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There might be...
But I doubt anyone knows any more than you or I.
140k
Look like someone desperate to get in...
Volume being so low right now, they were forced to buy higher to get the shares they wanted.
Not sure why you believe that?
I've traded SLTD several times, and although I would consider myself a momentum trader, I would definitely not hold SLTD every time it goes up just to watch it consolidate back down. Maybe it depends upon how much you are investing... I invested over 50k, so watching a 25k gain go bye bye is unacceptable. Were all here to make $$ and to each his or her own on how they do it...
I wish they would ban pumpers
And haters....so tiring reading all the garbage. No substance regarding anything, just over the top BS if you want to pump, at least pump with some current events re solar.
Morgan Stanley solar outlook
dude quit pumping!!!
JOB has 25M shares O/S not 340M. SLTD is a good stock but it will not go from .18 to 2.00 in 20 days... Is there one thing you ever say that is not just complete and utter BS pumping?
agreed
LOL I hope I didn't hurt no feelings...
My words were hurtful...
What fun would that be... WE have to have something to entertain us while things simmer.
Now go away and quit being a party pooper.
SOPW now has 544M shares O/S
And is still trading at $2.00. Makes me feel a little better about SLTD and their 340M shares. WE just need panel news to make it happen...
$4.00 minimum for the NASDAQ and I believe $2.00 minimum for the NYSE. I think we should shoot for the NYSE being that we are far from $4.00PPS. For the NYSE we need 50M market cap, 15M of public float (Not including shares held by insiders) and 4M in shareholders equity.
I would not do a PR either...
At the end of the year while everyone is selling for tax purposes... I full well expect a PR around the first week of January though. Will it be monumental news? Who knows.
Well that is my hope also....
PLUG, SLTD, REV SPLIT, COMPARISONS...
Alright folks, lets stop with the comparisons of PLUG and SLTD. The only thing these two companies have in common is they are both in energy.
I understand that everyone is thinking that SLTD could pull a PLUG and go from .20-10.00 per share. There was a constellation of events that sent PLUG to that price.
1. At the time, PLUG had a low float and did not yet have 100M shares outstanding
2. They already had some high profile customers.
3. They made the Wal-Mart announcement
4. They made the Fedex announcement
5. They had huge short interest with their low float.
SLTD pretty much has none of the above. We have no big corporations that we work with, we have a huge float, our short interest is almost non existent. This is not to say that it cannot be done, it just is saying we have a lot more to do in order to get there. The only way SLTD goes from where it is now to over $10.00 is if they announce a partnership for the cell with a large panel manufacturer. The only other way you are going to see that price is with a R/S. A R/S in my mind is not ideal, but it is very good if used correctly. I think JN would use a R/S correctly and yes it would mean that your share count would dwindle, but it would also mean that SLTD could get off the OTC and trade with the big boys.
My Mac does the same darn thing :-\
Plug was already on the NASDAQ although I have no idea how they were able to stay there. I would hope he would wait, and although he has said no R/S in the past, he is going to do what is best for the company before doing what is best for us. He knows being listed on the NAS is what is best for the company.
Plug had 90M shares O/S at that time...not 347M like SLTD. Huge difference.
I'm just hoping that they have some news to push the price above $.50 or so before the split. I can deal with a 1/10 but a 1/25 would hurt...
They are not going to sell shares at this price...
What is more likely to happen is a R/S a listing on the NASDAQ and then the offering. But what do I know? I do know that here is not one solar company on the NASDAQ with 340M shares outstanding and SLTD will not be the first. Anyhow, my $.02
Sure it matters, everything matters. If they came out and said that the panel had achieved 30% then it would just be that much better due to everyone wanting that panel. I'm not saying they would not want it at 25% but 30 would be way better... It's just my hope, not what I expect. I do expect better than 25 though since the first panel produced that much.
Now I'm really confused.
What would the max be for SLTD cell?
Maximum output of solar - in case your brain wants facts...
In physics, the Shockley–Queisser limit or detailed balance limit refers to the maximum theoretical efficiency of a solar cell using a p-n junction to collect power from the cell. It was first calculated by William Shockley and Hans Queisser at Shockley Semiconductor in 1961.[1] The limit is one of the most fundamental to solar energy production, and is considered to be one of the most important contributions in the field.[2]
The limit places maximum solar conversion efficiency around 33.7% assuming a single p-n junction with a band gap of 1.34 eV (using an AM 1.5 solar spectrum).[1] That is, of all the power contained in sunlight falling on an ideal solar cell (about 1000 W/m²), only 33.7% of that could ever be turned into electricity (337 W/m²). The most popular solar cell material, silicon, has a less favourable band gap of 1.1 eV, resulting in a maximum efficiency of 29%. Modern commercial mono-crystalline solar cells produce about 22% conversion efficiency, the losses due largely to practical concerns like reflection off the front surface and light blockage from the thin wires on its surface.
The Shockley–Queisser limit only applies to cells with a single p-n junction; cells with multiple layers can outperform this limit. In the extreme, with an infinite number of layers, the corresponding limit is 86% using concentrated sunlight.[3]
No, hopefully before a PR
Was it 46% efficiency on that Australian cell? If they can get 46%, I think we can get at least 35. I hope we get news on something cell related soon, even if it is just testing by a 3rd party on effiency.
Guesstimates on 3rd prototype efficiency?
Back when the first prototype was completed, they said it was just above 25% efficient and produced almost 250% more energy than a standard cell.
Today we have the 3rd prototype complete combining all the research of the previous 2 and have not heard anything regarding the efficiency and total power output. What would someone on here care to guess on what the 3rd and hopefully final prototype will put out power wise?
I will take a wild guess of 38% efficiency and 350% output compared to standard panels.
Just might be....
or not
Only around 8-10 trading days left
I would say that they will release something during the first full week of January. I expect the PPS to increase going into that week. Thoughts?
UPLIST NEWS TOMORROW?
I'm sure some good news is going to be reported. Several things I would like to hear about. Ironbridge, uplist, revs etc...
Dude it's a joke!
I simply prefer to keep my emails with JN between him and I and not betray his trust. He does not share insider info, but most the time he asks that I do not post his verbatim comments on message boards.
Just FYI re: my reasoning
I have invested in several companies who have ended up with toxic funding IE: Ironbridge Global IV, Hanover and several others and they absolutely kill shareholder value. When I go to a investors web site and only see a welcome page, then it concerns me. When I see they are the CEO of their own firm but also the CFO of another firm, it concerns me. When the person in question has NO experience whatsoever in equity financing, it concerns me. I'm concerned of all my investments. I have ALOT invested in SLTD and others and when something is concerning, I try to get answers. Anyhow, I think everyone should ask questions and never be gullible.
Only I'm allowed insider info...
Received a reply from JN
Although I will not share his reply with the board, I will say that he answered my questions regarding Bountiful and I fell better about their investment and dealings.
God chill out!!
Do you think everyone here has been invested since the beginning of time? My questions are valid until someone gives me an honest answer to who the hell this company (Should I call it a company) it only has one employees from what I can tell is. Come on, give me a real good reply about this so called company and how they have helped or hurt SLTD. Is thus guy a trust fund baby or what? How is it that all these folks reside in the same town and invest in only companies from the same town? Are they all related? Did they all attend the same college? Were they in the same math class or something? I just want answers regarding who is providing financing. Are they toxic financiers? Do they immediately sell and hurt the share price?
Did not attach it
But I did consolidate it to where he would get the point.
Just did email JN
Hopefully a reply is in order...
Hatchet job?
I think this persons questions is just as valid as my own. DO I care if the guy meant it to sway people away? NO, I really do not. It is just information and information that investors like myself would like to know. I am emailing JN for clarification and hope he responds with something positive.
Courtesy of sprechnd (Thanks)
From HYSR board a while back regarding bountiful capital and Greg Bowden
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69952418
There are other suspicious activities regarding this company. The following is loosely assembled data mostly from SEC reports but also from Google searches. I make no guarantees to its accuracy and it should not be taken nor understood as fact. Do your own research before investing in these companies.
The company is associated with two others than I can find, named:
Solar 3D -- SLTD
and
Warp 9 Inc -- WNYN
and through one of their directors,
Carbon Sciences -- CABN
All three, that I can see, have been associated with diluting shareholder value. There are even cases with Warp 9 where they diluted it such that a new shareholder, last name "Lei", first name something like Elina, and possibly a related party "Jonathan Lei," gained control over 30% of the company after previous having no control.
It was associated with a company called Pearl Innovations LLC.
There are also interesting connections between this company and a man based in the Santa Barbara, CA area named Greg Boden. As far as I can tell, Greg Boden previously tried to be an "outsourced CPA" doing what was in effect free-lance CPA work for companies. There were two websites associated with this business, something like outsourcecpa.com, etc.
If you are researching this and find the websites, they are gone now. But if you go to archive.org, the websites are still available that confirm this guy at one point was trying to do free-lance CPA work.
Obviously it was not profitable or sustainable, because it appears he no longer does this.
What he did decide to do was start his own "private equity fund," having NO prior PE experience that I can see from his resume, other than that he is an accountant. I cannot find much evidence of this company, but they are also based in the Santa Barbara area. The company's name is "Bountiful Capital LLC".
Bountiful Capital has connections to HYSR, WNYN, and SLTD. The first two, WNYN and HYSR, Bountiful Capital LLC gained (somehow) a large amount of shares of these worthless companies. Greg Boden markets his private equity fund as "helping early startups in technology and energy," but I can find no evidence that he has any expertise doing this, nor can I find evidence of anyone else who works at this company who does. There might be, but the only employee I could find on Google was Greg Boden.
I also could not find any evidence that the companies disclosed that Boden's Bountiful Capital was providing some sort of service to improve their business in some fashion, other than activities related to financing disclosed by the SEC.
The third company, SLTD, it appears, Greg Boden himself gained a large amount of shares in. All three of these companies, again, appear to be companies that continually dilute shareholder value and have not had any successful products or sustainable revenue.
SLTD is connected to Carbon Sciences because SLTD is a *renamed company* that was previously called "Machine Talker Inc." MachineTalker used to trade under the symbol MACH over the counter, but of course it no longer exists and has been turned into SLTD, a completely unrelated venture.
One of the directors of Carbon Sciences (BRYAN ROLAND F) owned this company that made a few electronic devices that could communicate with each other in a mesh topology. They of course were not the only company working on this and it appears that their products were never commercially successful. They were also not very miniaturized, in my opinion, making the viability of the product low. He now may have a beneficial ownership of shares in this company.
Carbon Sciences also appears to be a similar company that seems to have no viable product yet they release press releases touting "gas to liquid technology" of *other companies*! Their plan is to develop some sort of gas-to-liquid technology, but again, it seems to me that these companies are mostly set on doing stock offerings at elevated prices often, making them very poor investments for shareholders and making the people who run them rich.
Back to HYSR. This company has touted at least two technologies but they appear to have no one on staff who has any technical experience. Prof. Nadir Dagli, a professor at nearby UCSB, is an expert in optoelectronics yet it isn't clear to me what the association between Dagli and HYSR is, in the sense that I am not sure about the company's claims that he "invented their breakthrough technology".
This technology is for 'solar concentrating' or some such activity. The idea is to use a material like silicon or some other waveguide-friendly material to either focus the light onto a smaller solar panel. Another idea related to this is to design a waveguide that is frequency-selective in order to both concentrate the light and divert different parts of the sunlight spectrum towards different solar cells that are more efficient at absorbing different parts of the spectrum because of their bandgaps.
This is not trivial technology to create. Other companies have obviously thought of this idea because it isn't that creative. The issue is that it likely requires a lot of money spent on research, and even if a working prototype exists, it isn't clear how to fabricate the waveguides in a cheap fashion, especially on a small scale, that would make the technology commercially viable.
I couldn't find anything saying that HYSR even has a working prototype. There was another guy who had some waveguide experience and a ton of fabrication experience associated with HYSR, but he now works at a company in Colorado and appears to have severed ties with HYSR completely.
From the SEC reports, they paid UCSB professor Nadir Dagli $150 as a consultant, and then later terminated this relationship. Whether he is associated with the company still or not, I do not know. It doesn't seem likely, although he is still pictured on their website.
Their other alleged "technology," which they now tout after seemingly given up on the waveguide idea, is some sort of CO2 to methane conversion. I doubt it works, just based on the enthalpy required to get it going, but what do I know. There are no details on the website other than a mere CLAIM of a patent filing, which does not mean it will get accepted, and more useless PR releases from the company claiming it's going to save the world. Just more tactics to push their stock price upwards so the 'executives' of the company can keep sucking money from investors to pay themselves and their associates hefty sums of money while people who know nothing about the company and invest in it anyway are left holding the bag.
It still doesn't seem like they have ANYONE in this company with any actual experience other than two "CEO" types that have no technical knowledge other than to write blog posts touting how "disruptive technology is needed to solve the world's energy problems." There is no substance to the company and by diluting shareholders and being the beneficiary of paid promotions, they are able to pay themselves a salary without actually producing anything of merit. Instead, they can portray themselves as some up-and-coming startup while in the SEC reports, they are forced to divulge that they may not be an on-going business, i.e. they admit their ability to stay out of bankruptcy is speculative.
Either Greg Boden of Santa Barbara/Goleta is an idiot, or he is trying to get into this pump & dump scam with the rest of these jackals. It would be great if your CPA business failed and you could instead provide a small amount of money to acquire some shares, pump them up through the use of HYSR's paid promoters (who paid them precisely isn't clear, but follow the money), and then sell them for a profit later while looking like some bigshot "private equity" guy, when in reality the profits are made not from investing in startups with viable technology, but from stock price manipulation through paid promoters and other tactics.
Based on the company history, I see no reason to invest in it. There are shady connections of this company with CABN, SLTD, WNYN, Eliana Lei, Jonathan Lei, Pearl Innovcations LLC, Bountiful Capital LLC, and some other company based on Las Vegas named "Wings" something-or-other.
Just putting this out there! Do your own due dilligence. All of this will provide a good start for further research on any of these companies and their shady associations.
It just is...suspicious to me.
This guy is pretty much a nobody parading as a big investor. Chink provided a website, but it's just a front page with only a contact form. It just seems very suspicious to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm always going to question things that look like they need questioning.
This really is freaking me out...
This is what freaks the shit out of me!
Who the hell is Bountiful Capital? They have no website, the CEO of bountiful capital (Greg Boden) is the CFO of Warp9 which is another penny stock company. Before doing what he currently does, he was an account manager for AT&T which is like a glorified grocery store clerk and a manager of a staffing company. Now he is the CEO of a capital management company? According to Glassdoor.com the salary of a acct manager is right around 54k per year. Shit, I make more than that… It looks like he is also involved in HYSR (hyper solar) who supposedly is making some solar chip for splitting H20 into hydrogen (another penny stock). I can see no employees of Bountiful Capital and his education is severely lacking… WTF. Does anyone have any information on this that would make me feel better?