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Whoever is proofreading is dumber than a box of rocks. *Due* to re-edits, not "Do".
It's the details with these guys that are really beginning to bother me.
That has me a bit concerned...It's leading me to believe that interest in this ticker is nominal. And, the only real volume has been from dilution over the past few months.
The other reality that is worrying is that once this ticks up to 5-6 there will be a massive dumping of shares.
Are you saying you have more information than what is being presented here?
What indicators are you basing that prediction off of? Do tell...
SAT - Out of curiosity, how much did you buy at .0035?
Muddy- I agree with you. I like this approach to critique HFBG. I'm just tired of hearing the same old baseless nonsense about RS, AD is Ghetto Club sweat, the Tea is bottled LJ piss, and on and on. Some claims are so far fetched that it's humorous.
I like that! I've had orders open for 3s all day and I've only been able to get a few nibbles here and there. I'll buy up your 3s if you want them sold.
I was in this early in the Summer when it dipped all the way to 2 and then stairstepped all the way back up to 9. The naysayers were singing the same tune: RS, dilution, Calvin is a crook, blah blah blah.
I made money then, and I'm going to make more here. So, dump your shares, get out, and get on with life.
You mean "restricted" shares? You do understand why those were increased, don't you? You also understand that they're restricted right? You should also understand the slush that is needed for uplisting, production, and distribution, right?
At least for argument's sake be thorough. The nitpick arguments are transparent. I'm not even a full-fledged HFBG supporter and I can see right through your attempts.
The PR that was written by SHG? The PR that was flawed and corrected due to SHG's mistakes? That PR? Is that the one that you're referring to?
I just want to make sure that one lie from another doesn't make the other true...The whole "Two Wrongs don't make a Right" deal...
Yes they will. Where are you getting your info from? I can rattle off at least 3-4 stocks that I'm looking at that are triples in the OTCQB. All of those stocks have more OS than HFBG and are doing just fine.
I'm all for skepticism and questioning, but just because you say one thing over and over enough times does not make it true.
Ghetto, I can agree with...I think that the Atomic Dogg campaign was terribly marketed and aimed at inner-city kids. It's too bad that those types of campaigns flourish in the poorer areas of the country; where pitbulls, thugs, crime, drugs, and rap music deals seem to be the only way out...
But, the raise of the A/S hasn't been instituted yet. And, to be honest, I don't see an issue with it either. They need to pay for production, they need to pay for a proper marketing team, they need to change a few things here and there...all of which costs money. Shares are sold, product and advertising are funded. It's the name of the game.
What I find fantastic is that one of the most respected posters on here works for a company that offered 504 funding to HFBG, but HFBG refused it and went their own route. Now that same poster is affiliated with SHG and seemingly has one purpose and that is to recruit minions and tarnish the PPS.
This will either go up, or it will fall flat on it's face. I am OK with either. But, there are good men working really hard to get this pushed out by Spring and Summer. So, my bet is good for another 3-4 months. Until then, you or any other *negative poster*'s argument on here simply does not hold water.
C'mon, I'm a skeptic and that's even far-fetched to me.
Everyone knew that it was impossible for a small underfunded group to hold down all the 3s, especially when guys were selling off shares and walking away.
The Share Increase has yet to begin, and if this volume is indicative of an "apocalyptic dump" then everyone will be just fine.
It's mind-boggling that people like you have enough time in the day to nit-pick every action (or non-action for that matter) of HFBG.
Just sit back and let things evolve. Either you'll be right, or you'll be wrong. But, no one can say for sure that the moment. Let it die, for now at least.
I've only been able to pick up just under 2mil today at 3. A PR will push this up to 5-6...It is what it is.
We're at a bit of a stalemate right now. No one wants to buy 4s and not too many people are willing to sell 3s...So, here we sit.
I suspect until there are decent sales reports we'll stay right here.
Lodr - As with most in here, we're forced to continue to play due to under-delivery on the behalf of HFBG.
Frelodr - You're correct. It is speculation on my part; based off of the PPS and recent happenings over the weekend.
I would be ecstatic if HFBG proves me wrong and turns it around. But, I've simply come to my own conclusions based on my experience with this company and expressed them here.
Until I'm proven wrong, I'm going to continue to side with my experience thus far.
Blab8 - I don't want to say that you're right just yet, but it sure feels that way. It's too bad too, because it seemed as if there was so much going for this company, but now business has been pushed to the wayside and drama has enveloped it.
I feel foolish as an investor here. I would not recommend this stock or company to anyone I know. I can only sit on the sidelines and watch as this company spirals more and more out of control.
I remember Twombly bragging more about his AAU basketball teams and how his kids are going pro than I did about the product. It was all about MVP or whatever his stupid juice was called and had NOTHING to do with HFBG.
And we wonder why its taking so long to get things going...Everyone wants a public company but doesn't want to work for it. Get to work!
It did exactly that. The CC was short and you could hear all the beeps in the background of callers signing off. The PPS then dropped off very quickly as investors realized that it was going to be a "long haul" stock.
It was nothing more than an opportunity for Twombly to bask in the limelight, work the PPS the next week or two, and then make his grand exit.
I have no doubt in my mind that SHG was trading and playing the stock. I suspect that I am only aware of a fraction of the nefarious actions conducted by their "team".
I was burned by Twombly during his exit and I am still not happy about it. He greased shareholders during the Conference Call, then released a string of premeditated PRs to pump the stock, and the PR just prior to him exiting stated something to the effect of "Big Changes are Coming to HFBG", but stated it in a positive manner. The PPS rocketed that day. The very next day he PR'd his "resignation".
It was planned, it was criminal, and a complete fabricated act to lure investors to buy in, only to be duped by Buzzy himself the very next day.
What I REALLY detest about him is that he hides behind a masquerade of "God Bless" and "Good Luck to All" comments, but in reality he is wolf in sheep's clothing; a snake in the grass ready to poison any passerby with no regard for the investor's well-being.
He is a manipulative and conniving individual with only his interests in mind. I am not surprised he is affiliated with SHG.
SHG is singing the same tune Twombly sang months back. They made a childish mistake in conduct and now they're paying for it; just like Twombly did on his walk of shame out of the door.
I'm not defending Calvin in the least bit, I think he's a slimeball. But, SHG and Twombly are sewn from the same cloth.
This reeks of disgruntled businessmen using Facebook to aggrandize themselves on baseless accusations.
I'm sorry, you're just not that important. If you were that valuable you would not have been replaced. Move along Buzzy, your 15 minutes are over.
I agree entirely. Is there a way to put him in a back room and still successfully move forward? Regardless of what he is "now" doing to right the ship, I think that there is far too much blood still in the water to avoid any/all trouble going forward.
We need someone with charisma, honesty, and someone that is literate to be the face of HFBG.
But, I don't think that Ross would be able to properly spell any title other than CEO. Maybe that's why he's still got the job.
Despite my differences in thought it was sincere. I'm honestly a bit taken back at the FB page of SHG. Not by the fact that guys are rallying to their cause, but simply because they've contrived some sort of righteous indignation to justify all of these accusations.
What gets me is that even if these accusations hold no ground and are completely baseless, it is going to cost us money in legal fees.
I'm not on a witchhunt and I don't like to vilify people, but man I'm dumbfounded by the actions of SHG, Twombly, and those involved with all of this.
What a Friday night. I sincerely hope that Laser, Dak, hooka, and AA are not intertwined into this web of deceit. Really, really serious accusations being tossed arounnd tonight.
Not a chance she'll post. I was sitting on those numbers all day and nothing significant cleared. Its empty gloating, that's all.
It's no secret that this company has been selling. Or, rather, the shares that they traded for production, advertisements, marketing, and structure have been sold into the market. This is not an issue, this is just business given the nature of this business.
You mentioned that they increased shares, but you didn't mention that we're also being upgraded to another market. The foundation has been laid, products and production paid for, and the upgrade and increase in shares are going to really allow for this company to grow in the coming year.
Sure, your outlook, within a time frame of a month or so, seems very drastic. I would run as fast as I can. But, you're not looking at this from the proper vantage point.
Your point with dilution is proven and I concede that, however, your points about blown structure, catastrophic failure, and criminal acts do not hold water.
All I am saying is that you need to step back and look at the bigger picture here instead of worrying about your weekly profits.
Sure, with your spin on it it's spiraling out of control. The PPS might dip to the 3's, but not for long. It's a purposeful increase; made for security and growth, not desperation and personal profits. It makes sense for the long term success of the company, not for the short term "investor".
And, for a company going national with multi-million dollar deals in the works, with ads and product to back it up, you better bet that they're going to need shares. They need funding, they need reserves, and they need to be able to deliver when they say that they're going to...All of that is impossible without money/shares.
I feel comfortable with this increase today and I hold a good position.
I'm going to make a boatload of cash on this stock in 2011.
intheclouds - So what? I honestly don't understand your issue. So, you're right. But, what of it? HFBG needs to produce and deliver. They need money to do that. This is how they do it.
I think that you're more concerned about being right and proving everyone in here wrong than you are about seeing the company succeed. Honestly, have substance in your posts rather than pointless bashing.
I just did the same thing on Etrade for about 700K and it executed at 4. Who knows with this thing.
SHG is an immediate imperative at this point. I did not find their response too far fetched or offensive. They fought fire with fire. I'm sure that they have about as much respect for the masked aliases and screen names on here as some do for them.
I would not think so highly that a few childish investors whining and crying on iHub are going to sway the relationship of SHG and HFBG.
It's much bigger than a few self-proclaimed experts on here.
I disagree completely.
You can have the greatest product in the world, but if you can't get it into the customer's hands fast enough, no one cares.
Ninja - It's crazy too. It's completely contrary to any other Pink I've been involved in...Any other Pink with news like this would have rocketed and at least made a bunch of folks a lot of money, then settled a bit. But, this is out of control and really tough to read. I just keep shaking my head.
Sit tight. We've weathered the worst of the storm. The Execs in place had a massive pile of crap dumped in front of them and to top it off everyone on here has been letting them know exactly that! Be still. It's going to take a little longer to get better. It will get better. Those that needed to be muzzled have been and despite the anxiety in recent weeks on this board it has seemed to calm in the past two days.
I feel much more confident adding to my position now that the board has leveled out and things are headed in the right direction.
I want to try and say something positive about that commercial clip, but I'm not really sure there is too much to say.
It's def late late late night local cable quality. Kinda makes me get a sinking feeling knowing that I've paid for part of that.
There are no infallible proofs. But speculation based on the PPS, trading channels, history of the previous dilution in the past 3 Q's, and current situation, it's safe to say that HFBG is continuing to dilute to raise money.
Whether diluting is beneficial in the long term has yet to be determined. The majority of "longs" are still here hoping that it will be, however.
I thought that You, Dak, and AA locked everyone else out of the 4s *shrugs*
The addition of SHG is a great positive. They level out the Float Lockdown Crew's daily pumping BS as well as the Doomsday Gang. Its refreshing to actually see some info that pertains to the reality of the stock and isn't MARKED IN BOLD AND CAPS like some constantly do as if to appear that their words actually carry any weight.
You're right. But at this point "They're damned if they do, damned if they don't". They need to raise capital and PRs are their main source of revenue at the moment. The pattern has been the same for close to a year. The comments and cries from both sides haven't changed at all either.
I would be surprised if any 4s were picked up today. I've got a decent order sitting on the bid and I've been chipping at the ask this morning to see how it's going to react. IMO I don't think it'll "pop" to 8s, but it does look as if a good foundation has been set and we wont see 3s or 4s again....That is, of course, if there are no more companies that have been paid in shares planning to dump.
Sportd - Thanks for the info. I don't know why, but responses like that from Calvin are the exact reason why I detest him.
Prospects for the company look great right now, it would seem that it's time for ALL Execs to act with the same professionalism that's been displayed in recent progressions.
It's almost as if they just need to put him in a backroom until this is over. IMO, he does more damage than good.