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ummm i think you need to re-read the post. I said if they have an NDA they may both be gagged. Which would explain why no PR. They may both have agreed not to release any more prs until the closing, which they announced is April 30, 2010. Never said we wouldnt have a pr til April 30 because we may get one today. jmo
Goldman Sachs is a market maker. Ind. can also be. A market maker actually has shares and THEY set a bid, ask, or both and offers them at the price wee see.
the little guys trades are not what is controlling this right now. It is the MM's. We are 2 days before the closing and NOT one things has changed and not one announcement has been made to affect the price of this stock. This is purely MM's doing there thing. The illusion of volume and the illusion of tanking is done by MM's . jmo
Not sure....but that is why I think they have an NDA. Both partys may have agreed that the public announcement Had to be made and then both could have agreed to a gag order and that would explain not putting out a pr. They may have both decided not to make any further announcement until the closing date, which they announced was set for April 30, 2010.
perhaps some of it. But NITE is a MM....that is a Market Mover/Market Maker. And they are trying very hard to keep control
bid 5@ .0015 ask 3@ .0016
5@ .0014 ask 2@ .0022
the MM known as NITE was just on the top of the bid board and the top of the ask board. It appears that he Sold his shares to himself at the bid. Moved them from left hand to right, again the illusion that the price is going down. Watch your L2 and you will see the games people play
WHAT DELAY? there is NO delay. PR clearly states April 30. Im pretty sure today is the 28th.
could you please tell us what sec filing you are speaking of and where you found this. Thank you. below you will see what you posted. THRR get ready to rumble see sec filling 4/27/10 derivitive right to buy ay 0.15 with one year duration. for buy and holders big money is betting over 0.15 within one year time
actually the maket cap is actually much higher. they basee that figure on the o/s as of dec 09. That was about 5.5 bil. We know that now there are approx 11.6 bil so the mark cap is actually closer to $19 million
Tom Flessner and Roger Rowell are 2 of them and the other 5 appear to be private investors. Here is the link to OTC and the share count is listed.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=31091
the unfair advantage in it would be if they hadnt told anyone about the buyout. They very clearly have announced .01 per issued and 0/s shares. who the buyer is DOES NOT give them an unfair advantage as the announcement was made that the price is .01 per share. So we all have the same advantage and on the same playing field. And the share structure also does not give them an unfair advantage, especially if this company is going private and there will be no share structure for you or I to worry about.
hmmmmm iiiiii doooooont thiiiink sooooooo!
when you ARE the buyer, thats not insider info. And if they both signed a NDA they would both be bound by the terms agreed to in that agreement. My feeling is that both agreed to release that there was a sale of the company pending. I also feel that they are now both gagged as to what else they can say. The transfer agent has not been gagged as to issued and outstanding shares but they have been gagged from releasing any other info.
no bull...if you had listened closely to all that I said you would know that I think the buyer has been buying shares on the open market, but not at .0018. Here is my thoughts. I think the buyer is not just one person. I think that it is a group.(Tom Flessner did say in an interview that they had been talking with this "group" for about a year. I think that people in that group have been accumulating shares for sometime, perhaps as far back as fall. I think that when they were close to their target, they put an offer on the table. I think that their plan was to then keep accumulating shares to make sure that they get the 95% they need. I think THRR and the buyer signed a NDA. I think that both of them agreed that in order for these individuals to keep buying on the open market, legally, they had to disclose that the buyout offer was accepted. We do know that THRR had 7 major shareholder, holding approx 40% of the shares at the end of Dec. 09. They are already major shareholders of record so they could have continued to buy and they even could have flipped some shares for a profit. They would have remained major shareholders as long as they held at least 5% each. I think that if they flipped shares they are now scrambling and actually hoping for the price to go down so they can buy them at a huge discount. We will all know in a few days what is going on. But everyday the volume is very low and the shares are being held very tightly. jmo but there is alot more to this then meets the eye.
yep been like that for several days.
well actually your wrong. To be able to buy the shares on the open market, the HAD to make the announcement. the NDA, if they have one, could have and would have, allowed them to make that announcement so they COULD legally buy on the open market.
it is what is called FLIPPING. I suppose you would now like to tell me that no one is flipping this stock? bottom line is 11.4 billion today didnt budge...nope still being held.
not true. it would be necessary to make the public announcement so that the buyer could buy shares on the open market. They couldnt have bought on open market without announcement. jmo.
well I have not done that as many of the shares bought one day are sold the next. Therefore those are just the same shares over and over again just going into a different set of hands. The other reason is that I have been doing this along time and I know that mm's will sell them and then buy them back immediately and those shares just move from the left hand to the right hand of the same individual. My whole point has been that 97-99% of the shares, each day do NEITHER of those thing. They are not flipped, they are not moved left to right, and they are not being dumped on a newbie. They are being held and held very tightly. There is a reason for that.
and again today, less then 2% of the o/s shares traded. over 98% still being held.
actually a pr that stated that things are moving along as planned and closing on friday, would be just fine. Would be an update that reaffirmed but did not let out any secrets. It is my opinion that both parties signed an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) and they both have been gagged. This is the norm. with any tender and/or mini tender offer.
actually, it is my opinion that we will not see any big volume spurts until the price increases and/or we get a pr. And even then, I feel the buyer already owns most of the shares so dont expect the big surge to be all that big. have to wait and see now wont we.
im as tight lipped about that as THRR.
there is no volume because
1) many peeps like me are holding.
2) the ones that are trading, well many of those are being bought and sold over and over again by the same people.
3) again today we are going to see 98% of the o/s shares held. jmo
ps...i did buy more today.
actually 50 mil added yesterday and were purchased in 10 mil blocks, 5 of them in a row. And it was lickity split. Adds to my theory that of all the shares that many of you calling dilution, is actually the buyer buying them oln the open market as to make sure he has 95% of the shares....cuz really...who do you think owns and is holding 11.4 billion shares each day?? If it were the daytraders, shorters, or flippers, they would have not only bought them, but they would have sold them or dumped em, as you would say, and the price would be at .0001....but guess what....everyday 11.4 bil held. hmmmmm
oh really??? then why are so many of them on the 5 day list. you know, the list that says its been MORE then 5 days since they shorted and have not covered. My goodness, are you trying to say that they dont make money SHORTING? Oh my friend, it is another one of those billion dollar industries. jmo
nobull. i repeat, I do not short. Other names were provided to you today. I do not waste time researching something that I am never going to find of value to myself. However, list are posted all the time. Several pink companys are on buyin nets list and you were supplied names earlier. Sec rules allow MM's to short even in pennys and it is done everyday. i deal in alot of pennys and I even had to put a stop to my firm LOANING out my pennys to shorters. Any of you can put a stop to it by contacting your broker, in writing and stating that they ARE NOT allowed to loan out your stock to a shorter.
beecause i feel that they have been buying on the open market...just like anyone else who has buying.
sorry honey but pennys shorted every day. even sec rules do say that it is not necessarily illegal and MM ARE allowed to do it.
as i said, nothing has changed to cause it to go down, therefore just more games people play. And very low volume
honey....mamma never tells anyone to buy or sell. I have researched THRR more then I have researched any company. I am confident that I have made a good buy....however, if you are not, you should not be in the market. One should never invest any $ that they cant afford to risk. and the markets are a risk. I will restate that I am very confident, but not even I have a crystal ball.
it is my opinion that the buyer already OWNS most of the o/s shares. we see very low volume every day. And the price being down today.....well the fact is that NOTHING has changed to cause it to go down alittle so therefore it is my opinion that this is nothing more then an illusion by those who would like you to think it is going down ie the mm's
illiegal to short?? no actually a legal practice
been doing this along time now. Know exactly how it works. You wont need to explain a thing to me....just to those who didnt know your game.
if you lost that much money, you wouldnt even be here. And then with just a few days til the 30th, you say sell?? Its to bad that you sold and crystallized your lose the last time you sold and lost all that money. Probably should have held onto it.
not sure what you mean. ssgi is at top of .0016
what cover??? You mean the industry reports?? or maybe you mean that industry magazines??
keeping it real??? well friend, in the REAL business world, THRR is a real company, with real product, real staff, real magazines, newpapers, industry reports that call THRR leaders in the industry. That is the real busniness world.
go read some of the previous post. go read tom takes back company. go read up on THRR. Look at the o/s shares that are being held...very tightly. it all makes perfect sense.