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This link says CELLEX is pin prick
https://qz.com/1831438/what-does-it-mean-for-the-fda-to-authorize-a-coronavirus-test/
Well PRED are definitely further ahead than SOME people ie companies that are jumping on the bandwagon today and tomorrow etc
But they certainly aren't at the front because CELLEX are the first to get FDA approval for their pin prick test, so CELLEX are way ahead of PRED at this point in time.
If you can choose between an FDA approved kit and one that isn't approved I'm pretty sure most will chose the FDA one
So PRED needs to get that asap.
That test is a PCR test. PCR test is throat swab not pin prick so it's not PRED test
Also I don't see any mention of PRED on that page where did you get the info :
"Thermo's test, run by PRED.."
Where is that from ?
Yes indeed. Guess/bet/gamble
Yeah I’m pretty sure everyone and their brother will be selling these kits (kinda already happening)
There will be plenty of demand to go around. I'm sure PRED will get some sales in. But HOW MANY clearly depends on who has their ducks in a row and what connections they have.
If someone gets to sell them on Amazon they will be able to sell way more than others. So it’s pretty key to find out what this amazon thermo fisher thing is all about.
It seems some are guessing that the test kits being discussed between amazon and thermo fisher are PREDs.
A huge claim so how can we verify this ?
A 112 Billion dollar company is gonna buy a kit from a 400 million dollar company?
When thermo can just buy the kit direct from Dablood themselves ? It's not like PRED has any exclusivity agreement with Dablood. I can buy the kits direct myself if I want to.
Hard to believe
Is the Thermo Fisher test PREDs test, or do Thermo have their own test ?
That link says the cellex test has been approved by the fda? Can you confirm that?
Last I heard the fda didn’t officially approve of any tests. They are merely permitting people to sell them so long as they are labeled correctly ie fda doesn’t guarantee the results use at own risk something like that
So have things changed ?
Right yeah very nice find. Thanks
There are quite a few of these pin prick tests going around. Why do you think Yikon's is significant ?
Do you have reason to believe it's from Daan/Darui/Dabo ?
I'm feeling confused. Not sure why that link has go you so excited. I would have thought today's PR and stock price jump would be more exciting than a link.
OK I just went back and checked all the links in all the posts today and couldn't find anything about 100,000 kits or 3 week restock time
A link would be very helpful
Thanks
Not PREDs website ?
Then whose ?
I'm not finding anything about 100,000 kits or 3 weeks to stock
A link would be helpful
" They only have 100,000 kits to ship and its 3 weeks to restock."
Where is this info ? I haven't seen any claims anywhere that they have 100,000 kits to ship
That 38 million number has yet to be proven
Best number I find so far was ten million and that was combined for ALL companies in Guangzhou
What about this $35 test for sale online ? :
"HUMAN 15 MINUTE ACCURATE, AFFORDABLE AND RELIABLE FINGER PRICK CORONA VIRUS COVID-19 BLOOD TEST
This test kit detects both early marker and late-stage markers, IgM and IgG Antibodies in a human blood sample. Results are given in under 15 minutes."
http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/03/31/2009149/0/en/Applied-BioSciences-Begins-Offering-Coronavirus-Test-Kit-to-the-General-Public-to-Combat-Spread-of-COVID-19.html
https://remedishop.com/product/coronavirus-test-kit/
Is Amazon getting into home test kits now ?
https://www.engadget.com/2020-03-23-amazon-care-to-deliver-covid-19-test-kits-seattle.html
COVID tests already for sale in the USA for $35 ?
https://remedishop.com/product/coronavirus-test-kit/
Yeah looks like UK government have bought a bunch of wondfoo
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-01/a-million-covid-19-test-kits-are-arriving-in-the-coming-week-but-will-they-be-deployed-to-hospitals/
I’m pretty sure wondfoo is on the government approved list for kits
If my memory serves me correctly
That’s an interesting link
/wondfoo
Wondfoo is a different company all together. Shouldnt the link be /dablood or /dabo or something ?
Weird
Why would they buy from PRED when they can buy direct from daan/darui/dablood ?
Based on the news reports I think people would by from a UK company any time over a chinese product
Higher or lower price UK will be preferred by many
No way UK will make anything that’s junk
Here's the list of 19 Australia Gov approved covid test kits
https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-test-kits-included-artg-legal-supply-australia
Article about people trying to sell them directly
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/coronavirus-at-home-test-kits-selling-in-the-chinese-community/12095658
More bad kits sent back. Not just Spain
Don't know whose kits they were yet
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/faulty-virus-tests-cloud-china-s-european-outreach-over-covid-19
Are there any medical professionals here ?
"According to the diagnostic criteria, 89 patients were confirmed with
2019-nCoV nucleic acid positive diagnosis, and 189 were 2019-nCoV nucleic acid acid-negative suspected patients ...... For suspected patients with negative 2019 -nCoV nucleic acid, the positive rates of IgM and IgG were 59.8% (113/189) and 52.9% (100/189), respectively, and the positive rate of IgM combined with IgG detection was 66.1% (125/ 189)."
Can anyone translate this into laymans terms ?
89 had corona and 189 didn't have it ?
What exactly did I do ? I just asked questions and posed theories
From what I can see, these kits are manufactured by Daan/Darui/Dabo - not sure who exactly takes the credit for manufacturing at this point
I might get a friend to visit the factory
Nice !
BODYSPHERE LONG !!!
Too bad for PRED
I would really like to be kept updated on that situation if possible.
Surely a Doctor calling to place an order wouldn't be ignored?
Please post updates here regarding that situation.
Thanks in advance
Yep that would all be AMAZING info
The phone call is no longer relevant now that we FINALLY have some objective evidence of the PRED Dablood relationship.
Feel free to call Dablood yourself though. The number posted on their website just rings and rings for me. Even if you can't speak Chinese just see if anyone ever picks up the phone. That would be progress.
I am not here to give stock buying advice, just trying to verify or refute what PRED says.
I would really love to know who will PRED give the money to ? Why aren't Daan doing this deal directly ? What does the actual kit look like ? (because the pics show a DIFFERENT testing method to what Daan got approved for). How can Dablood do 1.5 million per day ? Who sold 38 million kits already Dablood or Daan ? Why did one news article say that 10 million were sold between ALL suppliers in Guangzhou (ALL the huge companies sales figures COMBINED) ? If all these suppliers are complaining of inability to get raw materials, then 1.5 million per day capability means nothing. You can only produce as fast as the materials come in the door. Even if you have sales and orders, no materials means no net profit.
There's still too many holes here for me personally to make any decision to invest or short. Everyone should do their own due diligence.
Another thing, just from a spitball point of view, is Abbot. Looks to me like they are way ahead of the game. Seems to me they might be able to roll out their tests really fast. So another thing to consider is who is gonna get there first ? Once someone has been tested and confirmed to have the virus they are no longer a potential customer correct ?
Potential customers are those who haven't been infected yet. Theoretically testing negative means you probably will test again. So all the negative testers are fair game and potential clients for the kits. But when you look at the worldwide numbers of confirmed cases going up, everyday that PRED doesn't have kits in stock ready to ship/sell that's lost sales. So they might be a bit late to the party.
I've got some catching up to do :))
"Yeah saw that too, good find. They are approved for export, fits well with my theory that Dablood is primarily focused on export only. PRED's reference to China domestic approval must be with DaAn Gene. Wish they would clarify."
Would you mind sharing why you say Dablood are approved for export ?
I have reason to believe they don't do any export whatsoever and I would like to confirm whether my findings are true or not.
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I have created this signature below in order to avoid repeating myself :
My focus is proving or disproving what was written in Predictive Technologies recent PR
The relationship between Dablood and Predictive Technologies - is it real ? The PR isn't enough evidence for me I need OTHER sources to verify it's true
Please don't say "it's all in the PR" - I want objective sources
Specifics include :
1) Have Dablood really sold 38 million kits ? - Show me evidence (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
2) Can Dablood really do 1.5 million kits per day ? The last thing on the internet was their upgrade Jan 31 to 20,000 per day. How did they jump to 1.5 million per day in a couple months during the worst pandemic and lock down in China when companies like Apple couldn't even get their regular manufacturing going never mind upgrade it. - Evidence please (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
We also recently saw a news release stating DAAN can produce up to 500,000 per day (one third of the claimed Dablood 1.5million production). Why can DAAN only produce 500,000 per day but one of their tiny subsiduaries' subsidiaries can do triple ?
3) Why aren't Dablood on the China government list of 19 approved test makers. If their are "on" the list through their minor indirect stake holder Daan then why is Daan application for a different testing method than what is displayed on the Dablood test box labelling ?
4) Why aren't Dablood OR Predictive Technologies on the FDA list of approved makers for USA market ?
5) Why did Dablood do a press release boasting about entering European markets, Korea and Japan but never mentioned the USA ? (Please don't tell me it's all in the Predictive Technologies PR - I need OTHER objective sources of information)
What is your statement based on ?
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I have created this signature below in order to avoid repeating myself :
My focus is proving or disproving what was written in Predictive Technologies recent PR
The relationship between Dablood and Predictive Technologies - is it real ? The PR isn't enough evidence for me I need OTHER sources to verify it's true
Please don't say "it's all in the PR" - I want objective sources
Specifics include :
1) Have Dablood really sold 38 million kits ? - Show me evidence (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
2) Can Dablood really do 1.5 million kits per day ? The last thing on the internet was their upgrade Jan 31 to 20,000 per day. How did they jump to 1.5 million per day in a couple months during the worst pandemic and lock down in China when companies like Apple couldn't even get their regular manufacturing going never mind upgrade it. - Evidence please (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
We also recently saw a news release stating DAAN can produce up to 500,000 per day (one third of the claimed Dablood 1.5million production). Why can DAAN only produce 500,000 per day but one of their tiny subsiduaries' subsidiaries can do triple ?
3) Why aren't Dablood on the China government list of 19 approved test makers. If their are "on" the list through their minor indirect stake holder Daan then why is Daan application for a different testing method than what is displayed on the Dablood test box labelling ?
4) Why aren't Dablood OR Predictive Technologies on the FDA list of approved makers for USA market ?
5) Why did Dablood do a press release boasting about entering European markets, Korea and Japan but never mentioned the USA ? (Please don't tell me it's all in the Predictive Technologies PR - I need OTHER objective sources of information)
Here's the letter they issued about the tests Spain sent back
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/shenzhen-bioeasy_letter-of-statement-activity-6649496185134559232-HCfv
They belong to Shenzhen Bioeasy
http://en.bioeasy.com.tr
They issued a letter saying they probably werent used correctly and will replace them and provide better documentation on how to use them
Nothing about PRED in that news link
"It has not been approved by the FDA"
So it's possible they are selling a pregnancy test.
If I knew someone who confirmed had covid I would buy a few tests and see if it works myself. That would be interesting. I could confirm for myself if the test works or not.
4 hours until Dablood opens. Hopefully they answer the phone this time
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I have created this signature below in order to avoid repeating myself :
My focus is proving or disproving what was written in Predictive Technologies recent PR
The relationship between Dablood and Predictive Technologies - is it real ? The PR isn't enough evidence for me I need OTHER sources to verify it's true
Please don't say "it's all in the PR" - I want objective sources
Specifics include :
1) Have Dablood really sold 38 million kits ? - Show me evidence (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
2) Can Dablood really do 1.5 million kits per day ? The last thing on the internet was their upgrade Jan 31 to 20,000 per day. How did they jump to 1.5 million per day in a couple months during the worst pandemic and lock down in China when companies like Apple couldn't even get their regular manufacturing going never mind upgrade it. - Evidence please (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
We also recently saw a news release stating DAAN can produce up to 500,000 per day (one third of the claimed Dablood 1.5million production). Why can DAAN only produce 500,000 per day but one of their tiny subsiduaries' subsidiaries can do triple ?
3) Why aren't Dablood on the China government list of 19 approved test makers. If their are "on" the list through their minor indirect stake holder Daan then why is Daan application for a different testing method than what is displayed on the Dablood test box labelling ?
4) Why aren't Dablood OR Predictive Technologies on the FDA list of approved makers for USA market ?
5) Why did Dablood do a press release boasting about entering European markets, Korea and Japan but never mentioned the USA ? (Please don't tell me it's all in the Predictive Technologies PR - I need OTHER objective sources of information)
More valid points
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I have created this signature below in order to avoid repeating myself :
My focus is proving or disproving what was written in Predictive Technologies recent PR
The relationship between Dablood and Predictive Technologies - is it real ? The PR isn't enough evidence for me I need OTHER sources to verify it's true
Please don't say "it's all in the PR" - I want objective sources
Specifics include :
1) Have Dablood really sold 38 million kits ? - Show me evidence (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
2) Can Dablood really do 1.5 million kits per day ? The last thing on the internet was their upgrade Jan 31 to 20,000 per day. How did they jump to 1.5 million per day in a couple months during the worst pandemic and lock down in China when companies like Apple couldn't even get their regular manufacturing going never mind upgrade it. - Evidence please (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
We also recently saw a news release stating DAAN can produce up to 500,000 per day (one third of the claimed Dablood 1.5million production). Why can DAAN only produce 500,000 per day but one of their tiny subsiduaries' subsidiaries can do triple ?
3) Why aren't Dablood on the China government list of 19 approved test makers. If their are "on" the list through their minor indirect stake holder Daan then why is Daan application for a different testing method than what is displayed on the Dablood test box labelling ?
4) Why aren't Dablood OR Predictive Technologies on the FDA list of approved makers for USA market ?
5) Why did Dablood do a press release boasting about entering European markets, Korea and Japan but never mentioned the USA ? (Please don't tell me it's all in the Predictive Technologies PR - I need OTHER objective sources of information)
Theranos had a lot more going for it than PRED does
Facts are great
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I have created this signature below in order to avoid repeating myself :
My focus is proving or disproving what was written in Predictive Technologies recent PR
The relationship between Dablood and Predictive Technologies - is it real ? The PR isn't enough evidence for me I need OTHER sources to verify it's true
Please don't say "it's all in the PR" - I want objective sources
Specifics include :
1) Have Dablood really sold 38 million kits ? - Show me evidence (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
2) Can Dablood really do 1.5 million kits per day ? The last thing on the internet was their upgrade Jan 31 to 20,000 per day. How did they jump to 1.5 million per day in a couple months during the worst pandemic and lock down in China when companies like Apple couldn't even get their regular manufacturing going never mind upgrade it. - Evidence please (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
We also recently saw a news release stating DAAN can produce up to 500,000 per day (one third of the claimed Dablood 1.5million production). Why can DAAN only produce 500,000 per day but one of their tiny subsiduaries' subsidiaries can do triple ?
3) Why aren't Dablood on the China government list of 19 approved test makers. If their are "on" the list through their minor indirect stake holder Daan then why is Daan application for a different testing method than what is displayed on the Dablood test box labelling ?
4) Why aren't Dablood OR Predictive Technologies on the FDA list of approved makers for USA market ?
5) Why did Dablood do a press release boasting about entering European markets, Korea and Japan but never mentioned the USA ? (Please don't tell me it's all in the Predictive Technologies PR - I need OTHER objective sources of information)
Yes I'm also looking forward to the follow up PR too. But I'm expecting it to be vague and unsubstantiated like the first one
Dablood should open for business in a few hours. Hope they answer the phone finally
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I have created this signature below in order to avoid repeating myself :
My focus is proving or disproving what was written in Predictive Technologies recent PR
The relationship between Dablood and Predictive Technologies - is it real ? The PR isn't enough evidence for me I need OTHER sources to verify it's true
Please don't say "it's all in the PR" - I want objective sources
Specifics include :
1) Have Dablood really sold 38 million kits ? - Show me evidence (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
2) Can Dablood really do 1.5 million kits per day ? The last thing on the internet was their upgrade Jan 31 to 20,000 per day. How did they jump to 1.5 million per day in a couple months during the worst pandemic and lock down in China when companies like Apple couldn't even get their regular manufacturing going never mind upgrade it. - Evidence please (Not the Predictive Technologies PR)
We also recently saw a news release stating DAAN can produce up to 500,000 per day (one third of the claimed Dablood 1.5million production). Why can DAAN only produce 500,000 per day but one of their tiny subsiduaries' subsidiaries can do triple ?
3) Why aren't Dablood on the China government list of 19 approved test makers. If their are "on" the list through their minor indirect stake holder Daan then why is Daan application for a different testing method than what is displayed on the Dablood test box labelling ?
4) Why aren't Dablood OR Predictive Technologies on the FDA list of approved makers for USA market ?
5) Why did Dablood do a press release boasting about entering European markets, Korea and Japan but never mentioned the USA ? (Please don't tell me it's all in the Predictive Technologies PR - I need OTHER objective sources of information)