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Another Derby vs Hdog showdown...
It's the Wild West boys and there aint enough room in this town for two sherrifs!
*tumbleweed rolls by*
That was it's breath...
I can't pm, but I wanted to say how much more enjoyable it is to trade with guys like you and Hdog et. al. No need to have massive pumping or crowd noise. You guys find great fundamental plays and let the stock do the talking.
It is like a breath of fresh air!
Thanks to you guys
Work is overrated :]
All the more reason to put a mod in place that can focus on EXBX
If a stock jumps 400+ percent and a mod isn't around? What would you expect?
so dog do you think this is the beginning of the curve or are we on it's decent?
Just enjoying the show so far... Who needs daytime television.
I have a cell phone number that I use here in KS, but it is an area code in Minnesota. I never chagned it as everyone knows me by that number...
Haha just thought I'd throw a log on the fire from the sidelines :]
mine are in as well for etrade
Good time to take a starter in this, perhaps...
Possibly the lunch time dip and run for a little bit more?
Interesting run here... The A/S is frightening can a long explain to me S/S besides what is apparent if there is something more?
I love the news and think it could be something worht while. I see it is running as I type... Decisions decisions
Negative here would be my thought to it.
I started a non-profit and was really struggling at first because no one wanted to donate me money. I had the 501c3 status that made me a tax exempt non profit, a great idea, but nobody knew the name nor did they trust the name. I had no track record or history.
I partnered with another group who became my fiscal agent. Their name was bigger and stronger in this area. They accepted the money for me and basically acted as my middle man telling the banks/foundations we support this, we have a great track record, we will own the mishaps if any. Much like a cosigner on a loan.
As the program and my reputation grew, eventually the hand off was made and I began dealing with these groups directly.
THERE IS NO WAY, NO WAY, NO WAY, I could have connected to the people I connected with and launch what I launched without giving up the naming rights initially.
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In conclusion if MMX gave up a chance to brand themselves here in an attempt to brand themselves later, I think it is a great move.
Collaborative effort with Maino, Jux, Gorilla Zoe, ... etc.
"Wait you mean they did that video? Wow man that MMX group is really cool. Look at all the people they have worked with and helped to launch. I want to get in on that too." -- Future Artist
You can only build a foundation once before you start building. How big of a foundation you build determines how high the building can be. I like the ever growing size of the platform we are about to launch from.
I will clarify a little bit more. My assumption was based on I found a stock that I feel is undervalued, enter at that point and wait, happy I got there first.
When the pumpers come in, I play the gap up, retrace and fill game a few times until the ecitement fades. It usually occurs when someone asks the honest question of "why is this so high?" Jump out play the self correction and the swing to the next question, "why is this so low?"
Rinse and repeat. But I keep my long position intact.
Either the company proves it deserves to be that high, in which case you hold for the next cycle to begin or you sell into the waining excitement and wait for it to hit a bottom.
If in that bottom time frame I still believe in my DD, than I would accumulate. If I grow weary than I sell at that bottom area usually at some profit...
If it runs higher congrats to those who stayed in for the run. If it tumbles lower sorry to the ones who didn't get out.
I agree in not listening to a board if:
1. I am jumping in late (usually)
2. Missed the run up
3. Chasing a gap up
4. Specific IHUB posters are claiming too good or too bad of news
5. I truly belive my DD is correct
*** I hope that clarifies when or why I would listen to posters.
I don't necessarily mean IHUB as the sole source. I mean all stock sites. If something is caught in the buzz cloud on 8 or 9 different sites, the odds are it will catch some momentum and run for a little bit. In those cases don't get greedy just ride the wave and take some profit.
Falling in love or out of love when you are "long" in a stock because of a "pumper" or "basher" as they are known here is foolish. If you do than your DD was not good and you deserve what happens. But, that's why in my little sermon the second part where I said "If you choose to make this a living there is a second piece to this puzzle..." Simply put, You can use pumpers or bashers to a huge advantage!!!
Admiral I have got in and out of this stock at great points not because I listen to you, but because other "fesh meat", haha, have been. I think your points are very valid and are rooted in information. But, I still think the risk vs. reward here is worth the play. IMO
I am long with my now free shares of about 500,000 and short on only around 250,000 shares. I have my own entry point and exit points that I am happy with for now. I hope to accumulate and get to a long position of about 2,000,000 shares without putting new money into this. If it happens great if not I will cash out if the house of cards topple, I will walk away with a smaller profit, but profit none-the-less.
I do not blame you or hold you accountable for anything anyone else does, in the end it is their decision. I don't think you are anything other than a poster and with respect, which I think you understand, I don't care anymore than that. I will use you just like a Press Release or any other pertinent information I can use to make a buck. As I will use a very optimistic person who promises me a villa on the moon.
In all seriousness have a good weekend to you and everyone. Hope that clarifies.
"Trust your DD and learn from your mistakes"
King I can't PM you, but I wanted to tell you two things:
First, Be loyal to you. Everyone here no matter how nice or informative they are is looking out for one person, "me". At the end of the day if you lose all your money and I make a lot because I "played" the stock right, I am happy and life goes on for me. Sure I feel bad someone who I don't know lost money and that sucks because I know the feeling, but "oh well, glad it wasn't me."
My point in that is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS do your own DD (due diligence or research). Comb over everything and compare information at one website to another. Look at non-academic sites (IHUB, Wiki, Google, etc.) and Academic sites (SEC, OTCBB, legal documents, etc.) to further get an understanding of what you are investing in and why you like or dislike. If you do not do this and complain when a stock tanks SERVES YOU RIGHT!
Than support your feeling with those facts. At that point it doesn't matter what a pumper or a basher says about what is going on because you have done your DD and feel good about your information.
If you choose to make this a living there is a second piece to this puzzle...
Second, Learn the sentiments of stock chatrooms and what the market is telling you through charts. There is a massive lemming effect in the market. If one does it we all do it. If across the board everyone is screaming in frustration and calling something a scam, resist the urge to prove people wrong and "catch the falling knife" it is stupid not brave to piss into the wind. It is better to be the person who got in near the bottom and out near the top most of the time, than the person who got in at the bottom and out at the top rarely
Charts work two fold they confirm to us what happened and in that regard you can sometimes develope a trend or feeling about a particular stock. When you combine investor sentiment with a chart you can, depending how good you are at, make more money by reading the trend.
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Last thing is this. There are many people who take on the strategy of hold a "core position" and "flip" the rest". For example I hold a core position of 5 million shares in a different stock "long", but I have flipped it with a different position 6 times. Each time I flip it for all it is worth and buy back in based on my interpretation and trend lines of the charts. My core never changes, but I am still responsible for it going down and up because I am still "playing" the stock. That is a mjority of the reason why you here "longs" say they are adding to their "core". When I do it I am flipping it until it becomes free than my core poisition grows.
The goal for me in every stock is to get myself to have my core position be all free based upon the runs.
I hope that helps. But, what you will find is there is no information that will help you as much as experience and learning from said experiences.
*** Haha oh and NEVER EVER EVER MARRY A STOCK! WHEN IT RUNS SELL NEAR THE TOP. WHEN IT CRASHES BUY NEAR THE BOTTOM.
Haha fine no more jokes apparently...
I like the video... Looking forward to this upcoming week.
Sheeze tough crowd tonight :]
Haha and he has a SF Giants hat on!
Will be interesting to see the plan develop to bring the foot traffic over to MMX!
Hey Slaz, I know a lot of us that are long appreciate what you guys as MODs have done.
One suggestion/question. Is it possible to update the IBOX? A lot of that is just outdated or not pertinent anymore. Thoughts?
Didn't get back til late last night from travelling tried to get here at the open. Still real tired, I can't make sense of this PR right now. Could someone dumb it down for why this was a good one...
I really am that tired. My brain just can't hanlde reading that much right now. Did MMX do this? Is it on our page? Is this a prelaunch?
The way it was explained to me about the short numbers is it is how much was traded as a short, meaning it could have been cover volume or short volume.
150 million shares could have been 100 million shorts that were being covered and 50 million shorted today or it could mean 150 million shorted today or 150 million covered. Basically any combination of short and cover is what that total number menas.
I don't know if that is a factual answer or not though?
So for what it is worth, there is my answer.
You know I am long... I am merely saying that, that is a logical way that the sky doesn't fall on everyone if it was to happen.
It is logical and beneficial. While I agree unlikely, I do not think it should be eliminated from conversation.
Besides if we will allow unrealistic comments such as .50 by Christmas I am going to stay with a possible theory of reverse split.
Last note, at any level things are only what people say they are or aren't, until people say differently.
take a 6,000,000,000 dollar float reverse split it after you pay out the dividend of 5% restrict all share except the remaining float and you end up with a mid dollar stock with an absolutely absurd float (low that is), reduce the A/S to like 500,000,000 and you end up with a great looking stock.
A phoenix rising from the ashes!
Here is a more detailed verison:
6,000,000 o/s becomes 100,000,000 on a 60 to 1 reverse split
Reduce the A/S to 500,000,000and restrict 400,000,000 shares leave the 100,000,000 as the current float.
5% of 6,000,000,000 is 300,000,000 making it:
A/S 500,000,000 of which 100,000,000 is reserved for the company board and management + 300,000,000to the dividend + 100,000,000 to the float.
The share price would become $.06 ($.001 * 60 from the split). Now how does that work for us?
I have 5 million shares that would become 250,000 because of the 5% dividend. My shares would then become 83,333 + 250,000 (restricted)
333,333 total at a valuation of $.06 or almost $20,000
That is more than my current situation of 5 million at .001
last three buys were mine at 1.2 million they broke it up and it took out 3 MMs on the 6. We need some type of push and this can bounce back to an even close.
288334
500000
400000
IMO
Thanks.
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Agreed!
A train derailment can simply mean slipped off the tracks, but is salvageable, where as a full train wreck is casualties and irreparable loss.
Sort of like a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square.
Haha I worked for BNSF for a year in college :]
You forget the promise of CE Removal and up to date paperwork... Oh wait they did that?
You forgot the promise of delivering artist to step up to the plate and name drop the site... Oh wait they did that too?
I didn't see you mention anything about them not releasing a 5% dividend... ... They did that too. Wow I guess I can make a list that shows they do deliver.
My issue in how you post is in the tone. You can rail against a company and that is fine, but at some point you also have to recognize that some good and in my opinion (and others) a lot of good has occurred.
I am in no way happy about the delay of both recent delays, but if you go through and read why, you can see this delay actually came as a result of record companies and not ENTI execs. I am not going to crucify something because of its old reputation when it has made several noteworthy attempts to make a change. To not allow for change to me seems inhumane, even in business.
Do I think the O/S will be bigger, probably and yes I want to know an exact accounting of why, but am I willing to ride this wave and see where it goes. YES!
All I am asking for is an acknowledgement of the progressive and positive chagnes that have occurred and the chacne that there could be something in the works other than a scam. If people cannot give that much than it is hard to not feel those opinions have an alternative motive, much like a poster who claims it is all pie in the sky.
Just a thought...
What if the company was driving down the pps on purpose? Looking to buyback shares at a lower price. Just a thought and total speculation.
That is a good point cash... I am chaging my position and I will be naked short selling 6 billion share at the open. I will not bauk at the impending doom that I face.
You should know I also pee into the wind and have no fear! Haha
Weren't you also going to release more information the other day at the open?
I must have missed it?
Haha ... uhhh that's a lot of money :]
oh and do tell, look forward to being crushed!
I was just thinking based upon some of your extrapolations. I pose this what if:
What if on November 14th the company does a forward split of 4:1 the next day the 5% dividend goes into effect. Than on November 15th a reverse split of 1:4 occurs.
My thought is, take my 5 million shares and forward split 4:1 to a total of 20 million, next comes the 5% divy giving me a total of 20 million shares and 1 million restricted shares. If you than reverse 1:4 you bring me back to my original 5 million shares.
ENTI would in essence have given me 750,000 shares as a "bonus", plus the shorts would have had to cover on November 14th at 4x the normal amount because of the forward split and the very next day we would simply revert back to the old share count.
Is this even realistic? If so, thoughts?
As I sit here and think of all of the possibilities I see that they are near endless for what could happened. I am looking forward to the next few weeks. If for no other reason than to satisfy my curiousity.
Can do. Thanks. I feel like a greenie again by the way I goofed, oh well good lesson and time to move on.
GLTY
I'd sell, quit trading and move on with life. The only way you learn down here is by asking questions and making decisions on your own and learning from them. Asking for advice is differnt than asking for sell points.
With that being said... I feel like typically I judge stocks well (now) and when to get in. I totally goofed this one up and I'm wondering if someone could point out where or how I did?
I got in at .0074 for a few 100,000. Just wondering how I misjudged a bottom so badly, any thoughts?
I am even now after a little bit of averaging...
Haha TY! Trying to get to 50 sooner rather than later!
Said nothing about R/S.
How about some person marks :]
Actually now that you mention it... Nothing.
Sorry for the typo's and grammar I was trying to get it all down.
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He really sounded like this is a long term venture and the pps of this stock will be huge, but this is going to be a true long term play.
Here are the cliff notes version of what was discussed... Nothing on filings or share structure.
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2 Broad Objectives
1.) Have the long term assest base -- a massive build up over the next 5 years of what might amount to over 100 patents.
Seeking longterm partnership with major companies EX. Nissan or Mercedes for solar panels on their electric cars...
2.) Creat a substantial revenue stream -- We are not making any money this year because of delays, but I expect by next year.
"Greensmart" stores open across the nation. Hope to have store open before christmas but it is not going to happen 7-8 franchisees excited about opening a store.
Solar Division
Medical Division
Intellectual property - assests of kenergy
THIS GUY HAS INVENTED MORE STUFF THAN I HAVE FORGOTTEN... ...
"Everything I invent now goes into speechswitch."
He explained his reasoning for the cash and notes... He sounds like a protective father who wants to watch HIS child grow up.
Current Debt
"1.5 million dollars in debt from initial takeover. We are not paying debt with cash but with stock I cannot control when they want debt to convert their debt. I cannot do that it is an SEC violation. It's poainful but we are gonne get hrough this. I have eleiminated more than 1/3 of all debt."
"Rather then them buying the old debt they decided to loan me 500,000 at 5% interest. When I PR they questioned the veracity of it. Debt is necessary it is painful but it is not an infinitely downward spiral. Only if you are taking them oeny and burning it."
"Short Term
Greensmart stores - we have a plan to open in high traffic malls. Different from anyhting you have seen. 5 module"
"1 module - solar power products (lines that are in inventory) more than 50 products
2 module - biodegradable products schaffer pens shampoos
3 module - receyceld products
4 module - solar panel installation sign up for an eneryg audit commision for every deal
5 module - work stations w/ computers go to online catalogue able to order over 10,000 additional green products"
"First store would have been out by now but the owner who I signed the binder with went into receivership -- we are negotiating right now with a different mall, it looks like we'll have a locked in lease within the next 2-3 weeks."
"Going to rutgers area to plant a green smart store there."
"Chose Flemington because it is in the wealthbelt, proecology, very green conscious."
"At least once a week Lake Tahoe, Florida, Chicago, Madison, Vermont, Massachuisetes, Queens, North Carolina, Texas, East Asia, Russia, Uzbekistan asking for a franchise. First 5 stores 10,000 dollars to franchise. He wants them up and running soon."
Ken hasn't taken a salary in over 1.5 years.
Solar Research Facility
Have a place where we can tryout new things without spending exhorbent fees for independent research
Sales Goals
Short term - I am not concerned about short term sales
Mid Term - By the end of next year I expect sales over a million dollars. Plant the seed water the plant then you can harvest the fruit.
Long term -- Be the mcdonalds of Green"
"Possibly the highest buy rate of customers who come in. The independent company expects that 1 in 2 people will buy if they enter the store."
Strategic Alliances
Local solar power installers
Dr Alan Martin
Secret weapon - friend of his McDermont enterprises (Dave) running around china who can make product in china for him.
What makes sswc a good investment?
"3 areas that will grow: 1. Technology 2. Medical Tehcnology 3. Alternative Energy"
"The long term potential and the price of the stock make it a great long term play."
Status of some of the Pharma Deals
"Long term deals (he just reiterated the same stuff we know) he grossly underestimated the types of prototypes needed, but it is not going to happen in the next two months."
went on to be licensing for a phrama comppany had a private practice. Officership for differnt clients, decided to break out on his own:
"speech swith is my baby! I am going to put all of my hatched and unhatched eggs in one basket."
"I was frustrated with working with other poeple watching others succeed and then not keep their promises."
they are talknig about solar energy now...
EDIT --- It is actually really interesting! I don't know if I understand it all haha, but it is really really interesting to hear how he uses the solar eneregy
He has over 200 patent applications out there.
"kenergy as a private company was offered 1.8 million for a 30% stake I took all assests and put into this company speech switch. In 5-8 years I really believe it will be millions of dollars worth of value."
going through his experiences now... At 29 sat on exxon mobile strategic planning for emergin companies
No L2 where I am at how many more are sitting on the 5?
Thanks, I know how annoying it is when people ask.
Anyone else have their asks being filled at .00045? I just put a test out at .0005 it sat for a while and filled as .00045. Anyone else have that?