, or happy with a current situation and the prospects of growth? I know I am splitting hairs here, but my happiness generally dealt with the current situation that was occuring at the time.
Now, to be fair, I have been excited about things. For instance, I am looking forward to the FS 33:1, and I was also excited in late January or early Feb when I went GREEN for the first time. I also was looking forward to the 4:1 split that became 6:5. But, still happy about that.
I have always mentioned that financials needed to be given (again, read my first post on RB...around 700 or so). I love hanging with all of you guys and gals, and I enjoyed the PR's. I loved digging for information on Teli, pre-EVEN. It felt like treasure hunting!
I guess you can say that Telatinos, to me, is a company that I feel can turn a HUGE profit if run correctly. VOIP will be everywhere. I just don't enjoy the silent treatment.
Anyway, thanks for listening to me ramble.
Dan
EVEN, that is why...
I only have a small position. The company never PROVED to me that it will make it as a viable company. My investment was pure specOlation. Of course, meeting some really great people kept me hanging out on the boards.
Dan
Serf, I have been confused since January 23rd! LoL just read my posts Mr. Even. I cannot remember when I said I was happy with Telatinos. Perhaps I said that I was happy about a current situation, or a PR, or an upcoming split, but I cannot remember EVER being happy with Telatinos as a COMPANY. So, Mr. EVEN, thank you for kicking a man when he is down, continuously.
Dan
Serf...well, and the board...
here is my thought for the day, you know, like Jack Handy:
Unless Telatinos gets a huge influx of investors, post split, we will never leave .001. No brainer right? Well, it is, but to get buyers, the COMPANY must step up and give the financials to show that they mean business. So, unless the next PR has financials included, my opinion is that we will not see much movement. Period.
Dan
ps. I scored at Foxwoods the other night, again. I had to make back that Telatinos and Roscan money! LoL
glad i can help. eom
Thanks sunny. have a good night. eom
sorry serf, i am a little behind...
i have been out most of the day.
Serf, you can put a link to the site
i set up for the filings, right?
Serfdom, thanks for working on the IBOX...
you are a great American.
This site, www.investorshub.com that is, is much better than other message boards out there. Thank you for the site.
Dan
EVEN, why are you acting like this is...
the first time that any long said that? I guess you cannot read well. Please look back at the posts from March and April.
Dan
EVEN: fine then lets discuss:
I only know WHO we are talking about because YOU said his name. I didn't know until you told me it was Mark Lefkowitz. I don't know that for sure. But you seem to be saying that Mark Lefkowitz is the MARK being discussed. Who else said that Mark L. was the short? Only you. Therefore, we all KNOW who we are talking about. I am now talking about Mark Lefkowitz because YOU mentioned his name in relation to shorting this security. Yes, I can call. Now, if you are claiming that I know that the Mark YOU mention is the short, I don't. I don't even know if there is a short named MARK!!!! So, I ask you, Are YOU (EVEN) insinuating that Mark Lefkowitz is the short WE are talking about?
This is what I know.
deadEVEN mentioned "Mark" and Compass
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6337983
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=3332&PrevStart=798
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6312738
EVEN mentioned 40 Wall Street is a weird way, from left field.
By: EVEN
23 Apr 2005, 11:48 PM EDT
Msg. 31450 of 35678
Jump to msg. #
40 Wall Street. E
Now, with these little POPIN's, what are we to think?
Dan
EVEN seems to know more than anyone about this..eom
EVEN, this is not the place for this talk...
go to the courthouse and discuss this with Serfdom. Aren't you the one who keeps telling us to keep it clean in here?
EVEN, lets not be coy,
First of all, I will not mention a FIRST and LAST name when talking about someone that I don't know, or have PROOF is doing ANYTHING. Everyone knows who we are talking about, but you seem to WANT me to say it. Here is the deal. There is specOlation going on. I don't have one shread of evidence that this person IS THE SHORT. And, if it is Naked Shorting being practiced, well, that is illegal, and if I say Mr. "X" is partaking in naked shorting of TLNO, then I am liable for slander (is that the term). So, again, don't be coy, I will not put myself in that position for a few thousand shares....but you seem to want me to. Why? This is not the first time you brought it up.
Dan
EVEN, perhaps...
someone should ask "Mark" is he is in fact a heavy short of TLNO. Is that illegal?
Dan
hey yall. just waiting for some news. eom
SERF, i like I-HUB. seems to work better..
also. RB constantly is haveing problems.
Good luck Crocbite. eom
Crocbite...i want to know...
do you still have shares from the Trezac days?
Sword, look at this page...
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/historical/default.asp?detect=1&symbol=tlno&close_date=12%2...
December 28, 2004....day before split