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When CLYW was awarded the 923 patent the stock climbed to $6.05 and that was without any revenue. There is no limit to what this stock value could do once we win the case against Tmob. Through all of the research by Tmob they have not been able to find a loop hole in the 923 patent that would allow them to have this case dismissed. This is the basis for what is to come with future suits against other companies infringing on the patent. The stock as it stands should be no less than $.50 per share today(based on the value of the Patent).JMHO The price we are seeing now is being created by the BOD pursuing Drago and not having the funds to follow through. That scares a lot of shareholders and potential investors. Not sharing news with the public and the news that is made public is given through the courts, is not the way to properly run a company. If the company needs to raise funds to follow through with the federal case then that needs to be made public and give us a chance to help ensure our investment is protected. We do not need to find out through the courts that our attorney has quit the state case due to lack of payment. It is the 923 patent that I made my investment in, not the BOD. Hopefully Storm will stay on and help carry us through this Tmob case then the Patent will do the rest. To answer your question....there is no limit where we can go with this 923 Patent but we definately should not be trading below $.50 today.JMHO
If they plan on having an attorney in place by tomorrow, then they are out of time. An attorney cannot be prepared eonough in three days to step in and win. SEC rules.....the BOD must make public within four days of any significant change in the company (Hiring an attorney is significant) so since we have not heard that an attorney has been hired in the last four days that either means we do not have one or the Williams and Turini are in violation "again" with the SEC. Let me stress again how important it is that we find new leadership after Dec 2010. Turini and William are chasing their own tail and trying to settle a personal grudge with CLYW money. Let's take a look at the expenses that Turini has created (airline tickets, meals, etc.) compared to how much money he has brought into the company. It may take a calculator to figure the expenses but I can tell you what the income is....$0. That is correct...he has not made the company one penny. I am sure it will piss a lot of people off when they look at the reports.
You ask why I think they would work together? Let's see, Drago has the potential to control the patent of a company that he owns 23,000,000 shares. You still don't know why he wants a win against Tmob?
This is not a bad thing (to have it dismissed). If CLYW will focus on the federal case with Tmob and get a win under our belt...which should have been the main focus to begin with....then they will have funds available to pursue future court cases. Dave, give it a rest. We need to work together with Daic to move this company forward. Hopefully we will start to see an up tick starting Monday the 19th.
Tomorrow July 9, 2010. Must comply with P.R. 4-1....Ha what a joke. The BOD has not informed us of anything that has happen thus far, so what makes anyone think they will keep us informed about the outcome of tomorrow! I am tired of the BOD, Turini and anyone else who holds a title in this company thinking they can continue doing what they want without any consequences to their actions. Turini has brought nothing to this company nor has he benefitted this company in any way. If you do not agree then please give me examples with verification....I will continue to inform everyone about Turini until he is gone. Dave, you need to ask for an extension (anytime after Dec. 9, 2010)in the state case. Lets focus on what is important now.....getting a settlement with Tmob so this company can get a little revenue and move forward...with or without you. Preferably without you. First order of business when Tmob loses and CLYW receives funds from the settlement....replace Turini and Dave Williams then hire Storm as our corporate attorney for future infringement cases. This is an insult that the stock trade at .016. I have read post about people not wanting this to be a pump and dump....Ha...so you think it is better to just sit at .016 to .02. Wow that helps everyone right? What a joke. Screw that crap, I say put out information about each court date as they pass so this stock gets moving...
Is the BOD doing anything to raise money?
What was the outcome of the previous deadline for Tmob? Did they comlpy with the court date in June? What information did CLYW gain from it? Does it look like we will win against Tmob? Does it look like we will win the state case? Do we have an attorney? It would be great if the BOD would keep us updated on what is going on with both cases. I understand they cannot give specific information but they could at least keep us informed a little better.
I have looked and have not been able to find where Turini has passed the bar. I guess he can always fall back on being a tennis coach....even a monkey can do that.
Turini does not have what it takes to represent CLYW. With everything that has been going on, funny how you never hear from the timid mouse in the corner (Turini). As far as Turini.....hope he is not getting paid... I hope they(CLYW/Drago) can come to some kind of agreement so we can move forward on the Tmob case.
I agree and while we are at it, get rid of Turini as well. What a waist of space this guy is. These guys have not done anything to move CLYW to the next stage of the game. Sure they have gotten great legal counsel but unfortunately they have failed at paying them. If you do not have the money to pay them for the federal case why in the H-LL would you start another in a state case until you have the funds to support it? Apparently he must not be very successful in his construction business either........CLYW and Drago need to come to an agreement ASAP so we can get past the state case and concetrate on the federal case. This could be a win-win for both sides if we work together. Not sure if anyone knows the financial status of Drago but he is worth more than probably any shareholder on CLYW, and remember He who has the most money always wins.......... NOT MO JUST THE TRUTH!!!!!
Do you think the court will rule on the change of venue prior to the 15th? If the change of venue is granted then all court dates will change so there would be no need for Tmob to comply with PR 3-3 and PR 3-4. I do not think the judge will grant the change of venue but you never know.
This is what I have been saying all along. There was no reason other than an inflated ego problem from the GTW (Great Toothless Wonder) to start a suit against Daic until after the Tmob case was settled. At the very least he should have made sure he had the money to see the state court case through....What an i---t. It is the wreckless use of power that put us in this situation to begin with. I also have been asking how Storm was being paid and everyone kept saying he was on contingency......now we all know different. Let me be the first to say "I WAS RIGHT". Another thing that comes to my attention about GTW.....he is buying shares the same day news (8k) comes out......that is considered insider trading by the SEC. Also, he was aware of Storm withdrawing from the case a month ago....by SEC regulations he has 4 days to make a public announcement from the date of any significant news....and He the GTW (Dave Williams) did not. Maybe after the Tmob case we need to consider his replacement. Now if anyone can get a message to DAVE.....Leave things alone until after the Tmob case..................
I did not see where Daic released their attorney, only Storm asking to be released from CLYW state case.
Where did you find this information?
If there is any news rest assure you will not hear it from our inept BOD.
Apparently the GTW does not feel it is necessary to keep the shareholders informed.
Unfortunately he is over 30.....but I would still like to see him have his sack removed.
The next step is to get a denial in the change of venue request from TMob. Once we get past that then the price should start to increase. IMO
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He is not on contingency.
This is not a true statement:
Posted by: Cougar6 Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:55:41 PM
In reply to: Billcoln who wrote msg# 34968 Post # of 34972
The patent litigation was on contingency.
You say you do not want to make this a "pump-and-dump" stock....I agree however, if you read a previous post of mine you will see that CLYW is well below the actual value it should be holding. It is for this reason I have to say to the BOD..... "PUT OUT NEWS". And please don't waist my time asking what news!!!! You can refer to any post by Final4......
Posted by: Deer Slayer 9791 Date: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:54:22 PM
In reply to: StockCroupier who wrote msg# 34039 Post # of 34948
By my calculations....There are approximately 190 million outstanding shares and if you take that with the estimated (my estimate)$100+ million patent value and do a little math, it should be trading at a minimum of $.53 per share.
I have asked this question numerous times with no answer. The prior attorneys were on contingency however, Storm is not. This is something that the BOD needs to answer. How are they paying for Storms fees? If they have raised any type of monies to pay for Storm then that should be made public. If DW (aka GTW) is paying out of his own pocket (which I doubt)and he intends on getting paid back or reimbursed in an alternate manner (by CLYW)then that needs to be announced as well. Although the BOD seems to be headed in the right direction, they are continuing to fail at keeping the shareholders informed. I continue to read about how DW thinks it best to keep any news out of the PR so the price will remain low for future purchases. Please tell me how the stock fluxuating from .02 to .50 is a bad thing for shareholders and maitaining a price of .02 t0 .025 is a good thing. IMO any news needs to be announced whether they (the BOD) feels it is important or not. They are merely employees for the company that I am a shareholder in.
T-MOB needs to get the check book ready. If they do not get the change of venue (which there is no substantial reason) then they are out of options on how to prolong the case and it would be in their best interest to make a deal prior to the Discovery date. Even if the stock value were to fall back to .02 nothing has changed. CLYW will be the victor in this case without a doubt. IMO
A value has not been established in the case. It is not in CLYW best interest to place a value on TMO unlawful use of the 923 patent until the research is completed. This is the reason for the Discovery hearing coming in October. IMO it would be in the best interest of TMO to settle out of court prior to CLYW taking a look at TMO customer information. This would give CLYW the upper hand with having a detailed record of how many customers are using the technology and the percent CLYW would be entitled to receive for past damages and future revenue( which could well exceed the $500 mil). IMO I do not think TMO will wait to start negotiations with CLYW. I do not remember who posted the idea that TMO is running out of options to drag their feet, but I agree.
Turrini is not working on any deals. The only two people that are a benefit to the company right now are GTW and Storm. Why would any company sign up with CLYW prior to a judgement on the patent when they can continue using it for free?
I hope TMO has someone looking at our post (they would be stupid not to) I agree with your opinion...they are running out of options.
Outstanding. Thanks for the post final4. If you read between the lines this post said a lot. The change of venue has them nervous about the Texas judge not letting them get away with using CLYW patent without paying. Once the judge rules against the change of venue....TMO needs to get out the check book. The extension of the court dates are not unexpected for any of those that have been involved with CLYW for any length of time. For those that have chosen to buy and sell so quickly they will soon regret that decision. It is in our best interest for CLYW to make it through the Markman hearing and not take a non validated, low offer from TMO in the next couple of months. Why take an offer knowing the possibility of leaving money on the table? TMO is obvious running out of options and grasping at anything to keep them out of the courts with CLYW. Storm represents more than just the attornies name....it represents what TMO is in the middle of with CLYW and the forecast does not look good for TMO. This is my opinion...please do your own research.
This will tell who is infringing on the patent.
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I have to stop and say thanks to Richard Pattin for paying for the satellite patents out of his own pocket. I am not asking for any smart remarks about where the money came from or what he has done to the shareholders. Thanks Richard.
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Attention Dave Williams (GTW)!!!
Pay the $400.00 dollars and put the news out on the business wire instead of just putting out an 8K. You should have put out the news about the new attorney P. Storm, The TRO for the blocked patent auction and now the agreement between CLYW and DD. If you want the stock value to continue to increase then the general public needs to see it on the business wire. Some of the public do not know where to go to find the 8K news. While I appreciate the results of the latest news, you need to complete the circle with helping to ensure the general public is aware of what CLYW has accomplished.
I want to post this again since someone continues to have it removed.
Posted by: Deer Slayer 9791 Date: Friday, January 22, 2010 8:30:01 PM
In reply to: Cougar6 who wrote msg# 34305 Post # of 34441
Probably one of the better post I have read. You could not be more true when it comes to the time and effort that is being wasted between DW and DD. IMO the witch hunt should end, both parties come to an agreement to go after T-Mobile and move this company forward. It would be a win-win for everyone....the company makes money, the stock value increases, and we move on to the next company that is infringing on "The Patent".
T-Mobile will not win this case if we stick together and move forward. They have tried desperately to find loop holes in the patent that would be viable enough to have this case thrown out and they have found nothing. They are waiting in the wings waiting and hoping this company falls apart from within. If anyone has contact/relationship with DD or DW or both preferably, it would benefit "everyone" to have this discussion with them.
IMO
DD stops the auction on the patents, STOCK VALUE GOES UP!
CLYW and DD come to agreement to move forward,STOCK VALUE GOES UP!
T-Mobile loses lawsuit to CLYW and ordered to pay fees of previous/future infringement usage, STOCK VALUE GOES THROUGH THE ROOF!!!
CLYW pursues licensing agreements from other companies infringing on its pantent and the STOCK VALUE GOES UP AND CLYW NEVER LOOKS BACK!!!!
This is only my opinion, please do your own research.
I admit that an agreement would definately help with the price of the stock however, if you look at a previous post of mine we should be well above the price we are at:
Posted by: Deer Slayer 9791 Date: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:54:22 PM
In reply to: StockCroupier who wrote msg# 34039 Post # of 34431
By my calculations....There are approximately 190 million outstanding shares and if you take that with the estimated (my estimate)$100+ million patent value and do a little math, it should be trading at a minimum of $.53 per share.
NOTE TO DD.........I am coming to Texas on the weekend of March 20th. If I lose my investment due to your lack of intelligence and your gross selfish greedy acts....You can bet your bottom dollar I will be coming to give you a visit.......I do not know if anyone has contact with DD but feel free to forward this to him.
I know. His post was on Dec. 16th which by my calculations is 8 days prior to the public knowing. Let's review his purchases and see if any shares were bought around that time.
No. I made an assumption, but he did know the BOD was going to apply for a TRO and that makes him privy to information that he nor his wife can purchase shares on.
So you knew that the BOD were going to get a TRO prior to the public and shareholders knowing. Did you get that informaition from your wife (who is on the BOD)? That is information that you should not be privy to. Did you or your wife purchase shares based on that news? Yeah, that would be considered insider trading. Let's see how long this post last before it gets deleted. Don't worry I have already copied and pasted your message to an email just in case.
There see how easy:
Posted by: droy24 Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:17:32 AM
In reply to: sirhaggus who wrote msg# 34064 Post # of 34335
"Well we have about a month before the auction of the full patent rights for our company" That will not happen. I'm sure that the BOD has its reason why they did not make a statement yet, but like you said i trust in what they are doing and i'm sure that they will say something soon.
I see another one of my post was deleted.....must have hit a nerve. Was it you insideout? Getting a little hot for you? Don't worry you can say what you want (I am an adult living on my own, sorry I forgot you do not live on your own) and I will not have your post deleted...
You continue to tell me about questions that were not answered and that is why RP was resigned from his BOD position by DW aka GTW however, I cannot find anything that tells me such reasoning. How do you have information that others are not privy to?
Thump, Thump, Insideout..........