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you forgot I have been called the longterm basher here LOL.....but I am not shure you are right: Herzog has to losse an enormous reputation. I do not believe this is a pump and dump....WHY? Where are those millions of shares today which are in the hands of Herzog? I do not see tjhem dumped!
yes, of course you are right!
This information I know alrady - unfortunately it is the only one.
forget it - stock guru is a paid promoter
Well, I do not have a big problem with the possible fact that LondonWall Investment Ltd. does not have a homepage. In this case you might be right that they are just a subsudary of someone bigger.
But,. sorry, why this LondonWall Investment KLtd. is ONLY mentioned with an investment in BGM;O....and not in any other compnay within the last years - which would be in search machines as well as the news with BGMO !!!
Such a question screams for an answer, or am I wrong?!
Simply psychology: If a stock increases 500% within some days, people do not compare price, O/S and financial background - but only shareprice monday to shareprice friday LOL Thats why such stopcks are so dangerous - this is Las Vegas on stocks - and not a potential investment. But those guys will be out with some bucks in their pockets - which is good - and disappear to another sub penny bullboard - repeating their wordings they have used here LOL
I accumulated as I had to use the latest news releases to get off my bad price of 2006. That simple. I did not trust in Herzog....but I have been trusting in the psychology of the community here.....as you see I have been right. And....if you are trying to 'insult' me....maybe you better read ALL my posts - there you will find that I always stated, this stock will rock one day by such news - but I always have been warning cause Herzog did crap in the past and that everybody should be careful. Anything wrong with this?
No, I do not think so at all....especially if I have to notice that 'LondonWall Investments Ltd.' does not have any website and is not mentioned at search machines. Not a reason to be critical?!?
Even the shareprice goes great.....it is still just a PinkSheet stock with nothing to be proved and with no official papers vhecked by the SEC - just news releases by the compnay and by the CEO ! Did you get this? Hope so.
I am happy with the momentum currently - but do you believe a matured inevstor stops beeing careful just because you guys go nuts? LOL
stockmaruader, as I respect your trading behaviour - of course - I would like how do you see the current momentum? I know it is difficult to make predictions as the thrill/hype is on 200miles per hours ;) - nevertheless I wopuld be interested to know how you are planning to 'play' this momentum!
Cheers
Hillard Herzog is not mentioned in any other business, company but in BGMO. It looks like he has no business background at all if I believe in my DD by Google etc. Looks like he has been a white piece of paper before BGMO - strange!
You might wonder, but I agree with you totally. I would be the last one recommending to hold such stock longterm......but I do it nevertheless as I have had success with long term investing in micros as well.
By the way, I am not stuck in BGMO with a much higher PPS. I got in at .60 with a small amount. My investment behaviour is: Get in and strat with a small amount, is the stock going up - you are already in - if the stock is going down, buy more - the cheaper the stock the more shares I 'collect'. As my last buys have been at .07 my break-even is .12.
Sorry, my freind, but in this case I feel not able to agree that longterm holding of a microcap is nonsense.
My portfolio I always hold approximately 8-12 different microcaps - longterm - but with interesting and promising stories and directors with some reputation - and based on lots of DD. Those stocks, which I call young horses, might grow or might die.....but there is always one of them becoming a winner - more or less of course. I did well with this strategy past 14 years....not broke at all Of course you need some financial background for this.... but as I also have a well-going company I have a lot of fun with micros.....
But, again, you are right, this should not be the strategy of little investors who just have some thousand $ to play with. In this case the best is : Get in early - get out fast - whatever gains you made.
Really ????????????? Finally someone who wonders!
Which better new should come these days.....we got anone billion news which thrills parts of the market already. You don't expect solar facilities and revenues before end of 2010, don't you ?
If this one-billion-news is not enough to level BGMO up to $ 2.00 short term I would have to wonder a lot.
Correct! This is why I have been investing in BGMO in 2006 cause I did not intent to gamble/daytrade or whatever, but I have been interested in a microcap-growth-story. I am investing in micros since 14 years, some of them good, many of them bad. But nevertheless I have been in stories which went from 0.12 to 6.50 - and this stock is the reason I drive an expensive vintage car today.
So, of course gambling/daytrading microcaps is great if you are lucky with some thousand bucks.....but making real money longterm with such a story is MUCH more fun! So that's why I am interested in fundamentals, truth of releases, business background of directors, reputation of those guys, etc. etc. even of such a pinksheet. Days like today are great.....but not what I(!) am looking for!
funken, of course I am with you.....I am in the same position. Just hope everything is true what has been released by Herzog !!!!
funken, understandable post. Good luck - really - we all need it !!!
We are talking about the difference of 'truth' and potential 'fraud' in a pennystock and not just gambling. If you are just gambling and prefer to forget those fundamentals I am talking about (I am not talking about existence and content of quarterly reports - I am talking about the truth of news reports!) than you support all pumpers who might support a fraud....just to fill your personal wallet. If this would be enough to satify your live and your gambling behaviour .....Good luck!
I see, no interest in growth. Just gambling. No wonder most here are not interest in fundamental informations and DD.
Good luck nevertheless
The term "London Wall" is used in the name of many companies. The reason:
" London Wall was the defensive wall built by the Romans around Londinium, their strategically important port town on the River Thames in England. The name London Wall, as explained below, may also be used to refer to a road related to this wall."
So, "London Wall Ltd." and "London Wall Investment Ltd." as well as "One London Wall Ltd." ....they are all different companies....Thus WHO is "London Wall Investment Ltd."
I made my DD on this last night for 1.5 hours and did not find anything but a tiny note !
Obvioulsy nobody here is interested to clearify the question about the existence and the reputation of this "London Wall Investmnent Ltd."
By the way....beelzebub is right: all new releases came from BGMO and Herzog: BGMO news and Herzogs interview are identical.
Just a side niote.
but I am much more interested in this mysterious british "London Wall Investmnent Ltd."
LondonWall Investments Ltd.
I made my DD on this Investments house. The result has been very strange. However, no further comments from my side until members of this communitgy made their DD on LondonWall Investments Ltd. as well. Notice, put "LondonWall Investments Ltd." between quotation marl if you google or yahoo or whatever. I am not interested in your results of LondonWall Investments Ltd. mentioned together with Bergamo- I like to know your results about the house and its activities with other companies! Remember, we are talking about a british investment house investing not less than amazing 1 billion into Bergamo!
Very curious to read your results and comments!!!!!
Of course I am not an idiot and will wait now how this story unfolds. I have been very criticial about BGMO and I will stay critical as long as I invested in a pinksheet in general and especially after this long time holding the dead duck BGMO - which seems to be past now - hopefully.
You know my classic car? I have been talking about the car long time ago with one of posters at a bullboard. Obvioulsy I have had a too big mouth as this should not be a topic at bullboards . But, I can say, I still would prefer any classic car from Great-Britain insteed any pinksheet company from the States .
Well, the problem is that I have got into BGMO years ago because of a hint by another CEO who has been dealing with slothes as well. It was in autumn 2007 when he told me already that Herzog does not only intent to go OTC but straight to the AMEX! I was impressed about this dynamic idea as the news releases of BGMO have been thrilling in 2006/2007. Well, as we know nohting happend until today.
BUT.. as this other CEO knew Herzog personally I still believe that Herzog is trying to make his last great deal. Typical for old and rich investors who want to succeed a last time. This solar story now proves that I am right in this point: Herzog gave it a try and seem to be success ful after all those terrible years for shareholder. Well, last but not least: I believe Herzog does not focus on OTC ...I believe Herzog focusses on AMEX ! Which would be great, of course, for shareholder. But it will takes some time until this happens !!!!
Well, thats a great post about shorting. Especially the sentence:
".....Short selling on OTC is extremely risky because these securities are often very thinly traded, which makes them very illiquid..."
I would like to know what people think about the risk to short a pinksheet without any volume at all week for week within last two years if a OTC stock without volume is highest risk already.And shorting 1000 shares with a value of .10 sometimes only could be a waste of time, couldn't it ? $100 per day. Not bad. Daily petrol for my classic car
Well, beelzebub, in this case I have to defend Herzog:
He was looking for real deals - he promised too much all those years - but nevertheless he was looking for real deals! And - as long as nothing worked well, he might not have seen any reason to go OTC. I wouldn't have done this as well. but, and this is the critical point, he told us BGMO made millions with clothes etc. So this has been my old question: Where has this money gone too. In case those millions would habe been existing, Herzog would have had used this enoprmous amount of money to go OTC. but he didn't. The interesting question is WHY? I can not answer this. But no doubt this is a reasonable question.
But, of course, my young friends, who hate me so much , will have a wonderful answer for this qustion - as they have for everything an answer - because they are so well-experienced investors )))
Well, I do not believe it dose make a big difference if the float is 2.5 or 10.5 million if a solar story progresses well longterm - and especially at Pakistan. Pakistan is under a lot of competition pressure with India. So, as the government will support any progress in new energies for Pakistan, I believe BGMO has a real chance to become a enormously good story - finally and hopefully. Still astonished and very careful about Herzog - but nobodies perfect... included me
Which means that even pinksheet.com is not up to date anymore. Strange, but happens sometimes.
I guess you have been learning to read at school:
"zerodilly, I told you I will short.....but only after more dump guys like you will have started to react to Herzogs news-platter."
Do know know the difference between : "I will short now" and "I will short only after...." ?
and, by the way, do you think a shareholder shorts his shares which he bought high?
Idiots!
This is the best
Yes, I was bashing BGMO....and if you are too stupid to understand the frustration of a longterm shareholder who has been kicked into the a$$ for three yaears by empty promises Herzog did than I just have a smile for you, little big man. LOL
It is even not a 'BB-Stock' if you mean OTC-BB
If those inforamtions are true, we are getting a more clear picture of the share situation. In this case I believe even more that we do not have a float of 2.5 million shares only. no problem really. But this answers the question why the shareprice does not explode so much......nevertheless I thuink it is not fear to say this because the early plus of 67% was really an explosion. Do not forget: This is not a biotech stock which has found a working new medicament ! It is just a pink sheet still!
dan, taking into account your 130k shares plus mine all in all 440k plus some here who will have some 100k as well....I ask myself if it is true that this stock has a float of 2.5 million only!!!!! Start to doubt that
I believe in this scenario - IF everything works well as well as the progress in building up solar energy within an acceptable time frame:
If BGMO stays pink for next 12 months:
6 months $2-3
12 months $4-5
If BGMO goes OTC or AMEX (plan of Herzog since long):
12-24 months $10-17
(Don't forget the paperworks might take mopnths until BGMO is back on the road adn SEC proves a lot after such a long time of being pink!!!)
Longtern if things go really well this could co $20-30
BUT only without enormous dilution....which would be idiotic as BGMO receives a billion $. but don't forget: insider can offer shares to themselves - which is dilution as well. Hope this does not happen.
I think the stock does not move higher and does not have more volume as still only trader and gambler buy it. As long as the company is not in the focus of the big market as well as on the focus of banks, investors tc, and as long as BGMO is not off PinkSheet.som, as long the volatility will be very high! One day we will be thrilled ,some days we will be frustrated about this volatily.....last finally the story will present a enormous growth which will result in a shareprice which reflects the progress !
I must admit that this story astonishes me a lot as signs and progress in the last years have been very bad. Will Herzog finally make it? Looking so.
As I kept some hundred k shares for so many years shares I hope I get a reward for my patience in the near future. I think everyone understands that I had to be very critical after nearly three years of negative experiences with BGMO and with Herzog. I hope I was mistaken and every of those outstanding news is reality.
theck, the wording "market are always right" regards to the fact that markets make the price of share.This is kind a 'philosophical' question! As an investor I should invest in companies which are in the focus of markets and which receive interest in the market - which can be seen by increasing shareprices. Thus, as the market does not like what can be seen (or better said 'not seen') at GRSR, the market is right.
I did not make any DD on DJIA.....but this company must have which the market likes. And as long as the market likes a stock and I make gains with the decision of the market to support this company....the market is right! As long as the market dislike a company - and there are obvious reasons for this - and the shareprice decrease by and by - while I am still in and watch my investment going zero - the makrets are right again and obviously I am wrong! Hope you get my point.
theck, lack of transparency is one of the worst reasons to invest in a stock.....simply said: It is idiotic to invest as it is totally against any rule and any 'law' of investing properly the stockmarket to make gains ! Thus the market must be right to ignore this stock and we are wrong!!! We are still confidental bnecause we HAVE to be confidental....it is our money which we lost by holding a dead duck and of course 'hope dies last'. What we have is 'must-optimism' otherwise we would have to accept that we made a big mistake to invest in a pink sheet stock because we have been greedy in a early solar story!
I am heavily invested in GRSR - but - not doubt, I have been wrong and the market has been right!
Great, finally someone here who has humor I like this!
Good luck, triforce!
yes, believe in it because such lower number looks much better. Who cares if they are right LOL
yes, this are false information because they are totaly outdated. Pink likes BGMO are not in the focus of official institutions!
About pinks you do not get any information more accurate than at www.pinksheets.com !!! Do you never check this if you trade pinks?
theck, unfortunately markets are always right...this is a investor rule! As long as GRSR has top fight Klamka, shows no reports, shows no revenues to the market (eben they might have revenues), is listed pink, is part of the solar decrease (currently!)......as long the market is - right! Sorry, I am a shareholder with heavy bunches of GRSR - but if I am a honest investor I have to state this above.