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Oldguy, I requested samples and forgot to add my phone number. April immediately e-mailed me requesting the phone number because it's needed for shipping purposes.
I sent the number to her and haven't heard anything since. I read here that we can expect up to a 3 week delay in shipping so I'm patiently waiting. If I don't see anything in 3 weeks I wll e-mail her again.
I read a post recently that with TDA you can send a letter to them requesting that they not make your shares available for shorting. I can't remember which board it's posted on but if true it would save the cost of getting certs. Has anyone else seen or heard of this?
Don't forget Tasefully Simple as one of the good ones. My daughter turned me on to them and I spend a lot of cash buying their products.
Rick talks the talk but are these people really on line that he claims to have with him? This is where my doubts come in. Man I sure hope I'm wrong about this!
Edited:
If this company exists and if they ever put out a product, do not expect to see it in any retail establishment. What we can get out of the web site is that this will be MLM=Multi level marketing.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070521180557AAKdMdx
The part about how the scams work is probably what applies here!
Even worse, these foundes club people should be doing all they can to sign up people and we can't even get ahold of them.
Exactly!!! Nothing has changed. I'm glad Beboo started out by saying he won't panic. No need to panic. If you're in this for an investment there's no need to even look at the day to day price changes. If you daytrade then you better stay on top of every transaciton.
I personally don't recomend stocks to friends, too much can go wrong then I look like the culprit.
I totally disagree with you concerning what should and should not be posted on this forum.
I came here looking for facts about the company-facts that are positive and negative toward this company. That is the only way to make decisions.
I respect your opinions and love your optimism but please don't think that negative comments are bashing.
When people discover facts others may not know they should post them. As readers we should weigh these facts and act according to our best judgement.
Thank you Thurston. The Yahoo post also points out how important the truth is. I did not come to the conclusion that the "deal" was with a major car manufacturer, but that's just me.
Gonzilee, I would like you and others here that are so hell-bent on p/r's and contract details to read this post from another position I'm in. I'm not promoting that stock, I have 3x's as much invested here as I do there.
I'm showing this because this CEO explains why phoney "news" is not important and in fact detrimental to long range goals and tells why details of contracts should not and will not be made public.
It is a good read and he uses the English Language better than I certainly can.
Please read this because the theory behind it applies here!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=28170841
Do Walmart and Home Depot carry lines with their name on them?
I'm thinking more in the line of Sears or Sherwin Williams or others like this.
The more the merrier
Soapy, here's what I'm thinking, see if you agree. The day-traders reading this board who saw the memo to you, will probably bail but the majority of the stock holders of this company will only be encouraged to buy more.
Man is that memo great or what? I am suprised that other CEO's leak out info about potential deals, and am not suprised that stock owners start calling and mailing.
He takes the right and the only approach to these dealings. Anybody that reads past headlines should see this also.
I applaud out CEO for telling us there may be a delay and why. I would not want it any other way.
I'm not happy that the crash-man is going to see his .025 before I see my .035. Could happen any minute now.
You guys are doing a great job, it's this company that just depresses us so much.
Much better to vent here rather than take it out on the family and the pets.
I felt bad, not for myself but for others when I read what they paid for this. This made me lower my limit on what I'll spend for a penny stock.
Like I said I'm in for $900 and no sense in selling for $100 so I have no choice other than to hang in there.
It was on Tues. 3/11 that she communicated with me, time flies when you're having fun.
The 2 questions still remain, is there another woman by this name (A realtor named Land) and has anybody contacted any of the others?
Sure wish I had looked a little deeper before spending my money on this.
It begs to be asked. Why did the SEC let the stock continue trading? Did they not find the wrong doing they were looking for? I agree with others that the company should come out with some info. Somehow I avoided buying this but it looks like a day traders dream if you have the heart for it.
Yes, she sent an e-mail saying she would call or write and she called that afternoon. This was a few weeks ago and it may be that she's heard from more than one person about this and is not taking the time to respond. I sent her a link to the Healty coffee web site in case she wanted to look into it.
I did notice the pics were different. Could there be another lady by that name in that same town? Like I said, I really don't want to hear more bad news. Losing my money is bad enough.
keep in mind I'm long 1,000,000 shares and want nothing more than for this to go up.
I looked at the testimonial from Jody Land in Hesperia Ca. who says she's a realtor. My thinking is I should be able to google that. I did and found a realtor in Hesperia named Jody Land with her own web page. Cool, I thought.
I e-mailed her asking if she is involved with this company. She called me but I missed the call however, she left a voice mail. She said she is not involved with them and never heard of them. I e-mailed her back thanking her for taking the time to respond to me.
Not the news I wanted to hear. I did not want any more bad news so I stuck my head in the sand and did not try to contact any others.
That's why I'm asking to see if anyone else had any luck contacting these people.
Like the others have said I like the info you give us here, something I forgot could happen, but I also believe if there is a delay of this sort we will be informed of it.
Edited: Let me ask again.
Has anyone tried to contact any members of this USA Founders Club?
I have, and did not like the rusults of my efforts. If someone else can get in touch with one of them to verify they acutally belong to the founders club I would still have some hope.
My fear is that these are phony testimonials and the CEO and his gang have left the country.
At a mimumum the web site should be working so we could access links they have on it.
More mumbo jumbo. "took more time than management expected"
Again, this management has no clue!!
Don't stop posting. Your optimism is the only thing keeping me from crying over this piece of junk scam.
Strange how that works. They filled another order for.029 before they filled the rest of yours. How does someone sneak in ahead of you?
It's the logic in calculating profits that I question, not your choice of the other company. I'm long there also.
What is the obsession in your posts about "guaranteed?"
When GM makes a car they get money when the car sells.
When you sign a contract with a realtor to sell your house, you get paid when the house sells.
How is this company any different? You use future sales in calculating the profits your casket company will make but you can't use the same logic here??
If you invested like most here have, you have bet that it is a potential moneymaking company and hopeful we will be rewarded.
Ho boy, doesn't look good for the home team. Even if he is still in this country and stays in business we don't have a chance with all these shares trading at .0001. It won't take long for them to cash-in IMO.
And according to my wife, the cleaning expert in this house, oxyclean doesn't do that good of a job.
Please ask the white kitten what she thinks about WNBD. She has the right attitude!
Sometimes no news is good news and I would rather they remain silent and have people think they don't have a clue as to what they are doing, than to speak up and remove all doubt!
Open .03
You forgot this
Everything we do takes longer than we expected and is harder than we thought.
And
Everything that happens is out of our control.
I was informed today that Ohio has a law which required schools to use cleaning solutions that are environmentally friendly. I'm looking into it to get more info but found that Il and NY have these types of laws also.
http://healthyschoolscampaign.org/campaign/green_clean_schools/updates.php
I've still got a cautious eye on this bird flu thing. There may still me investing opportunities there but I'm more worried about staying alive when it hits.
Maybe some of these products will be able to help us.
Seriously, has anyone had luck navigating the HC website? These are my results of trying links on the home page.
Join now- I get a blank page
Log in- Ditto
Prelaunch 2008- Computer does nothing
Join now
Become a Founder - Just get a list of supposed members
USA founders club
Is it me, my computer or is this a total hoax??
And how about that manufacturing facility??? Pretty big place for a company that hasn't produce anything yet.
I believe if there had been anything at all at least a little uplifting it would have been in this first release.
I don't invest my food budget but my next keg will still be a in the $90.00 range.
Thank you for taking the time to post this for us.
Well, I read it and don't see any "news". Apparently there will be more announcements made to clear up our concerns.
And I stayed up for this??
if these people really are in a "founders club." With all the internet search tools out there you'd think you could find one of these people to give us a glowing report on this company. I've had no such luck.
When the main thieves run for cover the others will just be victims like we are.
Beleive me I hope I'm wrong but I won't sell for .0001 just in case it moves up a little.
Thank you! I wish I had found this forum before I bought my million shares
It looked like a real company...I could actually find info about the company on the Scott Trade site... HCFE has a web site and were sending out P/Rs.
I became a real doubter when I started digging into the web site. I thought it was me or my computer but now I think not.
Has anyone tried to "learn how to become a member of the founders club?" I get a blank page. There were other links that came up blank
I got in relatively cheaply at .0009 but now I'm hoping for one last P/R that will raise it a little so I can dump it!!!
I sent my request in on Fri. also and got an immediate answer from April. She wrote telling me I forgot to include my phone # so I sent that back and did not hear from her again.