Is there any 'penalty' for posting a trade late?

If not, what could be the motivation for posting late?

It appears to be willful obfuscation but I don't think I'm sophisticated enough to know who would benefit or what the benefit would be.

The author, David Sims, is a regular contributor on the Google FnF board.

(Google boards, "Fanny and Freddy Discussion Board".

No pumperz...

In the dark blue line above all the posts (labeled from left to right Post....Subject...[ ][Go to post]...) the next entry is "Older". If you click that you go to the previous ~50 posts.

Ditto: Hero, or Zero.

I don't think it'll take another 5 years to sort though; injunctive relief is justified IMO and would certainly shake things up.

Yeah, that's a beaut. Like the crane attack, there's no defense...

Yeah! I've been pondering that for ages.

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Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
(Favored tools of the dark side...)

"...these Alpha articles don't pull down a stock like Facebook 'all by themselves'...They may be one tiny part of a concerted short attack. "

Yes!

"This article today was just dumb."

Yes yes!!

Not unless your total net worth is in excess of $8m.

I think you may be correct. It's been part of my investment thesis from the start that the real fireworks would begin once The Powers that Be realize how much money they could make here.

"So when one read news articles by those not well trained and experienced in finance or law, you will always find more than the usual ignorance, inaccuracy and poor reasoning in addition to intentional and unintentional misrepresentations and bias that the well-trained exhibit. An example of this is the statement you mentioned that "...Congress will preserve some value for private shareholders or wipe out their holdings." "

Outstanding.

Nah- it's a forum for intelligent discussion, not a stoning.

Agree. How could we not?

"Does anybody here believe the House can pass legislation in the next four months?"

LMAO- very difficult to argue against that! :)

1. Small numbers as a percentage of the float (at least as reported by Google Finance).

FMCC float: 650M; short% ~1%

FNMA float: 1.16B; short % ~0.75.

2. It would be really interesting to know the *current* numbers; up, or down?

I think rather than being 'dismissive' Maloni's latest was written and had 'gone to press' before he got a copy of the proposal. Give him a day or so and watch the blog comments; $1 says he'll have some advanced commentary in there and of course the next one will touch on it.

Disclaimer: I read everything in that blog and recommend it ;)

Agree on all counts and I wouldn't make any guesses regarding price direction today for all those reasons.

This new bill represents government's first conciliatory stance, their first motion since the lawsuits were filed. It's main significance is that it pays at least lip service to current shareholders vis-a-vis the ongoing existence of the Enterprises.

That IS positive, wouldn't you say? It's now been publicly acknowledged that our position has merit.

Not to mention that the longer resolution takes the further "in the hole" Uncle Sugar will be with respect to ill-gotten gains.

I won't guess at the overall timeline, but 5 years sounds way too long.

"You forgot to mention..." (amended)

Rereading my last post I found the tone to be potentially disrespectful to esteemed poster 5bagger. There's no way he could actually have forgotten, and it was NOT my intent to imply that. I should have written "Not to mention the questionable..."

Sincere apologies to 5b; respect!

You forgot to mention the questionable (politically motivated) accounting that drove FnF's bailout 'balance' higher than was actually justified.

I suspect that working back through those numbers a case could be made that Uncle Sugar has already profited handsomely and indeed should be satisfied with the outcome now.

Of course, I'm biased.

My beef with exercising the warrants is that Uncle Sugar has damn near already been paid back; exercising the warrants would accord him egregious profits.

10% divs was bad enough.

Corker says his "...thinking on the issue hasn’t evolved."

Finally something from him I can agree with; hopefully he'll be extinct soon.

I think she means pigs get fed but hogs get slaughtered.

Generally attributed to Corker saying something about an equitable settlement being called for. See Maloni's blog, he's got a good digest of what was said.

"...the risks are almost the same."

I don't think that's true, and while in a theoretical sense "the commons have no limit" they'll be severely limited until the warrant situation is completely clear.

Personally I think that the prefs will be at RV before commons are anywhere near peaking, and there is no arguing their superior position in the capital hierarchy. I do hold commons, but have a lot more 'CKJ and do not plan on selling that for more commons at this price level.

All? Wouldn't.

Sure, WE know that, but HE does not. I'm sure his mom told him he was the smartest boy ever.

"Typical Corker talking out of both sides of his mouth"

The word on the street is that he thinks he's a presidential contender; accepting a major setback in this arena would be damaging so he'll say what he needs to say (and again reveal himself to those paying attention as a spineless worm).

Love that line, though originally it came from Baron Rothschild:

"Buy when there is blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own."

Who is CB?

Regardless, is it a case of revisionist history or is there some legitimate alternate accounting method that states the Enterprises were down $500B?

I debated and decided that discretion was the better form of valor in that particular arena but wholly support your decision! I like how he claimed the taxpayers were still owed 80B.

That was so factually incorrect so as to be beyond belief.

As I recall she opined that we'd be able to tell 'the fix was in' when the 10y Treasury rates spiked.

I don't remember the rationale.

These are interesting times to be a GSE investor, that's for sure...

Make no mistake; I'm long and strong, deep in the Hero or Zero camp. Despite my public promise to myself to sell the rip this time I haven't been able to do it.