Wisdom, not hype
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Hope and assumption, now that's a sound investing strategy!
Wait, more good news and yet price is falling, can be true lol
"Right on bro!"
Too funny. Bro.
I've got some magic beans for sale, interested?
Sure an awful lot of dissension of late... Clearly an update is in order, some guidance - better yet, some long overdue news. Patience is fine, but I know even you 'be patient' guys are growing tired of the relative radio silence, be honest. Things take time, fine, I appreciate and respect that - but respecting your shareholders and appreciating their investments is also crucial - guidance is overdue
Care to elaborate? What makes you believe it's fake?
While I agree that at the moment the price per gallon difference is negligible (though let's be realistic here, we all know these current gas prices won't stick around long), it's not just the price that's a factor here - equally as important, if not more so, is the quality and EFFICIENCY of the product being paid for - both of which have been scientifically proven to be significantly superior with our fuel. When gasoline prices rise back up, $ cost per gallon will again be yet another reason our product is more desirable. Our product (or the marketplace for that matter) isn't the issue here, it's that we need NEWS. Without sales (official contracts) and material distribution, all we're doing is sitting on a goldmine - news, we need news!
Too bad that article is from 6 years ago... but nice try.
There is no such thing, to my understanding, as "approved for sale in Florida", rather there is a governmental set of standards and requirements that must be met, and again, to my understanding, we have met both. Symantics.
Gloating? Thats your thing now? You're a real prize, aren't you. Jesus Christ.... crawl back into your hole. I see you post the same BS all over every board you visit, not surprised. Were you not breastfed or something? Troll. Troll. Troll... wacko.
All this wonderful news and exciting things just over the horizon, and yet still, PPS is down - well, well, well... how about that lol how's that golf game coming along guys? Don't forget to take a break for drinks after the 9th hole, gotta be sure to give the detailer enough time to polish up the Bentley
When did I cry wolf? I'm simply stating there's a ton of blatant bullshit flying around.
Man, you've been saying this for MONTHS (longer, actually). There is good reason to believe in this company, IMO, but I see no reason to think (or believe) course-changing news is imminent at this point. What makes your prediction today any different from the hundred times over gone missed up to this point? Not being adversarial, I just keep reading the same things over and over again, and aside from fluctuations (seemingly based in flippers/manipulation), nothing comes to fruition, not even particularly enthusiastic or encouraging forward guidance. It's ridiculous.
Might want to check that math....
what the hell is happening.... again. Unbelievable.
Then he should restate - I can read.
A little less defensive, and a little more concision would do this board some actual good.
So, dshade presented secondhand speculation as fact - got it, thanks.
"That bogus ecsl short article was written by a known crook who was already jailed for illegal shorting of penny stocks when he was an administrator of a certain message board."
Sorry, that doesn't sound like speculation, does it? That was posted as a statement of fact, plain and simple. If it's fact, I'd like to see some proof. Not arguing it isn't, I just believe in evidence backed 'facts', the only kind that hold any value.
If that's true, that they wouldn't allow, that calls the current staff into question, too, then, no?
I'm sure you're right, but how about posting some proof of his criminal identity/history, that would irrefutably put this to bed, rather than simply 'a known crook'
Because this is the OTC, unfortunately. What authorities do you think will come running, if alerted? This is the wild west, my friend, until we (ECSL) get uplisted (and then better monitored and regulated), this is just the way it works. The day we move up to the big boards will be the day this BS all but goes away forever, I for one can't wait!
I certainly does look like that at times, doesn't it. There's a lot of solid DD available, and that's why I stay in, but the contributions of the 'regulars' here have really gotten silly (not to mention childishly repetitive). It's coming. Any day now. Load up. It's the shorters. News imminent. Takes off with news. ...every day, and it's gotten not just tiring, again, it's gotten silly. I fear we have some masqueraders amongst us, playing the daily flipping game with no real long intentions or real company expectations. Tough, I like this company, and certainly like the idea of its success, but the last few weeks, if I'm being perfectly honest, have had me scratching my head more than ever before...
I think we can all agree this company is at very least a complete festering wreck, if not a scam entirely - the latter still seems more likely than not. But, man, failing at something as simple (and cheap) as keeping a rudimentarily simple website live, just crazy. I think I'm more embarrassed that I drank the kool-aid than I am angry at the several thousand dollar hit I took as a result - and that hurt a lot. It's a shame that Martin suffering any real legal consequences is pretty unlikely. Ugh.
Down down down she goes, gently down the drain....
I won't speak for him, but I think he was just saying it casually, like "I like 75 better, but sunny day and 70 degrees, I'll take it", not literally.
Pre-market 1000 share trade?
Source? Link? Detail?
C'mon, you can't just toss in a grenade and run away....
This board has gone completely off the rails lol
That last sentence has never been truer or more appropriate, but some are doomed no matter how clearly or how many times warned - they actually need to be poked before they'll believe the cactus needles are sharp.
Sounds great, right? Shame it won't happen. Want to know what you'll REALLY get? Easy, take whatever you have invested, subtract 90-95% or so of that number - that's what you can expect that investment to look like year from now - if you're actually interested in reality, that is. Do some actual DD, save your money, the answers are there, all you gotta do is look. I know, I know, I'm wrong.... Yeah, yeah... Take an honest look for yourself, again, the reality is there, you just gotta be willing to see the truth.
MM games. Manipulated pps drop. Another day. Pffftt....
Translation - you now, finally, see this isn't going up anytime soon...
Looks like everyone has their shares tightly locked up, not a single sale in the first 30 minutes of trading, and even the usual baiting tactics from MM's aren't working....
Zero volume at open, and ghost town in here... we - need - NEWS
See that, we all get to that point sooner or later. Let's be honest, what you posted is exactly what you (and a couple others here) hammered me for repeatedly in the not-too-distant past. I get it, I've been a cheerleader myself, and while enthusiastic optimism is great, and quiet patience is also a good thing (turns out yours is just a bit longer than mine), there certainly does come a point where endlessly waiting becomes questionable, even foolish.
I'm with you, I AM a believer.That said, it really is time for some news, or at least some substantive guidance.
Pre market yes, but not at the moment, sporadic Xmas eve market is always a coin toss...
Sure would be nice to get some news to close out the year!
A good old fashioned public tar and feather job is what he needs - and even that would be too kind.
Where in FL are you?
So now approval from Florida (or the previous belief that that was wholly the case) is now suddenly meaningless and insignificant?
I get what you're saying, but what we had with this recent run-up was the combination of the Florida news (and that was at worst exaggerated, or at best cleverly worded, we know that now) along with the growing anticipation of an 'imminent' contract announcement.
I agree that we still have our shares, and that nothing has really changed - but part of the reason we're right back down where we were just a couple of weeks ago (aside from last weeks shenanigans) is that, well, nothing has changed.
We can be patient, and let's be honest, we have been, sounds like you as much so if not more than most, but the anticipation and expectation was not totally out of thin air, there are reasons the fervor had reached a point to basically triple the pps upon the Florida news release.
What we have now, unfortunately (to use the continuing ball underwater analogy) is a ball a little less inflated, and that ball will now push to rise, but with less hurry than when the air pressure was excitedly higher.
"I strongly suggest if you don't feel that way that now may be the time to relinquish your shares."
Thanks for that ridiculous suggestion.