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Then there's Buffet-guy...
who knows even less than Go-Kite, this morning suggesting that WAVE was the solution to Microsoft's security problems. At least somebody contradicted this inane suggestion. Seriously, the cult at times displays an alarming ignorance of the technology issues. Not everyone, of course, but many.
This morning the egomaniac Go-Kite is attempting to debate Eamonnshute regarding the mobile market. Now Eammon, despite his many flaws, obviously knows about a hundred times more than Go-Kite does about the field. He works for Nokia, for one thing. Go-Kite, know-it-all-extraordinaire, has apparently read some vague specifications and dot-connected (a favorite Wavoid activity) to a different conclusion about mobile devices and the imminent opportunities for WAVE in that market.
If the cult had any collective sense (I suppose that is self-contradictory) it would pay Go-Kite to take a long vacation. You have enough credibility problems (i.e., Steven Sprague, cash-flow break-even, etc., etc., etc.) without sanctioning, not to mentioning continuously praising such a sanctimonious and ignorant blowhard.
Can you see the monumental hypocrisy...
of Go-Kitesurf? The guy vents non-stop on the journalist Ellen Sheng for allegedly mis-reporting WAVE-related news. Calls her unprofessional. Accuses her of unethical conduct, no less. (You may remember that contained within his diatribe was the claim that he had won journalistic kudos of some vague sort.)
Then, almost instantaneously following this diatribe, the very same individual publishes an article in a venue that he may or may not own or control under the by-line of "staff writer" in which he unabashedly promotes WAVE Systems. Does he disclose a material financial interest in that company? NO!
So tell me, John, you consider this behavior worthy of the kudos bestowed by your colleagues in the WAVX camp? Or do you prefer to continue in Silence is Golden mode?
24601: Wrong on numerous counts...
but, then, that's nothing new. You say I accuse people of condoning a "wrong that's already been righted," but no one inside the cult ever suggested there was anything wrong with a Wavoid writing an article promoting a company in which they had a significant financial interest without disclosing that very material matter. No one saw any problem with a Wavoid writing an article under the cover of "staff writer" for CAD-CAM FORUM (as if such a site even had paid staff writers). No one was troubled by the obvious attempt to deceive the public into thinking someone with credentials outside the cult was enthusiastic about the so-called product. No, John, that's the problem with your little cult. You have loose cannons like Go-Kite who, frankly, know about 10% of what they pretend to know, who are willing to do just about anything to promote this company. And folks like you, who I think can see such obviously deceptive practices, you go into Silence is Golden mode.
About the esteemed Go-Kitesurf...
Not only does this individual publish an article touting a company in which he has a personal financial interest without bothering to disclose same, he has the audacity to accuse an actual journalist of unethical behavior because he thought her coverage of a WAVE-related event was wrong! The usual monumental hypocrisy from this character.
My personal Go-Kitesurf favorite, though, was when he spent twenty minutes studying technical analysis and then proceeded to lecture the forum (which at the time probably consisted of a hundred people who were active traders) on a subject he obviously knew next to nothing about. (One interesting tidbit in this lecture was the note that WorldCom had been expelled from the DJIA!)
Undeterred by this faux paus, Go-Kitesurf ventured into fundamental analysis, only to--in the middle of yet another lecture--expose the fact that he had no idea what certain fundamental ratios meant. I'm talking fundamental stuff. Like EPS. It was too hilarious!
This is an individual held in high esteem by the Wavoids. He posts God knows how many times a day at that site and is congratulated endlessly by the cult members for his erudition!
When you have snake-oil salesmen pitching your goods, you can't blame people for thinking the goods aren't what they're said to be. Of course, that could be why the stock sells for a buck a share. Partly.
Must have that poster on ignore...
anyway, the essential point has to do with the way the article was originally presented, the obvious deception in the "staff writer" by-line, the fact that Wavoids applaud this sort of thing. Yourself included, apparently. Oh, I know, Silence Is Golden.
Why the Wavoids are a dishonest bunch...
in my opinion. A poster references the following article, published by a CAD-CAM FORUM "staff writer". No by-line. Wonder why. Could it be that this "staff writer" is none other than the Wavoid posting as Go-Kitesurf? (This is no longer conjecture. The entire group considered migrating to this CAD-CAM Forum thing until Matt capitulated and allowed them to monopolize the IHUB forum.)
Does anyone respond to the "Has this been posted?" query posted this morning? Does anyone say, "YES. It's not only been posted, it's been discussed, it's been attributed to a Wavoid."
Does an honest individual publish a so-called article like this in a controlled forum without identifying himself? I don't think so. I think it is an effort to deceive the reader into thinking some actual technology journalist knew about and was touting WAVE Systems. Certain Wavoids realize this chicanery. 24601, I imagine, sees it for what it is. Weby, no doubt. But, of course, they remain silent. Very admirable folks, these Wavoids. Very admirable indeed.
The article referenced:
http://www.cadcamforum.net/dirt/trusted-computing.html
Great PR for bonus time though!!!
All the Wavoids high-fivin each other, talkin trash, etc., etc., etc. Who's gonna mind another round of six-figure bonuses? Too hilarious.
The Dell announcement will take everyone's...
proverbial eye off the ball while the company announces yet another dismal quarter. Cash flow break-even? Ain't even gonna be close. Not Q4, not Q1, 2005, not Q2, Q3, Q4. Maybe sometime in 2006. About the time that V-formation of pigs circles the North pole.
Ciao
Matt: The Wavoids need dousing...
with a bucket or two of cold water. The gala parade that began with the disclosure that Dell was making a WAVE product available to its customers is another in a long line of premature celebrations on the part of the cult. Yes, it's nice to actually be able to see a product that one can actually purchase. After 16 years, that is a step forward. The question is, will anyone actually want the thing? I continue to seriously doubt it. But, hey, ICBW.
24601: No revenue projection for Q4,2004?
I don't see you on Larry's chart. Actually, I don't see me on the chart either, but I expect an update shortly. Anyway, I'm curious as to what your expectations are. I don't think the gang in Lee has done an especially good job of managing those (expectations, that is) this quarter. I think the deferred revenue from last quarter is going to remain in large part deferred still. Which will be a come-down for the Wavoids. The more relevant information, in my opinion, is actual sales. I'm thinking there wasn't much.
WAVX Q4, 2004 numbers, when reported...
will so disappoint the cult (specifically the crowd looking for revenues in excess of $400K), that there will be a significant reduction in the stock's price within a week of publication. Like ten to fifteen cents a share. I look for 75 to 80 cents per share by two weeks after. By this time next year, I think a dime a share is possible.
P.S. I may buy a little at fourteen cents, given that will represent a 99% drop from where I sold my shares. Call me sentimental.
Larry D: My WAVX revenue prediction...
for your chart:
Q4, 2004 - $68,000.
2005 in total - $367,000.
Unless, of course, the entire management team resigns. Then there might be a sliver of hope.
Good morning Matt...
Have you noticed the quality of the drivel appearing on the WAVX board of late? These people are delusional, Matt. There is nothing happening in the TCG universe. Nothing. Nada. The whole thing is a pig-in-a-poke. The relevant issues--such as the company's CEO projecting cash flow break even by Q4, 2004 just a little over a year ago--are never addressed. This is the second time in four years that he has missed a revenue projection by more than 95%! Not that it matters to you, of course. I imagine Snackman & Co. provide you with enough subscription money to finance your Mervyn's sprees!
Greg: They will come up with $50K or so...
even if it requires Feeney trolling for garment center sharks to do another "development" deal with. As to actual "sales," my guess is they'll come in less than $10K.
DIG SPACE: Nothing new here...
nothing much new to say. My sense is that the recent PRs put out by WAVX--mainly development deals, contracts to do this or that, blah, blah, blah--signal one thing: There aren't any actual SALES. Which should come as no surprise, since there is zero evidence that "enterprises" are adopting this technology. I continue to believe that TCG will merely become one in a string of do-nothing-that-matters organizations that mainly exist to protect members' turf (a la FINREAD and Cyber-Comm).
Revenue estimates, especially those put out by our esteemed colleague Go-Kite, are going to be way off the mark. For one thing, the $340,000 in deferred revenues from that contract announced at the end of Q3 are not necessarily going to be recognized in Q4. In fact, they almost certainly will not be. I look for a miniscule portion of that amount to come into the revenue stream in Q4.
I frankly will be surprised if revenues top $100K in Q4. Which, of course, will not deter so-called executive compensation committee from granting more fat bonuses to the incompetents who masquerade as officers.
Now, back to the salt mines...
Feeney, of course, should be summarily fired...
for sitting on his proverbial thumb while his boss cooks up cash flow scenarios that are so out of touch with reality they make Donald Trump look like Chainsaw Al Dunlap.
Here's a hint Feeney:
When your boss come up with this sort of utter crap, might I suggest you offer some form of objection? Some tempering of the abject lunacy? Otherwise, you are not a man. You are a lap dog.
That's three and out.
This time last year, Steven Sprague...
reportedly emailed a Wavoid a message in which he clarified his cash flow breakeven in 2004 point. He then went on to redefine the term, eliminating any "ramp-up" costs from the equation. Which then would freeze the cost structure (for purposes of his definition) at approximately $5 million per quarter. This was a year ago. So far, this year, he's yet to hit $100K in a quarter. Maybe my calculator's broken, but it's tellin me he's missed another projection by 98%. Which would be the second revenue projection he's missed by that amount in 4 years. Two of which he refused to give any guidance. So he's oh-fer-two with an average miss of 98%.
This would be abysmal enough to garner him a severance check from every single publicly listed entity in the Western World, but it's not all. The e-mail he reportedly sent was in direct contradiction of guidance given at a shareholder meeting in which apparently much wiser folks (on the board) indicated a 2005-2006 time frame for cash flow breakeven.
God. Even the Rigas family would fire a son this incompetent. (Or, perhaps, delusional. Third choice? Dishonest.) Fortunately for Steven, he has a cult behind him.
24601: My record on forward-looking statements...
actually, is pretty good, in my opinion. Just off the top of my head:
1. Cyber-comm would be a dud.
2. Ditto FINREAD.
3. The Envoy "product launch" was a joke (if the product existed at all).
4. Dongles were a stopgap that would never pan out.
5. The so-called $10 million development deal with the garment business folks was bogus. (Because the BIZ folks didn't have a pot to piss in, among other reasons.)
6. Wavoid Nation's expectations of the time it would take to hit $187 per share were utter lunacy.
7. The $21 million revenue projection for 2001 was insanely optimistic.
8. Last year's projection of cash flow breakeven by Q4 2004 (even using Steven's amended definition of the term) was ridiculous.
So. Let's see. Point by point:
1. Right. Cyber-comm = zilch in revenues.
2. Right. FINREAD yet to deploy squat.
3. Right. Zero measurable sales. Apparently one or two Wavoids were foolish enough to actually buy the stupid thing, so I will yield on the point there actually was some physical thing they could point to.
4. Right. Dongles? Seriously?
5. Right. Over the strenuous objections of one Mr. 24601, mainly.
6. Right. Only I underestimated the extent of the insanity.
7. Right. Oh, yeah. It was a "binary" thing. Unfortunately, as usual, the coin flip came up tails again.
8. Right. $5 million in cash flow per quarter Steven was touting just a year ago. For this quarter. Based on what crystal ball is anybody's guess.
In all fairness, I have suggested there could be a buyout and that never happened. Actually, that would have required half a brain in the executive suite at Lee, MA and among the assembled leaders there doesn't appear combined to be a half-brain.
Anyway, I could go on. But you get the point. Maybe. In any event, my prognostications are clearly labeled as opinion. Opinion without any inside information. Your CEO has all the inside information that exists. And he still comes up with projections that can only be explained by:
a. stupidity
b. delusional thinking, or
c. the desire to placate his cult followers regardless of whether it takes a stream of misleading statements to do so.
I don't know. You choose.
24601: Pathetic response...
counselor. Your CEO defends a $21 million revenue projection in August of 2001--a year in which the company falls 95% short of that figure. Undeterred, your CEO suggests cash flow break-even for 2004 in November of 2003. This time, he won't even hit 5% of his projection! Some of us, counselor, knew that was utter bullshit and said so at the time. Hmmm. I think I might have been one of those.
Honest to God, there isn't a SINGLE CEO ON NASDAQ who would still have his job with such a record of idiotic/insane/intentionally misleading (choose one) guidance.
I'd love to see Steven's spreadsheets that led him to make the 2004 projections. They must be quite hilarious. And, of course, Feeney sat by with his thumb up his ass. As usual.
Only a cult, John. Only a cult puts up with this sort of thing.
Interesting post on WAVX (from Yahoo)
and, of course, deleted by Snackman at IHUB in his relentless effort to control the information flow (aided and abetted by his prostitute friend Matt).
(Thank you GregS.)
Facts, truth...
by: sane_butevil_fuzzball (23/M/Plainsboro, NJ)
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 11/17/04 05:22 pm
Msg: 62622 of 62710
Look, it's pretty simple. Wave System in so many years has not broke even. At all. They have a product that can sell (to a certain extent) but the sales guy don't seem to push it hard enough. So what if 1$ / board is received. YOU STILL DON'T BREAK EVEN. In other words, this is a sign of very BAD management. When your CEOs get shitloads of money and don't do jack, this is BAD. (About the only one working for wavoids/wavexpress from the administration that gives a crap and break his balls is Michael (I wonder how he can put up with all this...)).
Any of us that used to work for wave systems/ wavexpress could tell you the same. It's not the engineers that are the problem, just the administration and sales. There has not been any market analysis done, no marketting plan and not even a REAL business plan. How in the hell can someone be stupid enough to invest in the company? All the management do is gozzle down big pay checks. Meanwhile, the employees suffer from pay cuts / workforce reductions (for both wave systems and wavexpress).
Steven is a moron, and we all know that (He just can't run a business, sorry bud, but that's what you look like). Peter is just a figure head that does the bare minimum (by the way, how can you guys keep him on wavexpress when he stole close to 1.5 million dollars of wave systems?!) Dave, well, do you work for us? Or just get paid since you're college buddies with steven?
Now now, whenever I hear that TPM is common to store your certificates/private keys and that the common mortal uses it, ok, ya'll might be CLOSE to breaking even, or at least, poke interest into some companies to get there. Heck, I might even buy your stuff. Meanwhile, you got ways to go.
Right now, what you need to do is to get the company straight; wavesystems/wavexpress. Ya'll can make that money, you've just been taking the wrong path the whole way. I'm no business administration professional, but I got my basics about it in college. I've never ran a company and I could do better for gods sake. All you need is a plan, a strong methodology and ethics, which you completely lack.
Now, you know what, shove that 1$ up the yingyang and THINK. I give you a couple more months before you get delisted from NASDAQ, and maybe 2-3 years before the whole thing finally shuts down. (It's amazing the financial miracles that happenned there... ~250 millions down the hole and this is where you at.)
Posted as a reply to: Msg 62612 by nxtflatpanel
Matt: I do...
By Snackman and the rest of the Wavoids. Why else would I be banished to the jailhouse when I'm apparently the only person long that stock who made any money on it? When I'm apparently the only person (at this site anyway) who can see through management's neverending stream of bullshit?
Not that I'm complaining. At least my posts aren't subject to Snackman's eraser over here.
Anyway. You asked.
P.S. Do you make it to Mervyn's for the big Veteran's Day sale? Haggars for $29.95!
24601: Actually, no one's been righter...
than me about this stock. Oh, sure, I've been wrong on a prognostication or two. But, bottom line, I was the one who sold this thing at $14 while you and the rest of the cult have watched it decline by something like 95%. Other than you, I can't think of a single long who claims to be in the black on WAVX. And, for some reason, you are reluctant to say how and more importantly when you managed to achieve your profits.
Be that as it may, it astonishes me that you continue to make excuses for the incredibly sloppy "guidance" the CEO of this company puts out. My prognostications are based purely on guesswork. I have no inside information. I have no Gerry Feeney looking over my shoulder at my spreadsheets (or making them for me). Despite being completely in the dark on the inner workings of this company, it seemed obvious that cash flow break-even in 2004 was a ludicrous proposition when he made it. In hindsight I would expect even you could see that. But maybe not.
Unclever: Point taken...
So if you add the g&a to the r&d expenses you get $2,812,389 for the first 9 months of 2004 versus $2,966,735, a net reduction of $154,346 or 5.2%.
At least it's not an increase, but I still think Steven's claim to be "starving" WaveXpress for resources is an exaggeration.
How is it possible...
that WAVE CEO Steven Sprague thought it was not just possible, but likely his company would reach cash flow breakeven in 2004? What assumptions was he using to come up with that well documented piece of lunacy? (Lunacy fully endorsed by the inmates of Wavoid Nation, as usual).
Jesus. Cults are amazing things. Truly amazing.
That's three and out.
Let's revisit the past for a moment...
A slightly edited version of an earlier post to 24601 bears repeating, as follows:
Steven Sprague's "guidance" on 2004 cash flow, specifically. You remember? It was in November, 2003, I think, following the SHM in which certain more mature board members discussed a 2005 - 2006 time frame for achieving cash flow breakeven. Your CEO actually went to the trouble to e-mail a Wavoid and contradict this sensible talk with his explanation that he, er, sorta forgot to include ramp-up costs in his version of break-even. His position at that juncture was that break-even was his expectation for 2004, if additional ramp-up costs were excluded from the model. This, in my opinion, will prove to be as misleading as his defense of the PGE revenue projection of 2001 in which--in July of that year--he defended a $21 million revenue projection, only to fall something like $20 million short. Wavoids at that time, as usual, dreamed up something else to cheer about and forgave him the egregious over-estimation.
Here is my prediction: There is ZERO CHANCE this company even remotely approaches cash flow breakeven--even if you completely eliminate all so-called "ramp-up" expenses. One would have to be completely out of their mind to think this is a possibility. Completely insane. Which, of course, describes a fair number of Wavoids when it comes to what they like to call investing.
This belongs on the WAVX board...
Verbatim quote from 3rd Qtr CC:
"SKS: Well, I’ll be fair. I think we’re starving them for a little bit of resource in the marketplace. They’re very focused on a number of different projects that they’re continuing to pursue. And from my aspect, WaveXpress is a tremendous service. It’s a little early in its time as it relates to what we’re doing in the Trusted Computing space. Today people are focused on: how do I turn a platform on; where do I get my keys. Not, how do I subscribe to some content based service. There’s a number of very interesting opportunities we continue to pursue with them. I’d love to have a very similar vertical, like real estate is for the ETS Suite, for WaveXpress. And so we’re focused on that. And in some aspects I think that it’s really nice dry ammunition for Wave. As we continue to demonstrate that we can not only provide the lower level software but also provide some of the application space in the market to demonstrate how Trusted Computing is used. WaveXpress becomes a very powerful tool for us. So we’re being careful with our expenditures, watching our burn rate, and a result we’re probably starving some of the opportunities that WaveXpress has today. I think it’s the right thing for us to do at this point in time."
And here is the reality:
From 10Q filed 11/15/04:
"...Wavexpress' selling, general and administrative expenses, which were $1,552,549 and $1,466,785 for the nine months ended September 30, 2004 and 2003, respectively. The 6% increase was attributable to additional dedicated phone lines for data transmission and costs associated with a new data center."
Remark:
WaveXpress spending increased year-over-year. All that "Wavexpress is being starved for resources..." will be forgiven by the Wavoids (especially the lie-to-me Steven crowd of zen, weby, etc.) as the usual, completely acceptable, Sprague-speak. My own opinion is that those who condone lies from their CEO are utterly deserving of an investment gone bust. But then, that's me.
WaveXpress is being "starved"...
according to Steven K. Sprague:
"SKS: Well, I’ll be fair. I think we’re starving them for a little bit of resource in the marketplace. They’re very focused on a number of different projects that they’re continuing to pursue. And from my aspect, WaveXpress is a tremendous service. It’s a little early in its time as it relates to what we’re doing in the Trusted Computing space. Today people are focused on: how do I turn a platform on; where do I get my keys. Not, how do I subscribe to some content based service. There’s a number of very interesting opportunities we continue to pursue with them. I’d love to have a very similar vertical, like real estate is for the ETS Suite, for WaveXpress. And so we’re focused on that. And in some aspects I think that it’s really nice dry ammunition for Wave. As we continue to demonstrate that we can not only provide the lower level software but also provide some of the application space in the market to demonstrate how Trusted Computing is used. WaveXpress becomes a very powerful tool for us. So we’re being careful with our expenditures, watching our burn rate, and a result we’re probably starving some of the opportunities that WaveXpress has today. I think it’s the right thing for us to do at this point in time."
It will be interesting to see if the 10Q supports this starvation scenario. My guess is Peter Sprague, Michael Sprague, and Dave Nadig remain on the payroll.
This belongs on the WAVX board....
where, of course it would be immediately deleted by Il Duce himself.
My dear Wavoids, what is it about Steven's remarks you don't understand? He said, "We have an active shelf registration and we expect to utilize that shelf registration to continue to fund operations of the company. We believe at this point in time the right thing for us to do is to continue to use the capital that we have, to make progress in the market, show the development and the relationships that we have, and maintain as much liquidity as possible and the ability to go raise capital in the market."
What this means is--just what it says--he intends to use the shelf registration to capitalize the company. In other words, dilution, dilution, dilution.
I already ate one plate of crow...
frankly, I'm still amazed by the election results. Gotta take my hat off to Karl Rove. The constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage was brilliant politics.
As to my stock-picking, I'm on the sidelines and have been since October, 2000. Except for a touch of APC (Anadarko Petroleum) and a European-oriented mutual fund DODFX (as a currency play, mainly).
Maybe one of these days the market will look good to me again. I'm thinking 2009 or so.
WaveXpress is a complete joke...
that's done nothing but suck money out of WAVX's coffers from the get-go. Of course a good chunk of the money sucked goes to Mr. Peter Sprague, who may or may not still be running the so-called subsidiary. Another goodly chunk goes to son number 2, Mr. Michael Sprague, who as far as I know never managed to even get a college degree, let alone work a day in his life.
Note to Wavoids: You deserve this. Richly. Hasta la vista.
Obviously that belongs on the WAVX board...
where it would be immediately deleted by Snackman (or Il Duce as I like to think of him). There would be no justification for the deletion under IHUB TOU. But Snack would delete it and his whore Matt would uphold the deletion. No offense to Matt, of course. He knows what he is. I suspect he is quite proud of it.
Dig Space: You don't know...
what those $66,000 in revenues come from. Sounds to me like they are something other than unit sales of any sort. And that $340,000 contract is for what? Co-developing something with another set of garment industry folks?
All I know is that this time last year your peerless leader, Mr. Steven Sprague, was saying the company would be at cash flow break-even by now. And, naturally, Wavoid Nation bought it. Again. The gullibility of your group is beyond comprehension.
I said it then and I'll say it now. Steven Sprague's assertion last year of Q4 2004 break-even was symptomatic of:
1. Dementia evidenced by lunatic-level optimism.
2. Unparalleled greed.
3. Utter and complete incompetence as a CEO.
If I had the opportunity to question the man I would ask only this: What in the hell were you thinking when you made that projection? Was there any logical support for it at all?
Your pal,
My parole date must be coming up soon...
I think you outta let me out, Matt, old boy. I promise I won't heckle you about Mervyn's anymore. Or Supercuts.
Your friend,
Sorry, left Louisiana out...
Make that Kerry 301 to Bush 237.
Hamhock predicts: Kerry will win...
with 49.7% of the popular vote, versus 48.1% for Bush, 1.2% for Nader, 1.0% for all other.
Electoral college - Kerry 301 to Bush 228.
Matt: Do you even LOOK AT the deletions...
that your pal Snackman imposes? Considering you let him hide behind yer skirt, I would think you might pay some attention, but perhaps not. IHUB is even worse than that Agora outfit.
This belongs on the WAVX board...
which is even more inane and useless than usual thanks to the relentless censorship of the dimwitted monitor Snackman.
Revenues will be under $40K...
and possibly way under. No one is buying this TCG stuff yet and they very likely never will. Today's CC was moved up--my guess--because the brain trust in Lee wants to accelerate the funding process and they want to get the financial information public sooner rather than later.
I'm sure Sonny-boy will find something to be excited about today, though. Heck, bonuses aren't that far off. Not that he'll want to talk much about that.
One possible explanation for the early CC: Changes in the management team (Feeney exits?) that needs to get public before it leaks out.
Slow Boat Veterans...
for Something Like the Truth...
is the name of it. A bit of a misnomer, perhaps. None of us actually served on any boats. The membership consists of all those veterans who, advised of their duty station, prayed for transport via Slow Boat.
I have a 527 to run...
at the moment. But eventually I will get back to you all. Maybe. The Wavoids are beginning to bore me, to tell the truth.
Matt: Fortunately prostitution is not illegal...
in cyberspace, anyway. Otherwise, you might have something to worry about.
Hasta la vista!