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i don't think the f/s for ptel or enti were entirely purposed towards getting "new" entrants...
i think that when a name change and f/s happen together, or a f/s, there's thoughts by the company that there are some issues with trading (shorting, etc)...
basically, little to no time for marketplace / mms / brokers / others to think about things and adapt.. hit fast, and see what happens...
here's something i wrote to somebody minutes ago ... just about word for word:
i have no idea if they will be tied up again...or when... (your question was about the "when"...i don't know when either ptel or enti f/s delivery will occur...last time, there was time needed for certs to get delivered to TA, etc...
just saying, it (some not having trading ability, and "D" being added) happened last time...for some brokerages, including Etrade..which offered the option to basically "short" last time..
interactive brokers and sharebuilder were brokers that somebody on the board said were trading entid normally during the spike last time
i'm going to try to avoid missing a spike this time..but wouldn't say i know it's going to happen the same way again...
but if i remember correctly, some bought AFTER the record date, and some with the "D" on enti when they bought, and were able to trade...
not anything i'm telling anyone to do...i'm just trying to identify the path last time, and hopefully find a way to navigate this time, should any significant action occur.
DO NOT KNOW, DIDN'T VERIFY WITH BROKERAGES... BUT >>>
BELOW are potentially relevant posts folks could consider... I have considered them, but i'm not saying anyone, should do anything... but this is where i started when studying prior f/s and "D", and pps spike, in anticipation/preparation for the current f/s being executed with "D" designation..
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Monday, May 09, 2011 4:16:17 PM
Re: bigpickker post# 114392
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'Sharebuilders' and 'Interactive Brokers' are two such brokerage firms that were mentioned by other posters on this Board
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Monday, May 09, 2011 4:03:51 PM
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What are the brokers that had the shares all set and ready to go and are currently trading ENTID?
Yes, well, understood folks have their own particular perspective...
but i look to where i'm going... if i'm staying, (everyone has/had a chance to exit every time there's a bid on L2), then i'm supporting...
but anyhoo.... i'm talking about navigating the water i'm in...and i believe that understanding the prior f/s and history helps with, potentially, better navigating the waters next time...
if a next time comes (spike or movement with "D" addition.
Interesting point: i DO believe it reasonable...
...for folks to consider, what happened last time the "D" was added, and how some WERE able to trade/buy/sell ENTI/ENTID....(huge spike happened, and some couldn't trade their then-held ENTI, but others could, and did, and i'm not saying company people either...regular shareholders on the board could...)
i believe it possible to trade (if/when "D" gets added, and if/when any upticks occur), with particular brokers, and believe many are already thinking the same thing...
i'd expect shares held "already" (up to record date, and even up to period where "D" gets added, maybe), to be possibly in the same boat they were with prior f/s....some won't be able to trade...maybe..don't know for sure... some brokers..no problems, others (etrade, for example
but i believe the way to navigate those waters is to be prepared this time... considering brokers, when I buy, what I buy, etc...
find the pattern last time, be prepared this time... i know many are actually thinking about this already... they've spoken about it.
by the way >>> have zero idea if any major upward movement will come this time with the f/s...just saying i think that folks that witnessed the spike last time there was a f/s, have opportunity to examine how to better position themselves for it this time..should any significant movement occur.
from 9/29 >> "ENCOUNTER TECHNOLOGIES CHANGES IT'S NAME TO ENCOUNTER DEVELOPMENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC. AND ANNOUNCES 5%"
http://www.prbuzz.com/technology/55310-encounter-technologies.html
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ENCOUNTER TECHNOLOGIES CHANGES IT'S NAME TO ENCOUNTER DEVELOPMENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC. AND ANNOUNCES 5%
ENCOUNTER TECHNOLOGIES CHANGES IT'S NAME TO ENCOUNTER DEVELOPMENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC. & ANNOUNCES 5% FORWARD STOCK SPLIT
/ PRBuzz.com / September 29, 2011 - - Encounter Technologies, Inc.(ENTI:PK), a company specializing in social media, video technology and on-line entertainment solutions, announced today it has filed an application with FINRA to change its name to Encounter Development Technologies, Inc. & reward its shareholders with a 5% forward split on the stock. The forward split has a record date of September 29, 2011. Prospective shareholders have until the end of market on Wednesday September 28th to purchase shares in order to qualify for the forward split and receive 5% additional shares.
According to Encounter CEO, Thomas Hargis, this move is calculated to position Encounter properly in the marketplace and attract investors who are interested in getting behind a leading edge product development company. Our goal is products and placement for both on and offline business infrastructures.
"This is an initiative we have had in the pipeline since I took the helm at Encounter," says ENTI CEO, Thomas Hargis. "We are looking to enhance our position in the marketplace as a technology incubation company and we want our name to reflect what we actually do."
"At Encounter we are making a play for more than just updating how people use social media, we are looking at how to make the most of our platform for businesses that are ready to take their productivity and innovation to the next level."
Mr. Hargis went on to say that he is looking at the enormous growth potential here because of the pressure businesses are feeling to stay current with technology and ahead of their competition.
"Our investors can rest assured we are working daily on creating new and useful ways businesses will be able to utilize all that Encounter has to offer."
Hargis added that there's already a buzz building around the Roar project and there's much more to come.
"When you are in development it can be hard to see the end of the road before the products actually roll out for demo," said Hargis. "But we are not resting on our laurels, even as we build Roar, other projects are coming together. We look forward to sharing with our investors the progress we make as we move closer to achieving both our short and long term goals for the company."
In the coming weeks investors can look forward to more news and updates on Roar! and other projects, as they move through the development process.
ABOUT ENCOUNTER DEVELOPMENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC (ENTI:PK)
Encounter Development Technologies, Incspecializes in social media, video technology and on-line entertainment web solutions. The Company utilizes pre-built applications to provide platforms for businesses interested in utilizing video technology to increase online collaboration and interaction. The goal is to provide clients with the best methods to increase user value and achieve desired business results. Simply put, Encounter Development Technologies, Inc transforms ideas into revenues. For more information about Encounter Development Technologies, Inc visit www.encountertech.com.
This press release contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended and such forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. You are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties that could cause future circumstances, events or results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors and other risks. You should consider these factors in evaluating the forward-looking statements included herein, and not place under reliance on such statements. The forward-looking statements in this release are made as of the date hereof and Encounter Development Technologies, Inc under take no obligation to update such statements.
INVESTOR RELATIONS CONTACT:
Encounter Development Technologies, Inc.
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don't know if this was posted before...i JUST read it / received this evening via "google alert">>>
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ENCOUNTER TECHNOLOGIES CHANGES IT'S NAME TO ...
ENCOUNTER TECHNOLOGIES CHANGES IT'S NAME TO ENCOUNTER DEVELOPMENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC. & ANNOUNCES 5%
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hi gm... thanks, i was actually looking to see...
what he was answering....
your subject line said "demo", but i didn't see you asking him to provide a link or info on the compression tech demo...
it'll clear up what we're seeing if he answered a question from you asking "compression tech demo?"..
i'll write him also and post here..
thanks for doing that work and sharing the info for sure.
take care,
nice legwork Briggsy...
looks like some of the dots are connecting as far as can be said from this vantage point...
relaunch of mmx, hopefully, comes with clarity on the multiple moving pieces that are becoming apparent...
take care
Regardless if one agrees with underlying premise or not...
f/s and name changes are thought to address issues known by or suspected by company mgmt.... there's some basic info on that, explained well, when researching those two pieces together ...
i am NOT saying that it will have any effect, at all, i'm saying, that the f/s and name change may be done for reasons which you're not grasping... but mgmt DOES believe at issue
L2 shows exit opportunity for folks that are now, not-so "stuck"...
hi GM...a bit confusing, sorry...
you sent an email, and got a response...
please copy your email to mgmt, including mgmt's email (i'd like to email the same person), and their full reply...
that'll help... subject "Demo" >>> demo of what? videos? with or without compression tech? demo of the "last mile" in action?
e.g.; "34"...what email is that?
McHenry (your copied text): what's that email, mgmt's?
thanks, i appreciate the info update and clarifications...
thanks for that info.... as for what is showing now represents...
"it" being current videos showing, not sure it can be said to represent the new, old, or comparison, etc. technology... i would think we'll hear about it...
e.g.; old videos showing, uploaded to show prior quality, vs new ones to come, or if what's up now is new, etc... can't tell offhand...
but i'm awaiting clarification from a pr or podcast or otherwise from mgmt
hi annie...i read a post about somebody asking the company, but don't recall the post with an answer... can you let me know which one has the answer (not being sarcastic at all, seriously looking for it). thanks,
hi star... DUTV going forward...
you noted the low posting volume lately...
dutv was somewhat "dead" before ENTI announced it's involvement, and unless/until something material and verified comes out, i wouldn't expect any "action" in trading or posting...
i think folks will have plenty of "lead-in" time to catch up and jump in (posting) should anything arise via PR or podcast....
think dutv and related enterprises will announce when something's on the close horizon
Reading that part now in the PDF document i printed....
if the f/s was 9/9, record date.... the designation, i think would come soon... gotta check into that process..
also, the name change may also, combined with the f/s, may be intended to address other concerns company had...
expect some clarification from CEO(s) on this matter soon, i would imagine.
CORPORATE NAME CHANGE AND PERIODIC REPORT
Two updates on ENTI: filings with Colorado:
Encounter Development Technologies Inc. (new name of Encounter Technologies, Inc).
Periodic Report (should address issue with "current")
http://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/BusinessEntityHistory.do?&cmd=passgo&pi1=4
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anyone can sign up for e-alerts from Colorado Dept of State on ENTI
here's the alert that just hit my inbox:
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financials available... check there... seems answer is yes...
best to check sources like filings on questions of that nature...
Those are last mile bids IMO. Have been there since before enti involvement and talk of demo. Think not compression tech demo. Guess we shall see.
Do you have the statement from DUTV that ANY currently viewable matarial on the site is the compression tech demo?
prob not..but certainly would be great to have that for everyone to see..
else, you're mistaken.
please provide the email communication where DUTV CEO indicates that the link you provided is actually the compression tech demo..
thanks,
without that, as of now, nobody can reasonably say that the videos and demonstrations on the site aren't what were there weeks and months ago...
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hey cand... you looking at L2 or some tool showing "bid / ask"?
the bid/ask often doesn't mean much before or after trading day/hours...
only matters once opening bell rings...and usually adjusts to be more reflective of expected starting pps right before open...
take care,
okay..i can view those three videos on my computer...
i don't know if those are the demonstration of the compression tech or the "dutv" model in action (bringing the "last mile" to home viewers)...
i imagine we'd hear about the actual compression tech demo before or at time of release..but nice vids in any regard!
"no need for complexity"
interesting....
understanding that there are more facets to a matter than one, simplistic viewpoint, allows those watching, owning, trading ENTI to navigate the waters a bit better, and adopt and/or develop mindsets to handle how things happen...
appreciating that things are complex, IMO, allows for easier, greater understanding of the landscape and not losing it with each turn...
each has their own way, i guess... demonstrated in how one trades/acts with respect to ENTI/PTEL/MMX. appreciating complexity in a system built of more simple sub-matters, is the way to keep comfy and cool headed when dealing in trading and pinks, ENTI/PLTEL/MMX.
Hi newguy2009... on the demo:
can you provide the direct link? (the homepage link you gave has a video on it, but that's been there a while, i believe).
i viewed the site and looked for "new" content, demo, and see some of the same content i had viewed a while back.. i could be missing something of course..
thanks,
greg
there's more complexity to my points than you've noted:
you've missed some key concepts.......
moving off of no bid, shows, demonstrates, it's tradable (one fiction now proven wrong, that it would never trade again, or move off no bid)....
moving off no bid, and actually being flipped, showed it's "alive", and can bring profit... (look at all those 2's for sale, those are flippers in case you didn't know about how some trade, flipping is when somebody buys and then sells quickly, in this instance, trying for doubling their money).
discussion points about "we'll see" and "allow", a long mindset, remain valid and reasonable also... people trading should know that there are different types of "players" all the time, populating a shareholder group
outlining several perspectives (long mindset, investor mindset, short interest, flipping mindset), shows that there are, several perspectives, and that absolutes about this or that are often, more than often, just simplistic and unreasonable, and wrong...
sub...glad we agree that, at the least, that universal, absolute statements, all along the spectrum, about it being dead or about to shoot to the moon, are almost without exception, wrong..for just about any stock and not just ENTI/PTEL.
the ability for some to gain, and others to see the potential for gain (buying in at 1, or even 2), is the point... and it was/is demonstrated...even if only, at this point, by a handful as you characterize...
think of it this way: claims that a company is closed down, doors closed, nothing of value inside.... and then, a few people are seen entering, and coming out of the store satisfied...others, entering the store because they see value in it... that's what happened...
saying that "oh, well, only a few people actually really enjoyed the benefits of the store" is a bit "off" the materiality of the point: what WAS demonstrated was that it's "open for business" where others said, "closed, dead, go away, run away".
like i said... today's action shows that some can/did make money..
and were able to sell...
i'm not saying everyone..the main point was, keeping open mind, patient mindset, helps with allowing time and events like today to unfold..
"we'll see" if you / others get to exit any time soon...
today demonstrated that the universe of 'never gonna happens' were wrong in terms of enti trading again, getting off of no bid..
can't / won't say where goes from here...we've got a while until rollout of next product based on CEO's statements...
but today demonstrated, the absolute statements of "never" "dead" "no uptick, get it?" are, were, wrong... opportunities are there...
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hey sub..actually, it is that simple....
the message is clear: the overwhelming talk of "dead", and "lmao they gonna sell a billion to move off of no bid?" was just plain wrong...simple.
a news item, the completion of the divi, moved all those sells off, most of them, and bid/ask 1/2 achieved.
i even say, i don't expect anything in particular for action going forward until next phases come.. (could go up, could go no bid, we'll see..but potential proven, today)
some did double their money, and that's what this is about....the topic for now....
some doubled their money...and ENTI itself didn't roll out any product, reveal any previews of ROAR or anything else...
so, it's fine to point out people made money... cuz that's the main point... ENTI can trade, did trade, today... against all predictions of death...
the narrative of "doubling their money" has multiple facets... one of which is making double, the others include showing the "never gonna trade" stance, wrong.
like the divi that was never gonna happen, and was questioned "where is the divi? LOL".... the answers to your questions come when they do... and they do come... often not on your timeline..that's why "we'll see" works much better, IMO...
glad some in marketplace enjoying the action today, great to see, really... we'll see how things go over next days, weeks and months... reasonable to support the company i hold stock in, IMO
you've joined a conversation a bit late, and aren't understanding the context:
bramabill is claiming that the CEO publicly lied to the marketplace, to shareholders, to potential shareholders, in order to do what, draw in investment? serious claim, and i am asking if brama's statement-as-fact claim is that the ceo publicly lied .
you can read the posts and get that, but glad to clarify.
bought at 1's, sold at 2's, some doubled their money...geez ... simple.
So, clarity helps...
you've made it clear that you are making what you believe to be a factual statement... that the CEO of this company made a false statement....to the public, to the marketplace...
okay, wasn't quite sure until you clarified.
Hey kid..agreed...
that podcasts are good to hear about corporate actions, updates, ...
as for wanting more... this was a big, big step...and opens up, according to management public statements, other phases/steps/projects that were waiting on this divi to be completed...
i expect a somewhat, moderate development/news/update schedule.... mgmt laid out a pretty extensive timeline, loosely framed, IMO, to let us know that things are moving.... and they're working on things..
but don't expect explosions, thunderous pps movement, etc... steady progress, even when we can't see it is the goal, IMO.
take care, nice to see you on the board!
"more or less"? did he or didn't he?
either he did or didn't... which do you claim?
more or less means that he didn't. or that he did. not real clear...so please clarify.
by the way: flippers are coming back into PTEL, you see that? great to see some action, always happens with corporate action...
no, not saying corporate action/selling, i'm saying flippers in the marketplace come back and show up (on L2, trading of course) when things are moving...
expected, predictable.
your timeline isn't what others have akaO....
...and for those investors who have been "long enough", exit stage left on ENTI... opportunity to exit was there today......
why is it, that everyone who holds enti shares, did not exit today?
guess an adjustment in mindset happened for many fed up investors? "i'm out as soon as bid comes again".... all gone? nah
we'll see how things go, but potential is there, and promised exiting, didn't happen, apparently... nice they have confidence/belief things are going up more..
there are opportunities all along the spectrum...
short term, flipping, and long term, investment...
one step, the PTEL / ENTI one for one divi, is only now being put into place...next phases come... comfy with that.
the "investment" long term mindset sees things differently, but not necessary in conflict with other mindsets...
allowing for those two, and more marketplace mindsets allows for potential and not limiting potential for oneself or others..
so now it's long term considerations when some people, who chose to buy enti, have doubled their money.......
long term perspective is "we'll see", IMO,,,, not "never", nor "ain't gonna happen"...
i just don't agree with you that those who chose to invest in enti and made profit this very day made a wrong choice..
isn't reasonable position, IMO.