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Who reads his post?? He’s a con-artist exposed preaching a cram-down WHILE shorting the common stock. Freely admitted shorting and bragged about it.
Short Sellers wants the Common Shareholders wiped out. Now we know why!
kthomp19
Re: DaJester post# 777906
Friday, 12/22/2023 11:44:06 AM
For some more transparency, I closed both legs of this trade earlier this week. I sold FNMAO for $3.77 and covered the FNMA short at $0.724. That's about a 23% gain on FNMAO and a 2% loss on FNMA for an overall gain of roughly 20%. Not bad, even though FNMAO's bid is $4.19 right now so I could have done even better.
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Patswill, you’re a board moderator and the below post has everything to do about Fannie and Freddie. Not sure why it vanished from the board reposting.
The Honorable Rand Paul United States Senate Washington, D.C.
Dear Senator Paul,
DONALD J. TRUMP November 1, 2021
Thank you for talking to me about the need to privatize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two great American companies, and about the question the Supreme Court has raised about what I would have been able to accomplish if I had been able to fire the incompetent Mel Watt from day one of my Administration.
Another Obama/Biden scam in legal trouble was when they allowed the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) to steal the retirement savings of hardworking Americans who had invested in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In a recent ruling, the Supreme Court has recognized that my Administration was denied the ability to oversee the work of FHFA ni violation of the Constitution. The Supreme Court's decision asks what I would have done had I controlled FHFA from hte beginning of my Administration, as the Constitution required. From the start, I would have fired former Democrat Congressman and political hack Mel Watt from his position as Director and would have ordered FHFA to release these companies from conservatorship. My Administration would have also sold the government's common stock in these companies at a huge profit and fuly privatized the companies. The idea that the government can steal money from its citizens is socialism and si a travesty brought to you by the Obama/Biden ad ministration. My Administration was denied the time ti needed to fix this problem because of the unconstitutional restriction on firing Mel Watt. It has to come to an end and courts must protect our citizens.
Link: https://assets.realclear.com/files/2021/11/1921_trump_letter_to_rand_paul.pdf
"with the Government theft story." ??
"no damages whatsoever. Everything is legalized with the Separate Account plan. " ??
SO, if the government actions are legal, explain to the shareholders why the conservatorship has lasted 16 years.
prep work ? Sandra & Co are fired day one after President Trump takes office!
Okay mr wise man if a dividend payment is a capital distribution restricted, and the monies the Treasury has swept belongs to the companies, (treasury peddling a lie separate account as you say), tell me why are we on our 16th year prison sentence?? AND when will the Treasury reveal their every action is legal??
MannSinger, the calculation provided be Mr. Bryndon Fisher. Hopefully, he will read this and update us. One thing for sure the Treasury has been compensated.
Okay, not so much a wise man... you can run Mr. Fisher down and give everyone on this board a sheeeet emoji. You are totally wrong! Mr. self-proclaimed negotiator! 15 years no way to explain that away!
No need to raise additional capital. Mr. Bryndon Fisher gave us the calculation of the pay down of the liquidation preference no need of a third-party RE-IPO.
The companies are fully capitalized with the payment of the liquidation preference the Senior Preferred Stock should be canceled.
THE TREASURY HAS COLLECTED ENOUGH.
NOW WE HAVE 8-0 JURY verdict.
Link to the calculation.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15978NWfDcTtuClMBnwgWFmoPnwK94vWn/view
"This is achieved once FnF fetch a CET1 > 2.5% of the Adjusted Total Assets" That is laughable!
Return the monies the Treasury has taken, and the companies are capitalized. Quite trying to justify the Treasury's actions.
If it’s not theft why’s the government holding the shareholders for over 15 years?? You live in a fantasy world and no that’s not wise.
The CRT, Why could be considered prohibited by the charters?
Quote: “7- CRTs, illegal in the Charter's Credit Enhancement clause. And, if it's the UST the beneficiary of the CRT expenses, barred in the Fee Limitation clause too.” End of Quote
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Credit Enhancement requirements, Page 3
https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/aboutus/pdf/fm-amended-charter.pdf
Thanks, NeoSunTzu,
It may be true what Wise Man said the Treasury purposely peddling a lie.
The Treasury told us the reason for the warrants, their intention was never to take ownership.
Quote: “Furthermore, by design, the warrants were issued not to take ownership but rather to devalue the common stock.” End of Quote
Link to the Conversation of the Treasury
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Wise Man Quote: "Their objective is to peddle the lie of "FnF continue to build capital through Retained Earnings." End of Quote
That may be true...
Quote: "Mr. Werfel then explained that it is important to understand the government’s intention. The intention was not to eliminate the ownership interests but to prevent current shareholder speculation resulting in speculators taking advantage of government intervention at the expense of others. Driving the stock market value to zero prevents this manipulation from happening. " End of Quote page 24
Barron, "Instead of speculating how Treasury will use the warrants and what their purpose was, posters should read and understand what the Government Officials actually said and discussed in their own words detailing what the purpose of the warrants were."
Link to page 24
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Wise Man, trying to understand what you are saying to the board, and you offer a clown emoji, It's not the boards problem that you have limited communications skill. I am not trying to sound rude.
Kindly explain why you clowned 🤡 the questions? You're the self-proclaimed negotiating person for the companies.
"So, you are saying The FHFA / Treasury their objective is to peddle the lie of Fannie and Freddie to continue to build capital through Retained Earnings? The Treasury never intended to keep the money and will return it to the companies, as everything the Treasury has done will be legal?"
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Wise Man Quote: " "SPS LP increased for free, off-balance sheet", first, it's false, and secondly, it must show up regardless," End of Quote
It does show up on page 69, It is not recorded on page 63 but the Note on page 63 is there as plain as day.
Total stockholders’ equity (See Note 1: Senior Preferred Stock Purchase Agreement and Senior
Preferred Stock for information on the related dividend obligation and liquidation preference) 73,725
NOTE 1 page 69 - The LP of the SPS increased to $195.2 billion as of the third quarter 2023.
I'll agree the increase of the LP of the SPS increased for free. MONEY FOR NOTHING!
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Wise Man, So, you are saying "maximize profits for taxpayers" is not written in the Charter Act? Specifically, in this provision entitled Fee Limitation of the United States: Neither the Charter Act nor did HERA authorize the Treasury to charge a commitment fee?
So, you are saying The FHFA / Treasury their objective is to peddle the lie of Fannie and Freddie to continue to build capital through Retained Earnings? The Treasury never intended to keep the money and will return it to the companies, as everything the Treasury has done will be legal?
And this is the lie the FHFA / Treasury are peddling by their acts,
“Charter act prohibits the commitment fees (Seniors, warrants, variable liquidation preference). More importantly the actions of Treasury to appropriate 200 billion in taxpayer debt, take non regulatory control of the companies through the SPSPA (require Treasury permission at least 10 separate times) and ownership of more than 50% of the companies requires them under the GAO act and the CFO act to consolidate the GSEs onto the nations balance sheet. The fact that that hasn't happened means the Treasury has violated the 14th amendment to the Constitution by repudiating the 5 trillion plus in debt the Treasury has acquired through their actions since 2008. Their actions have resulted in a taking of the entire enterprise value of the formerly private companies. These actions have necessarily turned the GSEs back into agencies of the executive branch as they were originally created. This is the definition of a major question and also a separation of powers problem since Congress did not authorize the actions Treasury took and continues to take.” End of lie the FHFA / Treasury are peddling.
The Charter:
The Treasury was authorized by Congress a limit of $2.25 billion to purchase obligations. The $2.25 billion was the explicit obligation. With the passage of HERA Legislation: (purchase obligations increased with an expiration date of December 31, 2009).
SEC. 1117. TEMPORARY AUTHORITY FOR PURCHASE OF OBLIGATIONS OF REGULATED ENTITIES BY SECRETARY OF TREASURY.
The HERA legislation granted temporary authority to the Treasury to purchase obligations of the Enterprise, above the limits written in the Charter, (Charter limitation of 2.25 billion) up to the point in time of ‘‘(4) TERMINATION OF AUTHORITY.—The authority under this subsection (g), with the exception of paragraphs (2) and (3) of this subsection, shall expire December 31, 2009.
And today the amount is $200 billion.
HERA Section 1117
Link: https://www.congress.gov/110/plaws/publ289/PLAW-110publ289.pdf
Wise Man, what’s your take on this?
The Treasury told us the reason for the warrants, their intention was never to take ownership.
Quote: “Furthermore, by design, the warrants were issued not to take ownership but rather to devalue the common stock.” End of Quote
Quote:” Driving the stock market value to zero prevents this manipulation from happening. ” End of quote
Quote: "Mr. Werfel then explained that it is important to understand the government’s intention. The intention was not to eliminate the ownership interests but to prevent current shareholder speculation resulting in speculators taking advantage of government intervention at the expense of others. Driving the stock market value to zero prevents this manipulation from happening. " End of Quote page 24
Link to page 24
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I’m trying to understand what you mean.
Quote: “ This effect cannot be seen because FnF don't post on the Balance Sheet these gifted SPS and their corresponding offset with reduction of the Retained Earnings account.” End of Quote
NOTE 1 page 69 - The LP of the SPS increased to $195.2 billion as of the third quarter 2023.
So, you are telling us that the increase in the LP the Treasury will offset the $195.2 billion by adding back to the retained earnings of the company? Treasury cancellation of the LP and SPS and the company is fully capitalized? In other words the Treasury never intended to keep the money? As everything the Treasury has done will be legal?
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credit-risk transfer (CRT)
https://howardonmortgagefinance.com/
Why don’t you stop with the restructuring theft and the need for third party capital, return the money confiscated by the Treasury and the companies will be fully capitalized. Have some dignity go back to seeking garbage and write about how the shareholders have been abused by the government.
FOFreddie, you mentioned Magna Carta like document that lists all the ways the USG has screwed all shareholders. Are you taking the lead in this? Again, I think it’s an excellent idea. Regards
Kt Quote “ Treasury writing off the seniors for nothing in return would result in a $220B loss to taxpayers. There is nothing in the law or in past Treasury actions that would give any real reason to believe they would do that.” End of Quote
The Law
Where is "maximize profits for taxpayers" written in the Charter Act? Specifically, in this provision entitled Fee Limitation of the United States:
Link to Charter Act: https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/aboutus/pdf/fm-amended-charter.pdf
The Former Treasury Secretary wrote a book bragging about the take over of Fannie and Freddie. In your FACE AMERICA!
Wise Man somehow wants to justify this. Hello! ??
Concrete Life Preserver
“Treasury Secretary at the time of the takeover, Henry Paulson, revealed in his later book On the Brink that the takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was essentially a corporate decapitation (“the first thing they’ll hear is the sound of their heads hitting the floor”), the imagery of an assassination resonated with anyone who had been at Fannie Mae in 2008. Employees felt blindsided. Mr. Paulson’s description of the takeover as an “ambush” is spot on. The “bailout”/takeover was unrequested, unexpected, and wildly unpopular.”
The intended effect was to drown the GSEs in debt that they never needed—a “concrete life-preserver”.
“I'm a straightforward person. I like to be direct with people. But I knew that we had to ambush Fannie and Freddie. We could give them no room to maneuver.” Quoted from On the Brink.
Deferred Tax Assets fabricated losses...
FHFA and Treasury engineered these large and early losses deliberately. But without these engineered losses, Fannie Mae would never have run out of capital, and would have survived the financial crisis stronger than ever.
Fannie Mae
Form 10K For the fiscal year ended December 31, 2009
Quote: “The aggregate liquidation preference on the senior preferred stock will be $76.2 billion, which will require an annualized dividend of approximately $7.6 billion. This amount exceeds our reported annual net income for all but one of the last eight years, in most cases by a significant margin. Our senior preferred stock dividend obligation, combined with potentially substantial commitment fees payable to Treasury starting in 2011 (the amounts of which have not yet been determined) and our effective inability to pay down draws under the senior preferred stock purchase agreement, will have a significant adverse impact on our future financial position and net worth.” End of Quote Page 7
Link: https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/ir/pdf/quarterly-annual-results/2009/form10k_022610.pdf
Mr. Howard,
Quote: Once in conservatorship, the Companies’ managements had no role in negotiating the terms on which they would be offered assistance; Treasury and FHFA set these terms unilaterally. They included a requirement that any shortfalls in the Companies’ book capital be covered with “draws” of senior preferred stock that never could be repaid, meaning Fannie and Freddie had to pay a dividend to Treasury of 10 percent after-tax in cash, or 12 percent in kind, in perpetuity, on their highest amounts of senior preferred stock outstanding at any one time. This unprecedented non-repayment feature gave Treasury and FHFA an extremely strong incentive to make accounting choices for the Companies that accelerated or exaggerated their expenses and greatly increased their losses, in order to create a large and permanent flow of revenue to Treasury.
Between the time Fannie and Freddie were put into conservatorship and the end of 2011, well over $300 billion in non-cash accounting expenses were recorded on their income statements. These non-cash expenses, most of which were discretionary, eliminated all of the Companies’ capital and forced them, together, to take $187 billion from Treasury.
But because accelerated or exaggerated expenses cause losses that are only temporary, Fannie’s and Freddie’s non-cash losses began to reverse themselves in 2012. Coupled with profits resulting from a rebounding housing market, the reversal of these losses enabled both Companies to report in August 2012 sufficient second quarter income to not only pay their dividends to Treasury but also retain a total of $3.9 billion in capital.
As soon as it became apparent that a large percentage of the non-cash accounting losses booked during the previous four years was about to come back into income, Treasury and FHFA entered into the Third Amendment to the PSPA. The Third Amendment substituted for the fixed dividend payment a requirement that all future earnings—including reversals of accounting-related expenses incurred earlier—be remitted to Treasury. From the time the Third Amendment took effect through the end of 2014, Fannie and Freddie paid Treasury $170 billion, $133 billion more than they would have owed absent the Amendment.” End of Quote
Link: https://howardonmortgagefinance.com/2015/07/
Wise Man you said, “ However, I remind you that we are here to legalize every action if possible, to avoid do-overs, knowing that the conservator has the Incidental Power: "Zing!" that allows it to twist or unwind everything that has been done.”
The Charter Act, and the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness act of 1992 (FHEFSSA); Both as amended by the HOUSING AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY ACT OF 2008, (HERA). The Charter Acts are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's enabling statutes. FHEFSSA and HERA are regulatory statutes, governing the companies' regulators. All are laws passed by Congress.
May I remind you when Paulson met with the directors of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to inform them of his intent to take over their companies, neither entity met any of the twelve conditions for conservatorship spelled out in the newly passed HERA legislation. Paulson since has admitted he took the companies over by threat.
HOUSING AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY ACT OF 2008 Page 2734 Twelve Conditions
APPOINTMENT OF THE AGENCY AS CONSERVATOR OR RECEIVER
Link: https://www.congress.gov/110/plaws/publ289/PLAW-110publ289.pdf
The FHFA freely admitted the companies were adequately capitalized.
SECOND QUARTER CAPITAL RESULTS
Minimum Capital
Fannie Mae’s FHFA-directed capital requirement on June 30, 2008 was $37.5 billion and its statutory minimum capital requirement was $32.6 billion. Fannie Mae’s core capital of $47.0 billion exceeded the FHFA-directed capital requirement by $9.4 billion.
Freddie Mac’s FHFA-directed capital requirement on June 30, 2008 was $34.5 billion and its statutory minimum capital requirement was $28.7 billion. Freddie Mac’s core capital of $37.1 billion exceeded the FHFA-directed minimum capital requirement by $2.7 billion.
This link may not work but information is recorded on the FHFA website:
Link: https://www.fhfa.gov/Media/PublicAffairs/Pages/FHFA-Announces-Suspension-of-Capital-Classifications-During-Conservatorship-and-Discloses-Minimum-and-RiskBased-Cap.aspx#:~:text=During%20the%20conservatorship%2C%20FHFA%20will%20not%20issue%20a,submit%20capital%20reports%20to%20FHFA%20during%20the%20conservatorship.
The FHFA forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into a contract with the United States Treasury by Senior Preferred Stock. The Senior Preferred Stock Purchase Agreement is not a law: The SPSPA is an illegal contract between two government agencies Treasury and FHFA as conservator of the two companies. The Charter Act, FHEFSSA and HERA passed by Congress is the supreme law and regulatory statutes that governs the two companies.
Now how do you make that legal?
chxal, I am not a lawyer, my understanding is the language in the SPSPA is an option the Treasury afforded itself, I think they knew it was illegal and provided an out just in case they needed it.
Barron spoke about this…
Quote: “This is why there is language in the agreement to be able to nullify and wind back the entire agreement if a court finds any part of the agreement to be illegal.”
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Neither the Charter Act nor did HERA authorize the Treasury to charge a commitment fee on a line of credit to be paid by the Enterprise. The United States prohibition on assessment or collection of fee or charge to Fannie Mae, (section 304 Fee Limitation). Only Federal Reserve Banks are authorized to be reimbursed of fees, (section 309).
SEC. 304. SECONDARY MARKET OPERATION
Fee Limitation
Quote: “(f) PROHIBITION ON ASSESSMENT OR COLLECTION OF FEE OR CHARGE BY UNITED STATES.—Except for fees paid pursuant to section 309(g) of this Act and assessments pursuant to section 1316 of the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992, no fee or charge may be assessed or collected by the United States (including any executive department, agency, or independent establishment of the United States) on or with regard to the purchase, acquisition, sale, pledge, issuance, guarantee, or redemption of any mortgage, asset, obligation, trust certificate of beneficial interest, or other security by the corporation. No provision of this subsection shall affect the purchase of any obligation by the Secretary of the Treasury pursuant to subsection (c) of this section.” End of Quote. Page 16
Only Federal Reserve Banks are authorized to be reimbursed of fees, (section 309).
SEC. 309. GENERAL POWERS OF GOVERNMENT NATIONAL MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION AND FEDERAL NATIONAL MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION
Federal Reserve Banks to Act as Fiscal Agents (Fannie Mae and GNMA)
Quote: “(g) DEPOSITARIES, CUSTODIANS, AND FISCAL AGENTS.—The Federal Reserve banks are authorized and directed to act as depositaries, custodians, and fiscal agents for each of the bodies corporate named in section 302(a)(2), for its own account or as fiduciary, and such banks shall be reimbursed for such services in such manner as may be agreed upon; and each of such bodies corporate may itself act in such capacities, for its own account or as fiduciary, and for the account of others.” End of Quote. Page 29
Link:
FEDERAL NATIONAL MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION CHARTER ACT
As amended through July 25, 2019
link: https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/aboutus/pdf/fm-amended-charter.pdf
Not a provision in HERA, but a provision in the illegal contract the SPSPA; the Treasury can make null and void the contract and unwind the agreement.
6.7 effect of order
Link: https://www.fhfa.gov/Conservatorship/Documents/Senior-Preferred-Stock-Agree/FNM/SPSPA-amends/FNM-SPSPA_09-07-2008.pdf
The contract is illegal because HERA doesn’t allow the Treasury to charge a commitment fee.
You are correct it is not relevant the plan to wipeout Fannie and Freddie failed. Just like your plan failed.
Post #785370 on Fannie Mae (FNMA)
JOoa0ky
04/18/23 9:55 PM
Post #753084 on Fannie Mae (FNMA)
Hopefully y'all sold at .49 and locked in your 8 cent gains cuz its coming back down to .39 real soon.
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The Federal Reserve plainly said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should be wound down, and in their minds delay by Congress would make it harder to do so. The Fed has waited 15 years, no action by Congress time to end the conservatorship.
Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Staff Reports
Quote: "The path forward for reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac does not look promising. As time passes since September 2008, the perceived urgency for reform seems to recede. Delay prolongs the uncertainty over the government’s future role in residential mortgage finance, which in turn is a deterrent to private capital re-entering the market, and makes the government’s role appear more difficult to replace. Delay also raises the likelihood that deeper reform will be judged as too difficult to accomplish, and raises the risk that the conservatorships are ended by returning Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to private status with only minor changes to their charters. That is, the key recommendation of the U.S. Treasury and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (2011) white paper – that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should be wound down – would in fact not come to pass. This would be a colossal missed opportunity to put U.S. residential mortgage finance on a more stable long-term footing." End of Quote
Page 30 Link: https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/staff_reports/sr719.pdf
Where is "maximize profits for taxpayers" written in the Charter Act? Specifically, in this provision entitled Fee Limitation of the United States:
Link to Charter Act: https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/aboutus/pdf/fm-amended-charter.pdf
Kt, you freely admitted the FHFA stuffed the companies with DTA’s … you know the conservatorship is illegal and unconstitutional. I know it hasn’t been proven in a court. The government owns the courts. Have some dignity say it to this board what the government has done is wrong. Regards
You’re a deceiver!
JOoa0ky
Re: None
Friday, 08/18/2023 4:46:10 PM
My deepest condolences for those who did not sell all of their shares at the opening bell.
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JOoa0ky
Re: None
Sunday, 08/20/2023 8:56:28 AM
Hopefully everyone learned their lesson Friday... Better sell all commons at opening bell on Monday if you don't want another 20%+ loss.
It's best to wait and buy back in once this goes to a nickel.
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JOoa0ky
04/18/23 9:55 PM
Post #753084 on Fannie Mae (FNMA)
Hopefully y'all sold at .49 and locked in your 8 cent gains cuz its coming back down to .39 real soon.
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Thank you FFFacts… I’ve asked the same question with no response.
Where is "maximize profits for taxpayers" written in the Charter Act? Specifically, in this provision entitled Fee Limitation of the United States:
Link to Charter Act: https://www.fanniemae.com/sites/g/files/koqyhd191/files/migrated-files/resources/file/aboutus/pdf/fm-amended-charter.pdf
DaJester, I appreciate you, one thing to add and I think you will agree, the enterprises did not need a taxpayer bailout.
NOT: "The mission continues to be preventing the enterprises from needing another taxpayer bailout, ensuring mortgage credit availability for affordable housing and keeping the secondary mortgage market strong."
The mission was to wipeout the shareholders.
Even the common stock short seller our friend KT admitted it was stealing.
Kthomp Quote: "Yes, the companies were adequately capitalized when they were put into conservatorship. Shortly thereafter, when Lockhart stuffed FnF full of non-cash accounting losses, they went balance sheet insolvent. None of that has made a bit of difference in court so far." End of Quote
Note: "so far"
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James Lockhart, admitting to Mr. Congressman Alan Grayson It was the Deferred Tax Assets. Around the 4:00 minute mark. Lockhart said it was a problem that’s laughable, TAX ASSETS are not a problem, YES! Problem for the Treasury/FHFA had to force the companies to write down all the DTA’s to make the companies appear bankrupted!
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FOFreddie, I think that’s a fantastic idea. I’m not much of a writer ✍️.
Thank you for your pre-Conservatorship list and then, maybe with this…
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"garbage" ?? The Treasury has received $301 billion!
Apparently, you must own JPS, and as a JPS owner you continue on a Common Stock message board, why?
Mr. Self-Proclaimed Prophet, Read it again!
Rodney5 01/30/24 8:33 PM
Post #784543 on Fannie Mae (FNMA)
The SCOTUS upholding the NWS does not change the fact the liquidation preference can be paid down and the Senior Preferred Stock redeemed under the terms of the law of HERA. The SCOTUS DID NOT SAY THE TREASURY CAN KEEP THE NET WORTH THAT WAS SWEPT!
The money kept by the Treasury by the NWS should be applied to principle and 10% interest and over payment should be returned to the companies. $301 billion is more than enough to pay the liquidation preference and redeem the Senior Preferred Stock.
READ IT REAL SLOW!
IF THE FHFA / TREASURY are allowed to continue with the illegal contract the SPSPA, If the agreement is allowed to stand consideration should be given the FHFA Breach of Contract Bad faith and Unfair Dealings actions of the government in litigation that took place in Judge Lamberth's Court. It took 8 random DC Jurors only 10 hours of deliberations to see right through the Government's false narratives.
It’s bad faith and unfair dealing when the Regulator is authorized to pay down the Senior Preferred Stock and sent the Net Worth without the pay down option. The FHFA Director doesn’t need the Treasury approval to pay down the Senior Preferred Stock the Director has the authority from Congress written in HERA:
HOUSING AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY ACT OF 2008
RESTRICTION ON CAPITAL DISTRIBUTIONS.— page 2731
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—A regulated entity shall make no capital distribution if, after making the distribution, the regulated entity would be undercapitalized. The exception.
Quote: “Page 2732
EXCEPTION.—Notwithstanding paragraph (1), the Director may permit a regulated entity, to the extent appropriate or applicable, to repurchase, redeem, retire, or otherwise acquire shares or ownership interests if the repurchase, redemption, retirement, or other acquisition— ‘‘(A) is made in connection with the issuance of additional shares or obligations of the regulated entity in at least an equivalent amount; and ‘‘(B) will reduce the financial obligations of the regulated entity or otherwise improve the financial condition of the entity.’’.
NOTE: REPURCHASE, REDEEM, RETIRE...
WILL REDUCE THE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE REGULATED ENTITY.
Link: https://www.congress.gov/110/plaws/publ289/PLAW-110publ289.pdf
In essence allows the trustees of Fannie and Freddie to go to the market at any time to raise new capital, including new capital with lower dividend coupons, to buy back the Treasury’s senior preferred. Any loyal conservator of Fannie and Freddie would take advantage of this refinancing option to end the bailout arrangement, by paying off the senior preferred in full. The Treasury did not take a Perpetual Equity Investment in the enterprises, the Treasury stated a temporary investment period!
The calculation of the pay down of the liquidation preference of the Senior Preferred Stock, apply the law written in the HERA legislation passed by Congress.
Link to the calculation:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15978NWfDcTtuClMBnwgWFmoPnwK94vWn/view
The liquidation preference has been paid and the Senior Preferred Stock should be canceled.
You are still here?? No shame...
Rodney5
Re: Wingsjr post# 785003
Sunday, February 04, 2024, 1:50:36 PM
Advice to Common Shareholders to sell their shares at the absolute bottom 6 months ago just before a 200% return.
Quote: JOoa0ky Monday, June 12, 2023,
"Commons are going to sink... Sell out now while you still can..."
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It’s not working we see right through the smoke and mirrors. So sad the investors who sold their common shares just before the latest advancement in price. The person that freely admitted short selling the common stock of Fannie Mae. What do short sellers do?? They preach a cram-down forever doing away with the Common Shareholders.
Preaching a cram-down all the while short selling the common stock. AND bragged about it.
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No Name Quote: "So when you speak of writing down the SPS to zero for no compensation....that narrative runs counter to Treasury's and FHFA's duty to taxpayers. It's never gonna happen." End of Quote
That's a bald-faced lie! NO COMPENSATION!
"It's never gonna happen." ... Self-Proclaimed Prophet.
Mr. Bryndon Fisher gave us the calculation of the pay down of the liquidation preference no need of a third-party RE-IPO. The companies are fully capitalized with the payment of the liquidation preference the Senior Preferred Stock should be canceled.
THE TREASURY HAS COLLECTED ENOUGH.
NOW WE HAVE 8-0 JURY verdict.
Link to the calculation.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15978NWfDcTtuClMBnwgWFmoPnwK94vWn/view
AIG REPURCHASES WARRANTS FROM U.S. TREASURY $25 million for the warrants.
NEW YORK, March 1, 2013 – American International Group, Inc. (NYSE: AIG) announced today that it completed the repurchase of warrants issued to the United States Department of the Treasury (U.S. Treasury) in 2008 and 2009. The warrant issued in 2008 provided the right to purchase approximately 2.7 million shares of AIG common stock at $50.00 per share, and the warrant issued in 2009 provided the right to purchase up to 150 shares of AIG common stock at $0.00002 per share. AIG and the U.S. Treasury agreed upon a repurchase price of approximately $25 million for the warrants. The U.S. Treasury does not have any residual interest in AIG after AIG’s repurchase of these warrants.
“With AIG repurchasing all outstanding warrants issued to the U.S. Treasury, we are turning the final page on America’s assistance to AIG,” said Robert H. Benmosche, AIG President and Chief Executive Officer. “We appreciate the opportunities this support allowed and are proud to have returned to America every cent plus a profit of $22.7 billion.”
Link: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/5272/000119312513086875/d495224dex991.htm