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How about, "the American Army should have protected him from enjoying living in Saudi Arabia for the last 10 years". And Bush secretly told Rumsfeld to tell the Army to make Paul Johnson stay in Saudi Arabia so he would get his head sawed off, which in turn, allowed dudes at Halliburton to recieve a larger year-end bonus.
I think of how the left has been attacking Bush for his "mishandling" of 911.
Today I read this and my head hurts when I consider debating the blinded by hate left and their failed logic.
ASTANA, Kazakhstan (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said Friday his government warned Washington that Saddam Hussein's regime was preparing attacks in the United States and its interests abroad.
How do you figure they are going spin this as Bush's fault?
We should have a contest to see who figures it out first.
How about one would blames certain organizations like the Boy Scouts, Catholics and American soldiers while ignoring the fact which is they are homosexual men (by definition) who learned long ago why Willie Sutton robbed banks and where to find the “late teenage” boys between the ages of 15 to 18?
American boys between the ages of 15 to 18 are put to death for crimes by American justice and she's making war time arguments against American soldiers over why "these children are in jail"?
More of the "blame America first" affliction.
It's appalling. I also have to question why children(that's plural) are being held in that prison
When what we really heard was "a boy, aged between 15 and 18, at the prison.
"evidence" AK? A bad lawyer would laugh at this "evidence".
One former prisoner told the newspaper He also said he saw an Army translator having sex with a boy, aged between 15 and 18, at the prison.
Funny, I saw the pictures and the names of the "other former inmates who made the other allegations", saw them talking to ABC about the abuse which occured. However this accusers is a One former prisoner?
The One former prisoner who told the newspaper "sheets were hung around the cell to block any viewpoint," but he climbed to get a better look when he heard screams.
So he saw it or heard it? Or did he just know what he heard so was sure he saw what he believe behind the curtains?
Hamlet, what are you reading? "words, just words".
Yet, on such words, one American makes arguments against American Soldiers during wartime.
In my wildest dreams I could not conceive of a better example of a "blame America first" logic.
DDF, maybe the problem is "war is no longer hell". You think the Romans would have had these "terrorist troubles"? Sherman taught America that the "cruelness of war and the more cruel the better" is the best way to bring about a rapid conclusion to a war.
Sherman would have forever solved the Fallujah problem by burning it and the terrorist al-Zarqawi to the ground.
Today's political correctness limits our ability to defend ourselves and seems to embolden cowards, otherwise known as "terrorists", otherwise known as an unemployment young man with too much time on his hands.
He’s very intelligent, one of America’s best orators, and a true statesman.
He’s very comfortable with himself and finds no need to talk shit on others. I too was angry he didn't speak at Reagan's funeral. If Bush wins, I will(might) vote for Hillary in 2008, (as long as she leaves my guns alone).
I didn’t spend my 90ies talking shit on Clinton as I won’t spend the rest of this decade talking shit on Kerry if he wins. I’m American, I vote, I know how to win and more importantly, I know how to lose. My father told me this is what it is to "be an American".
Call me weird..
I like Clinton.
I want to see any further evidence of the "raping of children" in Iraqi jails.
Funny, you know what I think, I believe a Iraqi woman said she heard this "rape" and I believe the odds are better she saw two gay American soldiers and was too disgusted to even understand what she saw.
And I don't think I'm reaching here, the senate spoke photos of orgies in the jail.
Yeah, what American society need today is more breasts on Prime-Time TV and gay marriage.
DDF, this is the second time Sara made arguments against you of “Iraqi children being raped”? This may be the best example of how the right and the left's ideology are oceans apart.
I heard the allegations of someone “hearing” the sounds of a young boy being raped behind a curtain. Yet, to this day have those allegations been substantiated by anyone, any photos, any witnesses or any further evidence. I have not seen a boy come forward, no soldier came forward to tell of this crime, no photos, no rapist and not one other Iraqi came forward that saw or even heard this boy being raped. This could have been one of the very worst crimes imaginable at the prison but it has never been substantiated. Yet an American named Sara uses this argument when debating our soldier's actions during war time.
This is the meat of all my certainty of correctness when I argument with many radicals.
It’s beyond my conception to ever make an argument against another American based on allegations American Soldiers are allegedly “raping children” in Iraqi jails.
I don't, and never will default to rapists as the character of our American Soldiers, forever, period, whether a Republican or a Democrat is in office.
What's funny is One and a two dozen other people followed me here from Raging Bull during a couple of days back in 2001.
Well, actually I told them about IHUB and asked them to follow.
"I will reply to you this once."
Yeah you're right, no chip there.
You all should be perfectly balanced like me, I have no prejudice or chips. I hate everyone equally. B-)
I don't have to, he still has a chip on his shoulder over a private message we had a couple months back where I took great interest in his health.
Since that time I've apologized to him public many times to no avail, I have no reason to think he will do anything more than what he's been doing with me for the last couple months, which is....holding a grudge.
Viv, I think I'm a gonna start posting here, I expect all my radical, hate filled, left-wing, liberal friends who greatly hate me to post here too.
Viv, you can't ban anyone or delete any posts, ok?
I suggust a new board.
http://investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=1875
Don’t know how happy I am with this change, seems the only thing consistent about you is you have had a problem with both me and Sara as of late.
I post my political thoughts here and exclusively here because there was no moderator. Now your here to moderate me and/or Sara?
I’m sure you also know how I feel about bans or limiting one's ability to post what they believe or feel and that includes Sara and her nutty campers. B-)
Don't you delete anything or ban anyone here One... B-)
Matt, why has the header and the moderator of the GOV thread changed?
Why has the header and the moderator of this thread changed?
Tenet Resigns as C.I.A. Director; 3 Harsh Reports on Agency Due
By ELISABETH BUMILLER and DOUGLAS JEHL
WASHINGTON, June 3
current and former intelligence officials noted that Mr. Tenet was anticipating heavy criticism from three reports expected to assail the agency either over its failure to detect the Sept. 11, 2001, terror plot or the assessments that Iraq possessed unconventional weapons before the American invasion last year.
AK, I think of this moronic post and how the hateful posters here wish not engauge in honest debate in favor having it both ways.
I do believe Tenet had had enough. How much can one guy take.
Tenet, the Clinton appointed hold-over, resigned before this report came out. Or did you think Bush was collecting this "central intelligence"?
Ironically I think a democrat might freak-out and go ballistic if we are attacked in a large way during a democratic administration.
Democrats may (and should) correctly believe that it would be the party's best opportunity to forever end the belief that democrats are soft on National security, and what better way is there to endear the other political party?
Man the next few decades are going to be a dozy, hope we all make it through them.
DDF the radicals here are ignoring the simple fact, "we are at war and in danger".
Leaving Iraq, Janet Jackson's nipple, gay marriages or a man named Kerry in the White House will do nothing to change this. In fact I think the odds are greater the terrorists will be more bold and we will witness even greater attacks if a democrat gains the White House next fall.
The core of our entire debate here is how should we react to people trying to kill us. Terrorists will keep trying to kill Americans and are being validated daily by today's politcally dishonest, win the White House at all cost, appeasers.
The dishonest ideology of today's radical liberal is nothing new. They are no different than the Hitler supporters of the thirties who needed someone, something or some religion, to blame for their post WW2 troubles.
Radicals have historically rationalized their blaming of the victims for being attacked by aggressors. When in truth they are motivated by little more than simple hatred.
A great danger to the world has begun in Saudi Arabia and the world is blind to it.
Many times I've posted stories my life long buddy, world traveler and Boeing "I teach your countrymen how to fix your planes" employee, told me.
He loves to travel and has gone nearly everywhere in the world where there are planes. He has told me how lazy Saudis are, he told me how they imported people from across the world to do their work.
My friend traveled at least once a year to Saudi Arabia to teach Saudis how to fix Saudi Arabian planes. He told me the Saudis where so lazy that they would send their Filipino servants to learn when he was there and nothing would ever get taught.
Fat lazy and Civil war ripe
Al-Qaida just kidnapped an American in Saudi Arabia, the totalitarian Saudi government knew it was going to happened and where unable to stop it. Will they saw his head off?
A civil war in Saudi Arabia or a simple exodus of foreigner workers from Saudi Arabia could and will shut down Saudi Arabian oil production. What will we do, what should we do? At the end of the day the only real question is, "are we at war"?
I believe this to be a critical read for all
The War on Terror Just Got Worse
Tuesday, June 15, 2004
By Bill O'Reilly
Hi, I'm Bill O'Reilly. Thank you for watching us tonight.
The war on terror just got worse. That's the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo." Well, it didn't take "The New York Times" long to get back in the swing. The paper took a breather for the Reagan funeral, but today was right back on page one with another Abu Ghraib (search) story. That makes 43 front-page stories on the Iraqi prisoner abuse in the past 47 days. By contrast, the more objective "Chicago Tribune" has run 27 front-page stories.
"The New York Times", of course, is using the prisoner story to hammer the Bush administrationand will continue to do so, but here's the unintended consequence of that. By creating hysteria over Abu Ghraib, the much more important war on terror story has almost vanished from the news pages.
In Iran, thousands of people have signed up for suicide attacks on coalition forces and possibly onthe U.S. mainland, according to the Reuters news agency. A group called the Committee for the Commemoration of Martyrs of the Global Islamic Campaign sponsored a conference and signed up the killers, all with the apparent approval of the Iranian government.
"The New York Times" did not cover this story. And most other American news agencies ignored it as well. Last week's unbelievable dog and pony show by Senators Kennedy and Biden once again placed the blame of Abu Ghraib on the Bush administration. And the senators did everything they could to mandate no coercive interrogations of suspected terrorists.
Meantime, foreign governments are encouraging suicide killers, and we are the targets. There's no question that America is not prepared to fight this terror war. We don't have enough troops in Iraq. We don't have the resolve back home. And we have a partisan media that refuses to tell the truth. We Americans are in more danger than at any other time in our history.
Terrorists are trying to take over the governments of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, the Philippines,Indonesia, and Afghanistan. Terrorists already control Syria and Iran. Both Pakistan and Iran have or willhave nuclear weapon capability. Figure it out.
Yet it's all Abu Ghraib, all the time in much of the American media, politics once again trumping your security. The war against Islamic fascists is a story for our times. This is the big one. This is the one that could end your life and the lives of your children. We need to wise up and toughen up. And President Bush may take a strong leadership role here. If Iran has signed up thousands of suicide killers, then something needs to be said and eventually done, now.
And that's "The Memo."
The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day
Time now for "The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day"...
The International Red Cross (search), which is, well, kind of soft on terrorism, is demanding that Saddam Hussein either be released or charged by June 30, the handover day. The Red Cross apparently believes that once the new Iraqi government takes over, the USA has no legal authority over Saddam. Now I think we all admire the International Red Cross's compassion toward a vicious killer and this is just another example of how politicized the International Red Cross has become. It's not only ridiculous, it's embarrassing.
--You can watch Bill O'Reilly's "Talking Points Memo" and "Most Ridiculous Item" weeknights at 8 & 11p.m. ET on the Fox News Channel. Send your comments to: oreilly@foxnews.com
3.8 mi SSW of Agoura Hills, CA
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It was a 4.5
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/shakemap/sc/shake/
Not up there yet, I'm figuring it was a 3.5
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/bulletin.html
Earthquake
divisiveness=diverseness
Republicans begin their week with encouraging, less divisive posts of a Republican president speaking kindly of a Democrat.
Radicals continue their cyber life the same way they spent their weekend. Posting discouragement and highlighting diverseness.
Bush pays rare tribute to Clinton
WASHINGTON (AFP) - In a rare election-year political truce, US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) warmly paid tribute to Bill Clinton (news - web sites) and even plugged his forthcoming memoirs at his formal White House portrait unveiling.
"Bill Clinton showed incredible energy and great personal appeal. As chief executive, he showed a deep and far-ranging knowledge of public policy, a great compassion for people in need, and the forward-looking spirit that Americans like in a president," Bush said in a speech at the ceremony.
Bush and First Lady Laura Bush sat with Clinton, first-lady-turned Senator Hillary Clinton (news - web sites) and their daughter Chelsea as the former first couple's individual portraits were unveiled before being hung in the White House.
Bush said that Clinton's rise from humble beginnings in the rural state of Arkansas "took more than charm and intellect. It took hard work and drive and determination and optimism."
"I can tell you more of the story, but it's coming out in fine bookstores all over America," Bush quipped, a reference to Clinton's memoirs, "My Life," which comes out June 22.
"The president, by his generous words to Hillary and me today, has proved once again that in the end, we are held together by this grand system of ours that permits us to debate and struggle and fight for what we believe is right," said Clinton.
The upbeat, friendly exchange came after a week of mourning for former president Ronald Reagan (news - web sites), and as Clinton seemed ready to retake the spotlight he reluctantly gave up three years ago with his book tour.
"My Life" enjoys a record 1.5 million copy first printing. Publishers Alfred A. Knopf paid Clinton an advance of more than 10 million dollars for the 957-page autobiography.
In the coming weeks, the former president has planned a barrage of interviews with top US celebrity journalists to tout the book.
Clinton, who left office in January 2001 after serving two terms, also is planning an extravaganza in his hometown of Little Rock, Arkansas in November to mark the opening of the William J. Clinton Presidential Center.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1506&u=/afp/20040614/ts_alt_afp/us_vote_clinton_bu....
Plus they come in plum pretty colors to boot and such.
They are really great because you can put solvent on them and the fellers there told me you can clean them by putting them in a cloth bag and throwing them the wash.
Plus you can hang them from the top corner of your gun case.
Don't get the ones for handguns, get the longer ones for rifles and you can use them on handguns too.
They put the caliber on the brass end and one will work for many common calibers,
I got one for that works for my 22, 223 rifles and handguns
I got one that works for my 30-30, 30-06 and 7mmm rifles
I got one that works for my 45-70, 458 rem. mag rifles and my 44 mag. and 45 acp and LC handguns.
Finally got a new dog.
yes
My county had their gun show this last weekend. I went and finally bought one (I mean 4) of these gunsnakes for cleaning hoglegs, scatterguns and such.
I'm very happy with the purchase.