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owd.. how about this one..." while some of our oems are scheduled to bring branded versions of the kino player to market this year" Atul put his foot in his mouth several times since taking over Falks job.... It must be a pre requisite at edig to be the boss.
chiselweed.. I believe that TGE and edig have jointly produced the Fred Falk talking bobble head doll..When its head shakes it says.." we expect new business ".. I bought one and consider it to be my prized possession. There is a special collectors edition for all the thousands of shareholders that he has left holding the bag.
Cass..I just slapped my knee sooo hard from laughing, I cannot stand up.... Have you been reading all those fools on agora.. They brand worried and disgusted investors as bashers. Lawyer Longwinded is in need of a little humiliation..
HH
owd3.. you won't get an arguement from me on that bruther...
london..me too..she is ok in my book..
FF..will do.. Having severe DSL problems at this time..HH
Cass..I did ask him...IT ( the loan) was extended..My conversations with him ..get me nowhere..He knows that I know that he speaks with forked tongue..
HH
FF...you are killing me..LOLOLOLOL. As far as Fusion goes... You are probably right.. edig designed a prototype for them.. as did probably others. With edigs past history of closing deals..I would notput money on it.. Just look at TGE..even with small profit margins.. they managed to have an assortment of music players for sale without edig tech.
HH
owd3...Falks stepping down was a move to placate shareholders who demanded his head on a platter.. Freddy boy is still probably calling the shots..I believe that his father is an original Norris cohort..If true..it just reeks of nepotism. I had the pleasure of talking to Atul last fall..he is a nice guy..can't understand a thing he says..LOL
owd3...you know me...I am not edig's biggest fan...but...the Digiplayer is actually a really cool device.. I got to play with one last fall. The picture really is awesome. Ryan Air in retrospect... was not a good use of the DP. I believe that 80% of their flights are under 2 hours. What I am getting at...is this is the first instance of a good product that was not received well..and was not the fault of edig's sales dept for its failure. Falk could not have even got as far a Boyer did by a longshot..
HH
Fred..how ya doin...Another great day for all edig shareholders.Accumlation..double snort.. When I talked to Putnam last month..He had the audacity to tell me that everything at edig was going well except for the PPS. I then begged to differ with him and asked him about new products for sale, continued massive dilution, and at least break even revenues... His reply was they are working on it..after an uncomfortable delay... Edigs tactics just will not cut it any more to shareholders..hence ..if there is nothing good to say...don't say nuttin... After the Fusion PR failed to materialize...and TGE failed also...I think that Robert's, Fred's, and now Atul's doctors told them that it would be harder and harder to remove their feet from their mouths for them without endangering their health.
HH
FF.. The revs will probably not arrive at the numbers that Atul mentioned. Those revenues will be all IFE. IFE will be IFE..strictly sold by Wencor..If Wencor sells a bunch of Digiplayers...edig will make money, Edig is out of the sales loop concerning IFE... BUT...what really matters now is what that lieing, bumbling , stuttering inept marketing man Falk has accomplished in all of 2004... Not a hell of a lot... The other products and licensing deals that edig management has fortold of over the last few years have not materialized.
Shareholders need to let management know that their performance is not acceptable,.
HH
JD..that is where I am comming from... They have been selling for a few weeks. The stock will be worthless..There are now new laws that take away the corporate shield to those that selfishly took from their shareholders.
RR..exactly..How bout Sony...years ago, They were going to license Sony's ATRAC codec on a player that was never produced. Only APS, B&O, Softeq are ligitimate customers. All shareholders should demand a bit more truth in that area.It may help some unsuspecting potential investor trying to do some DD. not get duped like they did. Does anyone here know if investors are entitled to see the minutes of the board meetings? I wonder if they even have them. They certainly are not doing their job.
HH
Mac...I beg to differ... What have we done with.. HP..nothing in two years, Hitachi..nothing..Intel..nothing..Lucent..voice nav is dead..Microsoft..nothing..Musical... Nothing in years..Portal Player..absolutly nothing..Samsung..nothing..San Disk..nothing..Sanyo..nothing in ten years..Sony...nothing..TGE..nothing..Toshiba..nothing..The edig partners list is a sham..period
FF...Edig management must believe that the majority of their shareholders are morons.. They would have to be to believe a crook like Falk year after year. NOW Atul has backpedaled on almost all of his 2004 statements. How many of those companys listed on edig's website do you really believe edig is doing business with. It is up to all shareholders to voice their disgust at the pathetic way the company is run. I personally know of a group of major shareholders that are on the edge of class action. They just want their money back... but their patience is being sorely tested. The silence of the company is no different than that of the last six months of Colliers tenure when no news was released...then they released the news that they did absolutely zero business during that time. The actions of edig management have been insulting to the common shareholder and they should be held accountable.
HH
FF...I know... where is that news???? Where can it be??.. Where are the two convergence players... where is the large company that was going to licence the micro os???? Where is the large CE company that was showing the video player at the CES???? Where are the DAP players that were mentioned last year???? Where are the "expected" reorders for the Softeq headset? Hell...where is the headset on edig website??Where is the company that was "expected" to release a video player late last year ???(according to Atul's statement in a PR).. We have not had another airline announce the purchase of Digeplayers in several months. I just read on the Agora board that one poster is now changing their time frame for edig to rock in 2007... Absurd statement...If edig does not do anything of substance soon.. They will not be around in 2007. How are they gonna pay their bills in two years. No more shares to issue.. And if they do issue more.. The price will drop to a nickle. Four million shares will keep them in business for a month.
HH
FF..something like that...I'll tell ya what...I sure get sick and tired of myself perpetually "Dissing" edig.. I sure would love to be proven wrong at least once ... But...day after day...week after week....month after month...year after year...The management of edig has consistantly bull$hitted shareholders into thinking that great things are gonna happen. For the past year..Putnam has always talked to me about our OEMs/ODMs...thats right...in plural...And I ain't seen one single solitaty one...
HH
Cass..if it was not true...I would be laughing a lot harder...Trying to defend edig management for their past is akin to trying to take on a M1A main battle tank with a BB gun...LOL
HH
owd3... very true... edig management and their "FRIENDLY INVESTORS" have had a multi year history of leaving common shareholders perpetually holding the bag. Look at the total absence of news in all of 2004. According to RP... They "have been burned" so many times by releasing news that they are not talking about it till it is a done deal. And with the current sales and marketing team's long track record of non performance...it is highly unlikely that edig will come through with any really good deals that will support a higher PPS for any length of time. So you are correct... these "friendly investors" will sell on any news... Oh yeah...RP was wrong about edig getting burned with the Prs that never came to fruition... it was the shareholders that were burned..Plain and simple..I believe they stopped their release of fluff only through legal threats..
HRH..Now that I can believe..It was absurd to think that there was massive subtile accumlation going on with no increase in the PPS. The word always gets out... Now that that has most likely been cleared up... We can get back to the problems at hand...Such as no new edig products released in over a year... No more shares for management to print to pay their worthless salaries..and a couple million bucks owed to friendly investors at loanshark interest rates.
HH
I couldn't tell her that my interest was that I am a skeptical edig shareholder..
HH
I sent an e- mail to wencor this morning.. I asked about the expected timeline for their embedded Digeplayer.. My response..
Mark,
Thanks for your interest. We are pursuing that right now with an
airline
and should have more information in a Press Release as we move forward.
Tell me what kind of interest you represent.
Lorraine Dieterle
IFE Inside Sales Manager
LGJ...I am afraid that it is too late...From the press release dated 7/1/04...A quote from Atul.."The company also announced that it is experiencing increasing demand for customized solutions of its proprietary DAP. We do not expect the delays will affect sales forcasts provided to us by OEM/ODMs... Another quote from Atul from the PR dated 8/12/04.. " While some of our customers are scheduled to bring branded versions of our DAP and Kino platforms to market this year." And when I visited with RP and Atul last August, I looked them both in the eye and asked them if edig was actually going to have products on store shelves this year... The answer was..."absolutely". Same old same old... Different person... different accent...same line of $hit.
HH
HRH..I would love to believe that something good is happening...But...to me the wording of that last PR was no different than the crap that edig management has been spewing over the last four years. I just want to be proven wrong ..And year after year, my worst fears of my investment in edig have beem validated. Shareholders have been left holding the bag for edig and their friendly investors for far too long.
HH
FF...Thats it in a nutshell.. World standard to private meetings..Like I said before..edig did not specifically mention that they will be announcing anything at the show...So...I really did not "expect" anything.. If anything.. the CES shows that all CE mfgrs. seem to be creating myriads of new products without edig inside... Have you seen the folks on agora desperately trying to connect the dots on anything that they can??? Instead ..they should be collectively channeling their efforts to effect serious changes in the edig sales and marketing dept.. Cause... this is their last shot.... THERE ARE NO MORE SHARES TO PRINT... What happens after the dough runs out this time???
Cass.. so sad but true... Falk should be in jail NOW... How many more years will the agora fools put up with his ineptness..I truly disdain him...But on the other hand...He does not give a f$$$ about shareholders. He will stay on till the gravy runs out... That is not very long... There are NO MORE STOCK SHARES TO PRINT.. It's wierd..after the show is over with edig...fools like him seem to always find another cow to milk. It ain't fair..
HH
acrazjo...never worked for edig...But...in my line of work..as in most...IF YOU CANNOT GET THE JOB DONE..YOU ARE REPLACED... Not rewarded with year end cash bonuses or cheap shares... People have to take two steps back...take off their rose colored glasses and ask themselves... where are the results.. Sure Bill Boyer sold the Digeplayer to the airlines...What has Falk and Fergusen sold over the last few years.... This is JUST business and investing.. Not a friendship club....
HH
FF..It is pretty sickening...The last five CES were very succussful..so says Falk...That is why there has not been any new product released in all of 2004.....2005 looks to be getting off to agreat start also..Although....Falk and Fergusen HAVE GOT TO GO!!!! The latest PR did not specifically mention that news will be released...This is the time and place to do it...
HH
HRH... Thank god for Boyer and Wencor... But...you gotta ask yourseLf...WHAT HAS FALK DONE FOR THE COMPANY OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.. PRS THAT HAVE NOT COME TO FRUITION
Cass..per your private mail...you bet I will..
Mark
FF...That is exactly the way I feel...EDIG has an extremely long track record of their CES PRs not amounting to squat..and management backpedaling in subsequent PRs why the earlier PRs never come to fruition. If Falk ever ever closes a decent deal...I just might not survive the shock..
HH
CW..you got that right.. the dung spewed from FF/RP over the last few years was absurd....The good feeling on the Agora board will soon fade away when the news of Falks pathetic sales come to light...His record speaks for itself... I hope to be proven wrong..His track record is too predictable to discount.
HH
FF..I aggree with you..."The friendly investors" who purchase these huge amounts of shares are privy to information that we do not have access to. I have a feeling that some sort of news is in the works (But with Falk closing the deals..It probably will not be that great).. And when that news happens... The friendly investors will begin their massive dump... They will be totally content for a twenty or thirty percent return while the long term investors will once again be left holding the bag..waiting for a totally inept sales team to close the big one.
HH
Cass... thanks... What wonderfull news..Who needs products and licensing deals when all you gotta do is print more stock.. granted...they got no more to print...who cares.. EVERY single shareholder needs to call edig and demand that Falk and Atul get extra large year end cash bonuses for another year of absolutely not one single solitaty new edig device in the whole of 2004..and one of the largest dilution years in the companys history. Don't ya just love those guys. Honesty ..Integrity... hard work pays off...just not for the common shareholders
From Sheppard group
Jetstar Asia handhelds: we jumped the gun
December 29, 2004 – IT seems that reports of an APS digEplayer win in the competition to supply new Singapore-based low-cost carrier Jetstar Asia with handheld IFE were a trifle premature (Inflight Online, December 20).
Impeccable industry sources indicate that all three potential suppliers – IMS Consultants (with PEA) and General Dynamics (YES!), as well as APS – are still in the running, with a decision due in February.
The clarification also reveals that the selection process is in fact being driven by Australian-based Jetstar, sister company of Jetstar Asia, member of the Qantas Group and nose-to-nose rival to Virgin Blue. Jetstar’s use of handheld IFE has been approved at high level, and other Qantas-related companies such as Jetstar Asia and Australian Airlines are being encouraged to look at the technology.
A Jetstar request for proposals was to have been issued to all three suppliers by the end of this month, with responses due in the second half of January. The airline expects to conclude negotiations with the preferred supplier in February before proceeding to an in-service trial.
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WRONG MR. SABRE... In an e-mail I received from RP a few hours ago... RP told me that they have until Dec. 30 to deal with the loansharks... That is probably what will be addressed in the promised news before the end of the year. I seriously doubt that they will announce any new contracts or for that matter...any news that shareholders will smile about. If you doubt me... call for yourself... These kind of things... they cannot lie about..
HH
FF...right about the unexpected news... .. With that worthless sales team of Falk and Fergusen... Your prediction just might come to pass... I sure hope that edig management remembers to give Mr. Falk another richly deserved year end bonus for another year of multi million dollar losses and the absolute failure to close and announce any new business in ALL OF 2004
berge..I saw that.. I asked RP if DP was still using edig.. The answer was a "NO".. But you are correct...DP is not dead...just dead for edig..
HH