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So... what's eating Gilbert Grape? Awhile back I asked the board for opinions regarding this WNBD. Through my own DD I came away with a relatively-honest & straight-forward CEO who was Diluting "judiciously" & wasn't hiding it (which I appreciate) who had some marketing & "distribution" snafu's to manage while trying to roll the product out to the US.
I also, on the negative side felt that the cash-burn was a bit high, but understand the company's rationalization (if I read & remember it correctly) as "ramping up for growth" & be ready to handle an increase in business....
So, about 4-6weeks later I'm here again & wonder anew as to why the break through the 004 double bottom? Does anyone have a handle on why the pps slide? The downtrend is a bit disturbing; even though this may be the end of it, who knows?
I'd appreciate honest, intelligent & insightful rationale as to why the pps has been sliding a bit. TIA
PS- I should point out that I am considering establishing a considerable position in the equity. I have been doing DD & researching this stock for months now & am wondering what info can be provided by way of pps explanation from those of you more intimately associated with the stock. Thank again.
Very nice! Always enjoy your tidbits & general info posts that make us think a bit outside the box, or look at the BIGGER PICTURE.
There is a whole world out there beyond HLNT & you bring that to us on a regular basis. Thanks wiseass!!
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If you search your query, you'll find lots of support. Good Luck!!
Hey, a genuine thanks to those who invest... but while doing so, get dirty! To those who "roll up their sleeves" & get involved, who jump right in,... who choose to contribute!!
Everyone loves to get DD when they are looking at a new investment. Everyone can chip in to make the experience better, easier, more informative, & help keep everyone else abreast of our investment-- while having one another's back!!
As this stock increases in Market Cap you can be certain that more & more short interest MAY find HLNT an attractive investment opportunity-- we have seen them come & go to this point,...perhaps b/z we do our homework & get to the FACTS in EVERY situation we've encountered thus far.
Let's keep it up- this board has been the best one I have ever had the pleasure of reading & being a small part of. Thanks to Ry, D&S, Rhythm, Loan, RR, Distributors, Coats, & everyone else who chips in on a regular basis (thatguy25 for answering the call & doing the DD page!), southern, nv jumpin in with the tel #, Acoustic/Clay, & everyone else... mc, dshade, punk, the list is growing!! & hopefully we'll add more! Sorry if I left people out, I know I did--- pump, wise, & others have ALSO made great contributions to the board ... let's keep it real!! let's keep it honest, & help Coats build us an Empire here.
My apologies. No interest in moderating here. And I honestly POORLY positioned my words there. Please accept my apologies.
I was trying to acknowledge you both as well..not suggesting that the two of you "keep it real" as in ANY criticism.
When I posted I was looking for peoples names to add to the list as the editing time was running out & so I was hurrying.
SORRY for the way it reads, I see your point!! If you'd like I will re-post & correct & then ask the mods for a delete on that one.
However, you are wrong on one thing- I am no newbie. I never said a WORD about this as I accumulated shares aroudn $0006 & $0007 where initially took a smaller-ish entry position. I didn't start posting till probably almost a FULL-MONTH after while I was taking to Coats, doing DD, researching the stock & accumulating a MUCH Larger position at $0008 as I have said.
So, you have my apologies. Again, I will attempt to correct now! TY, niko
Don't forget we have the USDA (United States Dept. of Agriculture) gearing up for a decision on farmer energy-saving/emissions initiative subsidies!! When I spoke to Coats about this he was ....ABSOLUTELY GIDDY,... REALLY!!! I kid you not,... I think he is VERY high on the AGRI-BIZ, far more than the rest of us realize. Not to mention that "other" Chinese entity as well! (do some DD if you don't know what I am talking about here!)
HLNT tests showed EVEN BETTER fuel efficiency in tractors, (refrigeration units, &/or any deisel/gas engine) that revs at steady RPM's. The way Coats explained it to me, the variability of RPS's without a corresponding variability in fuel flow is just not as efficient as it could be (now the HLNT engineers have solved that variability issue with the EVEN newer model that does just that-- per Chinese request).
But, Coats' point is that the Agri-Biz spends TONS on $'s on fuel (for irrigations pumps, tractors, trucks, harvesters, combines, generators, etc., etc.,...) & that, for many farmers, fuel represents their largest on-going capital investment.
Plus new US anti-pollution regulations are taking effect starting in 2011 & instead of farmers having to buy engine modifications &/or special equipment they can buy HLNT's product & HAVE BOTH!! Fuel efficiency plus emissions control that puts them in compliance with new regulations.
As Coats put it, FARMERS share info more readily with one another than other's in industry & they currently represent a quick growing market segment--- since 'one farmer does something that helps business,... he shares it with like, 15 others! Their survival has largely evolved/depended upon communicating & helping on another'.
So with new US emissions regulations set to take hold & fuel costs rising (as a sluggish economy starts to gear up again) this translates to great savings with HLNT's product & farmers getting assistance in subsidies from the USDA. That meeting has already happened & a decision there is imminent too!!
Along with the Ark Police (~900 police cars) Green Grant (due this week), HLNT staff heading back to China, distributor bus growing in the US, & much more!! This is the time to ADD in my view, as I have & will continue to do so!
Do not take my advice, opinion or post as investment advice. Do YOUR DD, please!!! TY, nik
Ha ha haaa...not the first rodeo for this crowd.
Take a look at the other caballeros who tried to short & take this down. You don't have a scam CEO in your corner diluting the crap out of shareholders, go read past posts & look for others who have said likewise while we've racked up stellar weekly gains!!
If you do, I will BUY MORE & be glad for it. I took as MUCH as VFIN would give me around $.0012 & then at around $.002-$.0023 & am ready for more! This is still a ten bagger in my view, even from here with moderate news.
Wait till European markets are opened to the technology!! They pay 3-4 times what we do in GAS, lol. China has a TERRIBLE smog/pollution problem & a MAJOR GREEN initiative throwing BILLIONS of YEN at energy efficiency. We are perfect for them--- & many others. Besides, as I've said all along, we are a relatively UNKNOWN company, wait till ever-larger player become engaged.
I say do it! Bring it! & remember, you mess with the BULL you get the HORNS Caballero!! It takes both positions to make a trade & so I personally am grateful & hope you do! I know what I have here!!
Adios muchacho,... por ahora!
I don't know ANYONE that has let that much MONEY pass through their hands!! while sitting on a board he POSTS TO DAILY-- got to be maddening. He has been pointing out all manner of nonsense since around $.001 or lower. Now look-- ~$.017!!!
17 Bagger....
People have been discrediting this stock all the way UP; oh the chart, oh the products, oh the competition, oh the mngmnt, oh the this, oh the that, making stuff up as they go...& meanwhile, I can't contain myself!!
I wake up wondering HOW THE F DID I GET SO LUCKY? This company, story, sector, product/market, time in history, etc. this is truly an incredible opportunity!!
And, we had a dude here EVERY DAY bashing away,... being proven wrong time & again by a stellar investment board,...& he has let THOUSANDS SLIP THROUGH HIS HANDS.
If he would have bought $500 worth he would be up $8,000.00. ALL cuz Coats is NOT DILUTING ONE SHARE & that makes the stock stable, & it's in strong hands who believe this company is headed for WAY BIGGER THINGS than $.05 or $.10 per share!! UNBELIEVABLE!!
Look at the chart, the accumulation, & lack of PULLBACKS tells the STORY!! THEN, as I have been telling folks, LEARN the damn story of the company, so YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF WHAT'S WHAT!!! And why it is sooo damn EXCITING!! (or don't buy & at least ur informed...I've said all along I am buying AT LEAST into the 2's & I have been & will continue-- check with me by Thanksgiving or Christmas & we'll see who was right or wrong here!)
According to a PR that was what the Chinese "requested" recently, to see if the engineers at HLNT could make that modification.
Coats has said that they have! Thereby delivering a newer/improved model than the original on which the Chinese has already based their Letter Of Intent,...and one that will undoubtedly demonstrate even greater % INCREASES in Fuel Efficiency (isn't that also what the PD Engineer was originally bitching about??).
Part of me hopes they do not install this model on all vehicles right off the bat. I hope they make a name, sell previous model first, then let folks have a tussle over who gets to bring it to market FIRST while already having product hit the market. But, Coats has been on point & I trust his decision making. He has had one heck of a first 6months as CEO. Things are just starting to get going here.
Please, INVESTORS...do YOURSELVES a VERY BIG favor!!
1) Go through ALL the PR's linked on iHub from at least March (know what is going on,...the PR's take less than ONE MINUTE to read as they are less than one of my typical posts!!)
2) Go on the company's website, get familiar with all three divisions, how they are different & what they do.
3) Read through the iBOX & get familiar with the company, some corp details & posters info.
1, 2, 3. That's it! If you would do this you will be ARMING YOURSELF with information to deal with sellers, shorters, head fakes, drops, etc. & can begin to discuss/understand why this is an undervalued investment. DO YOURSELF THAT FAVOR.
If in the END you think it not a sound investment, then GOOD FOR YOU!! At least you are informed, but as most people have found-- the more you look, read & learn the more you LIKE. And the less folks BS will interfere with your investment decisions. THERE, now in the time it took to read this, you could have read 3PR's already--- get going!
Thanks tturner,... I am sure as the pps increases more & more people will sell; followed, of course, by a mini doom-and-gloom report-- including the after-the-fact play-by-play sprinkled with veiled "investment advice" & prognostications.
Whatever your personal investment recipe is I for one don't care. Spare us the low-volume investment pump, shameless promotion & apologies. No one needs or care for them.
The subject matter on THIS board is not tturner, his investment strategies, nor other companies but HLNT.
Please,...go on, park yourself & your cash wherever you need to... Run along!!
Yes Impact,
Had jan not posted here I would not have noticed. Kindly provide proof/substantiate or make it clear that it is you opinion. Otherwise, I suspect I will take your post down (u can do so urself if you wish).
Either substantiate facts, or make your position (eg- "opinion") clearer. Can't have it both ways amigo!
WORSE!!! He's a "victim" of his critics!! Makes ZERO sense as he SPINS his TALL TALES, puts everything through "LEGAL" & can't even keep his LIES straight!!!
As in, I will do the financials, then...all this nonsense about "doing our best" to get,...(you already made this promise w/o any issue) now we get:
"...as much of a mess as the previous financials are, we have been hacking through it and are also looking at ways we can realistically just wipe the slate clean and start from 2010, easier said than done. We are making progress though and it's coming soon." Who the hell made the mess in the first place? The SHORTERS & BASHERS no doubt!!
Here's some more nonsense-talk if you can stand it:
"...we have development right now in the area of technology and we have some websites being launched soon that will both generate revenue and new clients. We are creating divisions in several industries specifically and are looking as several acquisitions in other areas of staffing and becoming a provider of services to commission sales teams in many industries. We do have new client contracts in review and with some impressive names as well. We are building services on a consulting side of commission sales and self employment and are uncovering new revenue streams everyday which we will be announcing in the coming weeks." Oh my GOD, ugggh, listen to this mountain of GIBBERISH!! GET TO WORK!! Stop stealing & do an HONEST DAYS WORK!!! Puh-leeease!
And the previous poster SRV-90 must have been referring to this load of c-r-a-p-o-ll-a:
"Let me first apologize for my absence, I'm sure it made some of you uncomfortable and I’m sure the "paid bashers" and "shorters" had a field day with my silence over the past two weeks. Well, they are not going to get off that easy!"
Paid BASHERS?? Shorters??? I can understand shorting this POS, but really--- people get paid to bash this? Must feel like stealing, this imbecile provides so much material... This guy is so full of pompous self-serving arrogance it is sickening. REALLY DUDE??
Hey BARTON, how bout you CAN the games, stick a sock in it, & get to work on ONE THING. Bringing RESULTS to YOUR SHAREHOLDERS, you know, the ONES you don't TELL A DILUTIVE WORD TO ABOUT THE O/S INCREASES, but then reference shorters & bashers.
Get to work dude, YOU'VE already made a bunch of promises that you've yet to deliver on. No sense making any more!! Besides you TALK IN CIRCLES you BUMBLING MORON.
LMAO,..nicely done RR. Thanks again for taking the initiative & making yourself known to us through your work.
I see you have some magic to bring to the table indeed! G4U!
Chart looks real JUICY for next week! Another strong week, our 8th straight weekly gain (69.31% for the week ending Fri Oct 1st).
We saw another monthly gain, fourth in a row, & now the chart looks re-set for the China visit, Green Grant news, distributor updates, PS uplisting info, financial news, & much much more to come.
We had a tiny little pullback, as usual with HLNT as the chart tends to re-set on the fly. We ought to be looking forward to another great week next week as we test & break through $.02.
Ok so I put in an order at the ASK & got both some 6's and 5's it looks like!!
It's all good, ...like I said this thing looked like it wants to leave the pad. Don't know if we'll get the buying pressure but the 0005's looked a bit ....OVERDONE!!
Still working on a partial order here,...have not been filled here. Just an FYI. Ehhhh, scratch that, got some 5's from putting half of my buy order at the 5's AND got some 6's from another half of my order at the 6's...
Sorry thought that it was from my same order but it wasn't. Both orders are open & got very little partial fills...surprised I didn't get more 6's though...
maybe the selling has dried up a bit??? Let's hope so!
Awesome GARKING...excellent! That's what we all need, just a little bit of contributing by everyone goes a long way!!!
Let us know what you see, hear & learn; if you go take a camera or video recorder with you. Make it a project,...do it like Ryan would-- if I was there I would even interview some of these guys...maybe one of the ole timers slip up with some juicy DD. LOL.
Good for you! This good, guys that are taking the initiative to protect your investment & also helping the board as you yourself may have been helped.
We all pay it forward to each other & are more likely to help protect our collective investment &/or earn more money!!! Investing properly is NOT a passive thing-- it can be a contact sport. Either you pay attention & HIT ON an opportunity, or you risk taking the HIT by not being engaged.
Thank you!
BUYING!!! Just added some at $.0174 ...Looks good, now up we go here in just a bit!! Watch, you'll see...
I might have to test the waters and grab a bite,...until I get word from Ken G. this is looking coiled up real tight & like it wants to be let loose.
I hope I am not wrong!!
That's WHAT I'm TALKING ABOUT!!!
Bravo RR, Thanks for setting a GREAT EXAMPLE!!! And bringing more info to the board!
HAPPY AS HELL TO HAVE YOU!!
Well with execs flying out to China next week to work with DF on the other JV's & the price being what it is...if no one else is going to actively partake then I guess I'll just have to start the BUYING here soon.
Just getting rid of some more dead-wood, checking on my cash reserve & I'll be putting in orders momentarily. I don't expect to be sitting here doing nothing but chatting with you guys all day.
GL2U all, thanks for everyones contributions & I hope everyone who invests will do a little something to contribute too!
Thanks again,
Josey, eh..., I mean...niko
Excellent job Ryan digging that one out of the archives. If you haven't invested & been here awhile there is a ton of stuff that people have missed out on.
But this board has been working together looking after our investment & indirectly each other in the process. I like it!
This is a pretty good entry point. What I have said to past posters. Take an entry position, hurry & do as much DD as you can as soon as possible. You WILL be adding to that position, & probably telling us thank you & your glad u did.
We haven't had the opposite happen yet!
Lots or great things happening here-- got to read & discover for yourself. This is an amazing investment I think you won't regret amigo!
Yes DF & HLNT have signed a JV & are working together on two other JV's at least. If that was what u were asking after in your query.
OK so, it was brought to my attention that I got all Josey-like with RR & others who don't do much in the way of pitching-in on DD.
I hope I offended some of you, in a good way! Contribute, participate, we are all in this together at the moment. We need honest, helpful, contributions from everyone!
How would this investment have gone if Ry just didn't document his installation, meticulously document his mileage, & keep in touch with the company? What if D & S (Dollars and Sense) didn't go take pictures and bring them to the group? If everytime a basher showed up we didn't intelligently battle them on factual grounds with substantiated links, etc. how would things be? Some of you don't know that we have SHED admitted shorters from this investment...(never saw that before this board). Yes, they shorted, admitted as such, closed-out their position with a loss & announced their departure to the board-- no kidding!
In my opinion all these actions help make this board solid. We need new members who have questions to follow the example set by those that came before you. I know everyone appreciates the DD, discussions, solid info, truth-telling & all that--- but YOU have to NOT be a bystander & do YOUR part to.
We need a wiki-page for example-- this company does ZERO promotions, ...someone with this skill set-- step in, protect your investment & help us all build value for others to quickly know, learn & understand what an excellent investment HLNT is. We can do this-- but everyone has to be a bit more active so I don't get all Josey-ed out!! Ya follow? Thank you kindly.
(Thanks RR, I appreciate you bringing your special skill set to bear & helping us all. My apologies for being a little less than diplomatic! I look forward, as do we all, to your "report"!)
THANK YOU nvlightninglewy...I mean c'mon RR, get the damn phone number-- it ain't that hard.
YOU PEOPLE LOVE the DD other members do!! Don't YOU??? Well DO YOUR DAMN PART!!
If any posters, watchers, readers, etc. have a question, skill or talent that can be brought to bear on this investment, then DO SO!!!
It's ridiculous how EVERYONE appreciates the effort of Ryan, D&S, Distributors & MANY OTHERS-- but when they get the call, or can CONTRIBUTE THEY DON'T!!!
I don't like that & I pull the YELLOW BS CARD!! Please, everyone CONTRIBUTE!!! Stop laying more & more questions on others, do some work for crying out loud. Are we done here with this subject?? TY
Rocky u sound like the man for the JOB!! You put your questions on a list & ship 'em to 'em. Follow that up with a phone call & then report ur status to the board.
Everyone chips in here. Everyone brings some expertise to the table & puts it into action for the benefit of the board & no one poster or boardmember is obliged to do more than he/she should.
Let's all contribute our talents, time & energy to our investment!!
Git errr done!
Excellent illini22, I THANK YOU!!
I appreciate people's input is all. If you don't care to share that's fine. I am deciding what's what here & whether or not I'd like to re-establish a position as a major reversal COULD be forthcoming according to my charts.
BUT, I also like to do Fundamental DD on companies like this & Glynn's absence has not allowed me to get questions answered. Everyone's input is valuable to me...I have NO INTEREST in bashing-- I think I can get all the shares I could want to accumulate here so what's the point & I am NOT shorting this.
So, thank you for your time, patience &/or restraint for those of you who see me from time-to-time & think me a bashing nuisance. Not true but it's okay with me!
Thanks again!
Thank you BEAN for your intelligent adult remarks & post on the matter...others? TIA
I see...everything I wrote in my posts & it's the phone calls that have everyones attention. WOW.
Let me just remind you,...he asked me for a favor & I delivered (got him a paying speaking engagement to promote the company to future shareholders & the like!!!).
You follow? Ok, so he is busy, WHAT ABOUT THE PRICE ACTION AFTER PR's FOR ABOUT THE LAST TWO/THREE MONTHS-- that doesn't concern anyone?
(sorry for the caps but puh-leeease-- head out of sand, adult conversation,...how about it?)
Wow, those are some of the MOST BEAUTIFUL pictures!! Thank YOU D&S, you came through--- PICTURES WORTH A MILLION WORDS ....EACH!!!
What's due? I haven't been following everything as closely as when I was in the equity. But, please "DO NOT jump on board with me"...I am not asking after followers ... and that is NOT the intent in my communications...
What I would like to explore is real, honest, & an open discussion regarding answers to my questions. For example, why has the pps been inversely related to good PR? It seems like, for awhile now, good PR comes out & the pps goes down.
Anyway, I think a discussion would be more helpful to us all!!
ok fair enough,...I haven't spoken to him in over a month now! He actually asked me to do him a favor (hook him up with a speaking engagement) & I have not heard from him-- even though I have left him messages. You think that normal?
OKAY, I'll bite-- I'll buy it,... what about the PR's & price action?
ok, but how do you believe anything this guy says? He recently blabbed on about his restricteds, he keeps extending promises, then due dates & deadlines, & now he is hard to catch up with.
You know there are many ways for him to be selling his shares into the market. The fact that he has a GAGGED TA & hasn't remedied this ON SHORT ORDER is HIGHLY suspicious.
I am NOT saying anything here I haven't said to his face & I hope ur right in your evaluation, but...this guy keeps piling up promises & only seems to deliver enough to keep folks on the hook.
As for the "I'm not selling shares" nonsense (restriction allowing a certain yearly % & all that...) although THEORETICALLY TRUE in practice he can easily get around it; especially while hiding behind the gagged TA.
I look at the pps for the final "proof in the pudding" test...when good news comes out the price tanks! Somethings up, I am trying to get to the bottom of it, but this guy is like MIA (to me at least) ...& my inquiring mind wants to know.
I hope this is not just another potentially GREAT pinky with a wonderful story & a DB as CEO who just robs people. I want him in JAIL if that's how this turns out-- whether I am in the issue or not.
Thoughts (honest, non-hype, nor bashing, just facts & solid opinions need only apply--- trying to figure this out). TIA
You really think this goes to 4? It might be worth it to buy some, or even flip between the 4's & 6's to make a solid 50% return while this stays in an apparent holding pattern.
It seems to be locked here. I thought it might come to life after the end of August but not really.
All kinds of ways to make money in the market. Perhaps that's the best strategy for this one now. Try to buy 4's & sell into 5's/6's for a steady 25-50% gain. Not a bad return! Like it or not, that may be where SSWC is headed. Could be,... thoughts????
I guess I'll be waiting another 5months to get an answer. Ok, well, IF I hear from Ken Glynn today (calling this afternoon again), I'll be sure to pass along what happens--- hope those of you doing DD will do likewise regarding store, whereabouts, & whatever else you learn about the mystery that is SSWC at the moment.
TIA.
Just out of curiosity,...how MUCH MONEY have they made in DILUTING shareholders thus far??
I mean when this started the float was real low.
They had the Spire financing for 10Mill$'s (in 300K$'s/mo tranches), the VSP 1.75Mill$ contract, the 11Mill$'s projected revenues & then they DILUTED TO HOLY HECK!!!
So, what do they need NOW?? AND, they were saying THEN that it wasn't dilution when we came to find out it was.
Now they hire another MOUTHPIECE & things are automatically different!! Please...just give us a break already!!
ENOUGH!!
And knowing these guys history-- unfortunately, they WILL DILUTE!!!
Any update on Waldo, where is he? Where the store is? I understand that someone was contacting him about that, &/or contacting the lease offices.
Just curious, was in this one, follow it, have left messages to Ken Glynn & where in the past I used to speak to him frequently-- he has NOT returned my phone calls of late-- usually call every Friday, today will be the third in a row. Always seem to "just miss him" according to his secretary (an Eastern European sounding young woman).
Anyway, will update you with any new information I come across, hope other posters will do the same--- good or bad. Thanks, niko
Wow, just had a chance to come over here...sorry folks! I hope those that heard me chirpin' about this one months ago took heed. I know everyone is a big boy/girl in here,...but lots of folks look to PS's to make a fortune & have not been wrecked by a few CEO's yet....I was trying to help those people.
Obviously, not by telling them what to do, but what an experienced investor thought was going on & tried to warn as many as I could.
I hope it turns out well for y'all, but those of you that know these CEO's know how dishonorable they have been, gl2ua!