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Lanktree is converting approx $900K of their death spiral shares
ASR common has lost 98.7% of its price since the reverse split, I assume that the news that every says is coming must be pretty awful..
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well i hate to admit I was right....nice dump of what i believe are death spiral conversion shares, and almost a 20% decline in ASR PPS.
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13:13:12 0.003 334985 OBB
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12:54:37 0.003 106016 OBB
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10:37:38 0.0029 450000 OBB
10:33:42 0.0029 230 OBB
10:25:09 0.0029 10000 OBB
09:54:42 0.0028 859100 OBB
09:54:13 0.0029 5000 OBB
09:53:55 0.0029 163500 OBB
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09:42:13 0.0032 5000 OBB
09:42:07 0.003 127000 OBB
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09:41:49 0.0033 5000 OBB
I guess this prediction from last Tuesday never panned out
Why do I get the feeling there will be positive news from ASR this week?
Approx $700 worth of ASR traded so far today.
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14:54:33 0.0033 50000 OBB
14:42:04 0.0033 150 OBB
14:41:22 0.0033 130300 OBB
14:31:32 0.0034 15000 OBB
09:40:18 0.0033 2000 OBB
Still only one trade for $6 bucks....I will be curious to see if there is a late afternoon trade(s) that allows a huge dump of the toxic / death spiral conversion shares. I say this because a saw a post elsewhere from someone who said no shares were available, albeit that the individual in question is highly discredited and disreputable at best, but still, even a blind squirrel stumbles on a acorn every now and then.
One trade today for $6 bucks.
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They can also operate on an impact system for higher volume items. Their POS system automatically orders every time a unit scans through the UPC reader at time of checkout.
their ROBOT formula is: 10 week rolling ave unit sales (ave # unit sales per store per week) + order review time (how often they order the item) + min order qty (how many units they must order at one time) delivery lead time (how long it takes to get the order delivered) + safety OOS (the number of extra units they keep on hand as a reserve)
Hopefully the results were good and management is pushing the rep firm to get permanent placement. Sometimes if the results were not great in all regions, they will authorize the item in the region (s) were it preformed. They look for 18 turns per year, that means that if the store stocks 5 units as its minimum in store safety stock they need to sell 90 units per store year or about 8 per month to keep it in the store.
Best Buy; I have searched via their website in multiple regions before and just did a quickie review and have only found ASR's product available via drop ship into the stores and have not found ant stores that carry it on their shelves.
I reality since they have free shipping, it would not make sense to go to the store when they can ship to your home. Of course $50.00 is really pricey. Its sold fairly regularly at $30 or less.
If in fact a major retailer has actually put any ASR product on the shelf, that would be a big plus which I am sure they would PR. This test has been going on since September, best buy tests usually run 90 days. I have never seen any shorter than that. I have not seen them PR the test results which a manufacturer gets on a daily sell through basis.
Please post a link if you find any stores that actually carry it on the shelf.
I also said that speculative posting is fine as is speculative investing. I don't care about ASR and what investors or traders choose to do, I just object to people directly urging others under false pretenses, to invest, as has been done time and again, but the 1st amendment exists for a reason.
When I point something out such as mirror trades, everyone is free to disregard, ignore or even give it some consideration.
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There are many that criticize my take on things and characterize it as bashing...the easy solution is not to read anything I post.
I lost about $24k here...my loss. Did not change my life, but others here have lost less and more, and their losses did have an impact on their lives. They have posted here to that effect.
There was a post here on Jan 17th, that big news would be coming out on ASR last week. I responded that I saw no reason for that prediction...........Therefore I would have to guess last week was another with a "Big News" prediction not coming to fruition.......
15:26:27 0.0035 5000 OBB
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13:28:08 0.0033 18297 OBB
13:28:05 0.0033 100000 OBB
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10:02:00 0.0033 60000 OBB
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09:41:46 0.0033 25000 OBB
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09:30:16 0.0033 33500 OB
It's awfully quiet in ASR land....or is that quietly awfull?
What ever happened to the highly promoted stockholder meeting that was supposed to occur at the company's HQ in January?
This should be a net positive. The company desperately needs help in re-structuring its supply chain. In the asian business culture, familiarity with their business culture, customs and idiosyncrasies is extremely important.
Bloomberg profile of Paul Cohen's last employer, includes listing of key executives.
January 25, 2012 7:51 AM ET
CONSUMER DISCRETIONARY SECTOR
TEXTILES, APPAREL & LUXURY GOODS INDUSTRY
CHINA TING GROUP HLDGS LTD
(3398:Hong Kong)
LAST $0.50 HKD
CHANGE TODAY +0.01 2.04%
VOLUME 502.0K
3398 On Other Exchanges
As of 3:01 AM 01/20/12 All times are local (Market data is delayed by at least 15 minutes).
SnapshotNewsChartsFinancialsEarningsPeopleTransactions
OverviewBoard MembersCommittees
KEY EXECUTIVES - CHINA TING GROUP HLDGS LTD (3398)
Name Board Relationships Title Age
Hung-Yi Ting 7 Relationships Chief Executive Officer, Executive Director, Chairman of Nomination Committee and Chairman of Remuneration Committee 50
Man Yi Ting 7 Relationships Chairman 54
Yinger Ding No Relationships General Manager of Finance 61
Ren Shen No Relationships President of China Ting Fashion Group (USA) LLC and President of JV/China Ting LLC 35
Ho Lung Cheng CPA, ACCA No Relationships Company Secretary, Qualified Accountant and Finance & Accounting Manager 33
Jianer Ding 7 Relationships Executive Director 51
Wood Sharon Angela Ng No Relationships Vice President of Investor Relations & Global Business Development and Director of Sales - Europe 62
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Board Members - CHINA TING GROUP HLDGS LTD (3398)
Name Board Relationships Primary Company Age
Man Yi Ting 7 Relationships China Ting Group Holdings Ltd 54
Hung-Yi Ting 7 Relationships China Ting Group Holdings Ltd 50
Jianer Ding 7 Relationships China Ting Group Holdings Ltd 51
Che Hung Leung 7 Relationships China Ting Group Holdings Ltd 45
Ting Yin Cheung 7 Relationships China Ting Group Holdings Ltd 49
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Paul Cohen's (new ASR board member) former company till 12/2011
China Ting Fashion Group LLC
525 Fashion Avenue # 1601
New York, NY 10018-0545 map
Website:
Information not found
Phone:
(212) 716-1600
About China Ting Fashion Group LLC
China Ting Fashion Group LLC in New York, NY is a private company categorized under Women's Clothing Stores. Our records show it was established in 2005 and incorporated in New York. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $1 to 2.5 million and employs a staff of approximately 10 to 19.
Best as I can tell over half the trades today were share swaps..
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15:52:18 0.0033 48000 OBB
15:46:04 0.0031 50000 OBB
14:55:34 0.0031 245677 OBB
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10:04:18 0.0028 85204 OBB
10:03:29 0.0029 85204 OBB
09:59:32 0.0028 20000 OBB
09:58:49 0.0028 700000 OBB
09:58:42 0.003 5000 OBB
looks like more ASR share swaps again
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14:55:34 0.0031 245677 OBB
14:55:34 0.0031 245677 OBB
14:45:41 0.0031 600 OBB
13:14:45 0.0033 10000 OBB
10:04:18 0.0028 85204 OBB
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Nickelback, you comment in your post that you anticipate news and future events, would you please tell me what the news is that you expect and when you expect it, also what future events are you anticipating and when do you anticipate these will come to fruition.
Additionally what is your opinion regarding the myriad of prior posts here by various individuals after the appointment of the new ceo, that big news was coming or that something big is in the works, since none of those materialized. Also there was many posts that he was most likely planning a big merger, do you have any information that supports those posts? An edjucated guess is fine with me.
Thank you in advance.
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10:04:18 0.0028 85204 OBB
10:03:29 0.0029 85204 OBB
09:59:32 0.0028 20000 OBB
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09:58:42 0.003 5000 OBB
nope not showing up, neither do they show up on any other board
must be a problem with me.
nothing new.
how come the volume info and pps box with chart has been removed? Is this a problem with my system or has it been intentionally removed?
good for you, how many did you get? I wish you well on this and all investments. I just wrote my check to the IRS for 2011, was not pleasant... most of my holdings gained, particularly GE and GM. Both of which I liquidated.
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15:29:29 0.003 1352179 OBB
13:36:06 0.003 1353510 OBB
In my opinion the best news that could come for the ASR common share holders, is that math has been suspended and is no longer a credible science.
From there on out any math pertaining to the realities of ASR, its PPS and the company's operating results will be officially "A GUESS".
Anyone quoting company filings, the trading details and marketplace rejection of ASR and it's products on the retail shelves, anyone sharing those verifiable ASR facts is officially guessing.
in response to nickelbck, who said:
makeamint, hypothesis is an edjucated guess! Look it up!
Every time a few trades go through we get a post containing hypothesis!
Stop Guessing!!!
It is in fact an "EDJUCATED" guess. It's based on actual ASR filings, ASR disclosures both in their filings and by their "IR" that death spiral convertible debenture holders were in fact converting and the registration of at least 10,000,000 of those death spiral shares.
and since i don't post after every few trades but only after the trades add up to an obvious if coincidental mirror image of each other and most often within seconds of each other....
Now when people start crowing about enormous trades and refuse to consider any thing other than a global thirst for the common shares of ASR, and continually propose the preposterous idea that huge news is coming from ASR, which by the way has never happened, and those same people propose the idea that a new CEO, who has no experience in the industry, has no experience dealing with the retail trade, who lives over 2500 miles from the company and has no other staff or physical facilities at his location, that are in any way related to the company, its products or its customers, the same company whose common shares have lost over 98% of their post split price, and the same company whose common shares outstanding have more than than tripled, and whose common now stands art a pre-split equivalent of over 12 BILLION thats billion with a B, when people start promoting those totally speculative scenarios in my opinion is cause for concern.
Just these trades which in my opinion and based on the SEC filings as well as their debentures death spiral covenants, appear to be a sham transaction
These trades account for approximately 2.7 million shares or approx 65% of today's volume.
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13:28:41 0.003 306000 OBB
13:11:34 0.003 434000 OBB
13:10:58 0.003 194000 OBB
12:53:28 0.003 600000 OBB
best as I can tell, the ASR conversion shares illusion appears to be continuing.
You see below in the individual trade detail a 1.353 million share trade, however the trades preceding JUST SO HAPPEN to be the equivalent of that trade except for a 1530 +/- shares or $4.50 give or take a dime.
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13:36:06 0.003 1353510 OBB
13:28:41 0.003 306000 OBB
13:11:34 0.003 434000 OBB
13:10:58 0.003 194000 OBB
12:53:28 0.003 600000 OBB
Math ain't guessing.
in reply to Nickelback, who said that that my post regarding ASR is guessing and that I "Stop Guessing". My hypothesis regarding what is happening with the ASR trades, which is supported by actual SEC filings, published articles and direct verifiable evidentiary if not dispositive documented events and facts, is not by definition, guessing, however posting comments like "SOMETHING BIG IS IN THE WORKS" or the ever popular "BIG NEWS COMING NEXT WEEK" those are absolutely guessing.
same game being played today
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I posted this last week to explain death spirals
This article which was published by a prestigious securities law firm, clearly describes the death spiral financing strategy, their structure and likely fallout. If you look at the ASR convertible debentures and their attendant SEC filings, I believe you will see a direct parallel.
Copyright @2008 Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP. All rights reserved. www.procopio.com ¦ 1
CLOGGING THE PIPES: THE SEC CRACKS DOWN ON "DEATH SPIRAL" CONVERTIBLES
By John P. Cleary, Esq.
Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP
PIPE is an acronym for a private
investment in public equity. In a PIPE,
a publicly traded company issues
securities with a commitment to
register the securities for resale
promptly upon closing the
transaction. The Securities and
Exchange Commission (SEC) has
permitted PIPE transactions through
Rule 152 under the Securities Act of
1933, as amended, which provides a
safe harbor for issuers completing
private placement offerings and
subsequently registering the
securities for resale to the public.
Typically, the SEC raises no objection
when securities are privately placed
with the closing of the transaction
contingent on the filing or
effectiveness of a resale registration
statement as long as (a) the
purchasers in the private placement
are irrevocably bound to purchase the
securities subject only to the filing or
effectiveness of the registration
statement, and (b) the purchase price
is established at the time of the
private placement. These are known
as "traditional" PIPEs. Traditional
PIPEs typically attract long terminvestors
who are betting on the
performance of the company and its
stock price.
In recent years, non-traditional, or
"structured" PIPEs have evolved in
which the first-step private placement
involves the sale of debt securities
that are convertible into common
stock at a conversion price that
automatically adjusts downward if the
company’s share price falls below the
initial conversion price. Unlike
traditional PIPEs, the purchase price
is not set at the time of
the private placement and the
debenture is convertible for a fixed
dollar amount rather than a specific
number of shares. These have been
colloquially dubbed "toxic" or "deathspiral"
convertibles, and have drawn
the intense scrutiny of the SEC.
The Mechanics of a "Death-Spiral"
When there is no limit on the
downward adjustment of the
conversion price, the prospect of
large-scale conversions and sales at
declining prices can create selling
pressure which pushes the issuer’s
share price downward. Structured
PIPE investors are ambivalent
towards the performance of the
company because they can reap
substantial gains as the stock spirals
downward.
To illustrate the strategy, an investor
will short sell the company's stock at a
price of "X" per share. A high volume
of short selling pushes the share price
down to X-1. The investor’s
conversion price is then reset to the
discounted X-1. The investor then
partially converts the debenture at X-
1 to cover the shares it sold at X,
delivers the shares necessary to cover
the short sales and has a large number
of shares left over, which it can then
sell when the price hits X-2. The more
the investor pushes down the market
price with this strategy, the more
profit it makes on each conversion. If
the investor short sells at X per share,
it will make much more if it can
convert its shares to cover at X-4 than
it will make by covering at X-2. The
"death spiral" continues until the
company is forced to issue huge
amounts of virtually worthless stock.
The investor already locked in its
profit with short sales while the
ordinary shareholders get crushed.
The SEC Acts to Curb PIPE Abuses
To give PIPE investors the liquidity of
marketable securities, after the
closing the issuer has to register
resales of the PIPE shares through a
Rule 415 shelf registration. Starting
about a year ago, many issuers began
receiving SEC comments on their
resale registration statements
questioning whether they were
eligible to register resales of the PIPE
shares. The SEC was taking the
position that the issuers receiving the
new Rule 415 comment were seeking
to register so many shares that their
PIPE transaction should be treated as
a primary offering rather than a
private placement followed by
separate secondary distributions by
the PIPE investors.
The SEC – through its staff in public
speaking engagements – recently has
cautioned that comments should be
expected when an issuer registers for
resale more than one-third of its
outstanding shares held by nonaffiliates.
Because the number of
conversion shares is virtually
unlimited in structured PIPE
transactions, the SEC’s action is, for
the most part, directed toward the
abuses of "death spiral" convertibles.
As a result of the SEC’s stance on Rule
415, most "death spiral" convertibles
have either been converted to
traditional PIPEs or aborted.
It appears that issuers engaged in
JULY 2008
JOHN P. CLEARY
Copyright @2008 Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP. All rights reserved. www.procopio.com ¦ 2
traditional PIPE transactions selling
securities at fixed prices should
continue to be able to rely on the
SEC’s historical position in PIPE
transactions, particularly if the
amount of securities sold is relatively
small in relation to the public float.
Convertible Debt in Microcap
Financings
Although the SEC’s recent action to
protect microcap issuers has helped
curb abuses, issuers still must be
vigilant against predatory investors
seeking convertible debt instruments.
Typically, PIPE transactions impose
upon the issuer a contractual
commitment to file a resale
registration statement and use its best
efforts to have it declared effective by
the SEC. More often than not, the
issuer is subject to cash penalties if
the SEC does not declare the resale
registration statement effective within
a stated time period. As a result of
these provisions, PIPE investors who
have their liquidity blocked by the
SEC are able to effectively rescind
their investment through the
liquidation clause.
No matter what the SEC’s position,
issuers should avoid structured PIPEs
at all costs and maintain some control
over dilution by insisting on limits on
adjustments in conversion rates and
liquidated damages. "Death spiral"
convertible debentures are, in most
cases, the kiss of death when it comes
to financing for a company seeking to
raise capital.
Mr. Cleary is an attorney with Procopio,
Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP.
Reach him at 619.515.3221 or
jpc@procopio.com.
nothing to do with market makers as other would want you to think, this is strictly an orchestrated manipulation that facilitates the insiders and their debenture holders sell off their shares. In a death spiral note, the exercise price is not fixed on a per share PPS. It is based on the dollar amount of the note and the lower the PPS the more shares they get. Then they drive the price up with these tactics and dump blocks at enormous gains.
That is why the outstanding has more than tripled in the last few months to over 12 Billion pre split equivalent shares .
the trades below show that almost exactly the same number of shares moved just a little earlier (1,558,000 vs 1,566,000). an 8,000 share or $25 variance. If you go thru the math and analyze the individual trades I don't think this is a coincidence. In my opinion this was also a ploy to create the appearance of demand. In other words, the convertible debenture holders are trying to make it look like there is a demand so they create sham trades. They move the shares back and forth. They dont release them for sale till there is a backlog, then they dump big blocks. There have been over 10,000,000 shares registered as per the filings by just one of these debt holders. The convertible debentures are Death Spiral notes that guarantee them an endless supply of shares so they can short the stock and increase their gains. That is why none of the magic bullet pr rumors have come to fruition.
15:12:20 0.003 200000 OBB
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14:53:04 0.003 579000 OBB
14:53:02 0.003 579000 OBB
actually Pepe if you look at the trade detail you may see that it was a share swap trying to give the appearance of a buy. Just my opinion based on looking at the detail.
DONT FORGET HOW FAR NORTH SIBERIA IS...HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!!