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JJS, thank you for your response, there are avenues for VRNG to manuver, I thank you very much, once I explain I will not sleep in the dog house tonight. I still will hang on to my 55k shares of VRNG, it will be interesting to know who were the ones that bailed out today, anyways this is the time to pick up another 10 or 20k. GLTA
Red Angus, JJS, where do we go from here? In the Courts System? Thanking you in advance to enlighten us "PLEASE"
TO "RED ANGUS, JJS, AND ALL LONG INVESTORS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT DO NOT FORGET THAT ZTE DISCLOSED TO THE "CHINESE" COURTS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT VRNG HAD TURNED OVER LAST YEAR IN ORDER OUT OF COURT. CAN ANYONE TRUST ANYTHING COMING OUT OF A BUNCH OF DOUBLE CROSSING "LIARS". BY THE WAY WHAT IS THE PUNISHMENT FROM OUR COURTS WHEN SOMEONE DISCLOSES INFORMATION THAT HAD BEEN SEALED AND DEEMED NONDISCLOSURE INFORMATION. VRNG LONG'S GO.
retjarhead, very interesting question, perhaps this is an issue we should ask Red Angus, JJS and other legal minds. GLTA
Xena-Lives, thank you for your kind response. It appears GESI has changed direction and Directors, I wonder where Dave Zembeck has ended in the chain of command?, nevertheless we have to hold on to the shares we have and hope for the best. Again thank you for your response. GLTA
Xena-Lives, can you be so kind to bring me up to date please, has a permit been issued yet? who is in charge? very much appreciated. GLTA GSI'S LONG
subslover, thank you for your reply, I have added another 10k while this low. Looking to see this go up from here. Thanks again, have a great day.
postyle, thank you for your kind reply, I guess I will have to buy another bottle of patience regarding the Google affair. We may have to settle for ZTE to come to their senses and settle all at one time for the shares to go up from where we are now. Again thank you for your gentlemen gesture. GLTA Longs.
postyle, been out of the loop for a while, kindy if you have the information when are we to hear from the appeals court?
GoGo-KG, who deleted the message you are answering to?. These postings are conversation among shareholders, all should listen to all. Getting to the bottom is essential, otherwise the boys that hold those millions of shares are going to be playing us for as long as they can until SEC catches up with them. I have an investment of about $45K since March 13th, 2012, that I would like to turn into some cash. Wait for the opportunity to sell when spikes appear.
stoppatentthieves, this is where the rubber meets the road for VRNG'S attorneys, how to decipher "ALICE", to prove to the Judges VRNG'S patents are are not software's patents, they are WORKING PATENTS. GLTA
GoGo-KittyGrrl, does anyone knows where Gordon is?, Where is David Zembeck?. I think someone is trying to blow warm air into the Balloon. Look out every one something is about to happen here careful!!! Still, Scottrade does not allow me to put a sales price higher than .015, I have all my shares for sale at that price. GLTA
ONE HOUR INTO TODAY'S TRADING, VERY LOW VOLUME, SOME UNDERGROUND MOVEMENT?
tutankhamen, I count myself in the group that from time to time we forget ZTE and other that will be making payments to VRNG, a nice short list but collecting from companies that have good cash flow. Go VRNG GO!!!
acrazjo, good answer to Mr. secrueit, I have been holding 55K and adding, I will retire comfortable with my earning of double digits in the 30's. GLTA vrng's long holders.
Patentinvestor, where do you see the pps going if all comes to reality? $12, $15, $20 ? thank you for your comment. GLTA
chrislal, that was the basis of my earlier post, this is no time to be suing. all it will do is set us back, in a divided house everything comes tumbling down. and google will take advantage of the situation. glta
secureit, no doubt I also rather have the four legged ones, but here we are going along with the top dogs of VRNG, each making a very good salary and we are at their mercy. Just like JJ said Rots of Rucks, I do not think is a good idea, about suing at this juncture where we are, It brings a sour taste to the whole spectrum.
secureit, I think you also own a dog or two, no? the only difference between yours and Mark Cuban is that he has a million or better dogs, and you ? GLTA
jjseabrook, your participation on this board along with Red Angus is greatly appreciated by all of us following VRG'S ordeal. David against Goliath. As you describe the oral argument is part of an overall revision of the three judges to make a decision in this case. At least I am ready to wait till the very end. Google, is not the only plate on VRNG'S table of income stream, looking for ZTE to come on line in the very near future. GLTA
Red Angus, thank you for taking the time to post your opinion, it is reassuring to hear from someone that has been following VRNG for a long time and knows the history of the case. Again thank you.
Notuncoolish, brilliant deduction Dr. Watson, that is al he has been all along. I still have my 55,000 %. Go VRNG Go.
secureit, Is there a problem with suing Google Twenty times if we have the right to patents they are infringing. Can't take the Heat?, just hang on for the rest of the year, it will be worthwhile, good luck to all.
jj, Red, not tooting!!!! correction
jj seabrook, Red Angus, good morning to both of you, glad to see you back, my two cents worth why they are tooting their horn is to keep a low profile in the court system and not show arrogance such as Google's, this way they keep things cool. Only my humble opinion. Good Luck to All VRNG's LONG.
billymayshear, how true your statement, we never stop learning. Likewise, I did not traded in and out, first time around Oct. 8th, there could have made a good $150k, and held on. My rear view mirror was foggy that day, nevertheless I am still holding my shares 54K, good luck to all VRNG's LONG. Every one should read at least the last 10 posting, a ton of information specially to green horns like me. Have a wonderful day.
running bull, the day that happens it will be for a bit more than $5/share, I believe that we see at least between $7 & $9. Until then I am looking that google will pay us between $10 & $16 or court ordered payment of $1.2B to $1.8B. Good luck to all VRNG'S LONGS.
sluicer, thank you very much for your response, I have done a bit of research and you are correct, this law is directed to offshore financial institutions, again thank you.
Good Morning, JJ, Red Angus and other legal minds, I have been seeing quite a few be aware signs regarding a law coming into effect July 1st, I believe for short is FATCA?, what is is law's ultimate effect to the american population? thank you for response. GLTA VRNG'S LONG.
subslover, I think I am going to p/u some more here to try to average down from where I am today. Thank you for the heads up, really appreciate it. GLTY
klamzo, wwtlds, this appears to be good news, just before the appeals court goes into session May 6th. Let's see what does Google does?. GLTA
subslover, good morning, long time since I posted, still hanging to my 30K @ $.91, something is going on, someone just bought 1,000,000 shares @ $0.191 under form T, which I do not what the significance of the "T" is may be he is a director of the company or some one who is going to sell for a few cents later. Try to find out if you can what is going on, have a wonderful day.
GoGo-KittyGrrl, I'll take my losses and look for the Jail House to have a few more inmates that have made reservations, for screwing us out of our hard earned funds.
GoGoKittyGrrl, please, can you explain who is selling and who still buying at this stage? is someone loading up with GESI? how many more zillions of shares are out there are they legal shares?
Tom4, thank you for dropping in, it is nice to hear from you every now and then, we do have a pay day coming, I think it will be more than $7. Good luck to all VRNG long holders.
GoGo-KittyGrrl, thank you for letting me know, I appreciate it.
ed4170, no there was no permit tendered at all, is a matter of fact that, they (the office that issues permits) have not met Mr. Gordon.
Go-Go-KittyGrrl, good morning, someone last week floated the idea of trying to save GESI somehow. If there is a way to do this I believe the idea of turning old railroad ties into gas and producing electricity is a valid one. How to get this group of thieves out of GESI I do not know. Perhaps this can be done legally. Can we get in touch with David Zembeck he may know how. I repeat the idea is a valid one. I do not know how the rest feel about this, any ideas???
Go-GoKittyGrrl,hello, have you or any one heard from David Zembeck? I wonder what his view regarding all of this. I had quite a few conversations with him during the middle of 2012 and into 2013, after that never heard from him, did receive a couple of email asking me to contact him, I tried but to no avail. Is this the end of the road for GESI? What a scam, never thought it would wind up like this. Where did all investors that supported GESI have gone?
cdams, neither am I, happy that is, but once you are committed to your goals you hang on to your believes and your DD, we are going to retire with VRNG'S help in the sense they will have a program with UV, and smartly do a deal with msft. you watch and see, in the mean time your post is not helping the others who are long. Take a "Take" with JJS and Red Angus, their post are to the point, at the same time pro-VRNG, let's keep the positive attitude here. The most beautiful thing is that of course you can post what you want, if you are not happy you can sell at any time. JMO. GLTA VRNG'S LOOONG!!!