Rottenapple, talking about funny stuff, Butterfly posts:

"IMO 45 units covers maybe 2 hospitals."

Then a few posts later in a reply to Scared:

"...I post PRs that have a connection to cdex is that pumping? Hype= overstatement. I have not seen any hype on this stock at all.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

Congrats doyoudd you're gonna be rich!

Capnmike, ATXMAN appears to be consistent with his take on the DCH story.

You have to understand that there is a timeline involved and ATXMAN visited the hospital during a period when Valimed was first intoduced into the hospital. I beleive it was said that Valimed was undergoing alpha (or beta) testing.

Comparing AXTMAN's statement with Baxa's FAQ's over a year later really doesn't make much sense.

Wasn't it CDEx and DCH that reportedly fulfilled their "contractual agreement"?

Wasn't that well after AXTMAN's visit? I would suggest that perhaps DCH put a unit into operation after fulfillment of the agreement.

Maybe DCH received a free Valimed unit (for on-going beta testing and refinement) after assisting CDEx in the capturing of high risk med signatures por los ninos?

I think that such an alliance would certainly be a win-win approach for both parties and consistent with AXTMAN's story.

In any event, it would appear that you're trying too hard to discredit AXTMAN without thinking reasonably about how the events quite possibly unfolded.

I wonder who this Intelluctual_one poster is on the Lochlong board that claims Valimed units will sell for 125K and lease for 2.5K @ 60 mos.

It doesn't appear as if the Longs are taking his information seriously even though I read speculation on the TCL board that Valimed could possiby lease for 2k @ 60 mos.

Not too far off, why so much mistrust?

Maybe if Dave bring him into the sanctuary he will have more believers.

But Crow, they're saving the innocent children from medical errors!!! It's revolutionary!!!

Remember the Loch Harris jingle?

"Technology that can change the world"

"Applications that can touch the heart"

Has the theme really changed?

Unanswered question for Edge:

Poteet agreed, saying, "Each of the parties is enthusiastic about projects in the other’s pipelines. I know we at SSI couldn’t be more excited for the opportunity to join Loch Harris and be a special part of the ELF and VAMMP technologies. Many opportunities exist with this joint relationship."

Excerpt, Loch Harris PR, August 17, 1999.

Well Onetheedge, that doesn't sound like an inventor talking about his invention to me.

I understand that Dr. Poteet was too "busy in the lab" (if that is still your story) to know that false information was allegedly being desseminated by Loch management, but can it be true that he never once looked at the Loch Harris website and read the PR's. Not even his partner Cauthen?

Neither of them?

Ever?

http://www.lochharris.com/pr/81799.html

"Rumor has it that Loch was shorted there???"

Riorancho rumor. But it could be true, especially if insiders knew in advance what the game plan was for loch Harris.

It would appear as if Hotel00 knew.

Navy chemical detection technology now on market

http://www.dcmilitary.com/navy/seaservices/9_01/national_news/26894-1.html

doyourdd, can she get into the RB message boards or only Lycos finance?

Crow, keyword: whined. LOL

Technest Provides Status Update on Remote Standoff Chemical Agent and Explosives Detection Sensor Development Program

Monday January 16, 10:47 am ET

$1M in Government and Corporate R/D Capital Expended to Date Has Produced a Powerful Remote Standoff Sensor Design


BOSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 16, 2006--Technest Holdings, Inc., (OTCBB:TCNH.OB - News), a defense and homeland security company which is transforming advanced laboratory technology into real-world products, announced today a status update on its ongoing Automated Adaptive Chemical Exploitation System (AACES) remote sensor research and development effort. This research and development program is a funded Phase II U.S. Army SBIR, and has been undertaken by its wholly owned subsidiary EOIR Technologies Inc. in cooperation with the US Army Night Vision and Electronic Sensors Directorate (NVESD).

The AACES passively detects vapor based anomalies that arise from infrared-active chemicals in the air. The remote standoff detection sensor maps out anomalous detections within a 10(degree) x 14(degree) field of view with 1.5(degree) precision. On-board algorithms enable rapid reporting of detection of a host of chemical agents which can be found in chemical and explosive weapons. While the technology is advanced, the sensor is designed for easy use and interpretation. The AACES has the potential to enhance military and Homeland Security protection against a host of chemical and explosive threats which create airborne vapor signatures as well as facilitate battlefield tactics during the suspected use of chemical warfare agents. The AACES will also prove critical for the safety of first-response teams during disasters, as well as for determining safe escape routes for disaster victims. Earlier versions of this technology were used by the company in the days immediately following 9/11 to provide detection of dangerous chemical plumes found in the World Trade Center disaster site via airborne surveillance sensing. Additional data can be found for this project at http://www.technestholdings.com/ technology_portfolio/crisis_support.html (Due to the length of this URL, it may be necessary to copy and paste this hyperlink into your Internet browser's URL address field.)

The AACES has been tested in both laboratory and field environments at several stages of its research and development. AACES sensor test sites have included the US Army's Ft. A.P. Hill and Dugway Proving grounds, where chemical warfare agent simulant releases and detonations have been monitored. As the final stages of prototype development draw to a close, additional field tests will occur at both the US Army's Ft. Belvoir and Ft. A.P Hill.

Upon completion of commercial product development the company expects to have significant opportunities to sell the sensors to military and government intelligence agencies as well as to all segments of the Homeland Security marketplace. The AACES is projected to sell at a price of about $250,000 per unit. Additional data on the AACES can be found at

http://www.technestholdings.com/technology_portfolio/chemical_detection.html

(Due to the length of this URL, it may be necessary to copy and paste this hyperlink into your Internet browser's URL address field.)

Technest wholly owned subsidiary EOIR Technologies receives significant annual funding under an NVESD omnibus contract. The omnibus contract Option Year Four was awarded on July 15, 2005. Since that date EOIR Technologies Inc. omnibus contract awards have totaled over $29.0 million. As of November 30, 2005 EOIR Technologies Inc. had funded backlog of $55.2M.

The ongoing Omnibus contract may provide a maximum ceiling amount of up to $80 million in fiscal year revenues. Many of the products and services being delivered on this contract utilize next-generation electro-optic and infrared sensor technologies that are being used in direct support of U.S. military combat operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. The Army's NVESD has been responsible for numerous key innovations in the fields of optical electronics and thermal imaging for weapons targeting, electronic surveillance and other mission-critical military applications.

EOIR Technologies, Inc. has been providing innovative sensor engineering products and services to customers within the Department of Defense for nearly twenty five years

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060116/20060116005396.html?.v=1

Those damn Canadian shorters, it's all their fault!

Excerpt:

"In fact he often lies outright in fraudulently claiming these scammy stocks he touts and represents are'naked shorted',meaning non-existent shares are being electronically produced out of thin silicon or software that do not exist,by brokers and market makers like Charles Schwab, to drive the stock prices down when he knows for a fact fraudulent company management are really engaged in illegal pump and dump activities while his Nasdaq friends and the SEC look the other way."

Kind of rings a bell.


http://www.stlimc.org/newswire/display/1041/index.php

Poteet agreed, saying, "Each of the parties is enthusiastic about projects in the other’s pipelines. I know we at SSI couldn’t be more excited for the opportunity to join Loch Harris and be a special part of the ELF and VAMMP technologies. Many opportunities exist with this joint relationship."

Excerpt, Loch Harris PR, August 17, 1999.

Well Onetheedge, that doesn't sound like an inventor talking about his invention to me.

I understand that Dr. Poteet was too "busy in the lab" (if that is still your story) to know that false information was allegedly being desseminated by Loch management, but can it be true that he never once looked at the Loch Harris website and read the PR's. Not even his partner Cauthen?

Neither of them?

Ever?

http://www.lochharris.com/pr/81799.html

Loch Harris acquires rights to semiconductor technology
Austin's Loch Harris Inc. [OTC BB: LOCH] has acquired the rights to a technology that cuts semiconductor manufacturing times by two orders of magnitude, according to company executives. Purchased with restricted stock, the technology -- called a Shack Hartmann wavefront sensor -- provides computer-based alignment and evaluation of complex optical systems, including research telescopes, laser systems and microscopes. Unlike previous Shack Hartmann devices, the newest sensing tool provides one-billionth of a meter accuracy without disturbing what's being studied -- 100 times greater than previous devices. The technology is under development by Chemical Detection Technology Inc. of Tuscon, Ariz.

"cuts semiconductor manufacturing times by two orders of magnitude..."

Wow!! Over 100 times faster!!

Does CDEx own this technology now? LOL


http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/1999/11/08/daily26.html

"He was employer of ex-CIA Chief Colby when he died in 1996 approximately and a google search,'clinton davidson colby'' will find a newsmax article with very interesting slant and prediction of death in advance.Also it appears his Agora Publications promoted or 'touted' the penny stock Ionatron,an illegal pump and dump that benefitted George Tenet and CIA insiders with their In-Q-Tel holdings of that company's shares recently.(see CIA Tenet J.D. Davidson connesected Bonner meet at New Orleans Symposium.' on http://www.spitzer2006.com "

Maybe that's how ex-CIA retire with no strings attached.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/preview_redirect.asp

"These corrupt liars who call themselves lawyers know this.Endovasc of Montgomery, Texas is a perfect example of this fraud that Houston attorneys O'Quinn and Christian aid and abet.After a phoney 40 for 1 'reverse split' in 2002 that should have left under 3 million shares existing they concealed shares they were dumping from a Charles Schwab account that O'Quinn, in a 2002 BusinessWire pr fraudulently or stupidly attributed to 'naked shorting' and also many more offshore."

Another excerpt:

" have already reported the fact that Charles Schwab instead provided an illegal pump and dump account of 'up to 30 million' Endovasc shares' in one account for James Dale Davidson's ,David P Summers', Dwight Cantrell's,and apparently Judge Ken Reilly's illegal promotion through Agora Inc.in late 2002.This may have been from Schwab's LOM of Bermuda account that the SEC was investigating in 2004.James Dale Davidson,founder of the National Taxpayers Union was at one time a substantial shareholder of LOM and he was the one who lied and promoted through his Agora Inc.penny promotions headquartered in Baltimore."

http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=1289

LOL!! RA, ya beat me to the punch!!!

"While Declan McCallagh's overly general thesis that 'offshoreing' is good for you is in itself debatable the use of RagingBull is a very poor example to say the least.For one,RagingBull was a U.S. Carnegie Mellon 'invention'I believe.And secondly it has been,and continues to be,the source of a huge cyber fraud and cyber bullying operation for years and makes John Reed Stark and his Internet Enforcement (OIE)branch of the Securities Exchange Commission a laughing stock to the extent many defrauded investors who had their 'investments' stolen in illegal pump and dump and probable money laundering activities and even if much was this money transacted in accounts such as those of Charles Schwab and other onshore brokerage accounts their money was quickly moved offshore,decreasing Americans' wealth while not contributing to anything other than an a mafia with international tentacles."

http://news.com.com/5208-1028-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=11236&messageID=83465&start=-1

Interesting how Chuck was singled out!

Will do Crow..... Holy smokes!!!!


"What I am getting at regarding ragingbull.com is that virtually every penny stock scam in recent years that has promoted illegal pump and dump activities,(most while the SEC has looked the other way),as well as the few they have persued have had or still do have a message board on RagingBull..."

"Lycos began as a search engine at Carnegie Mellon and paradoxically its ragingbull.com that provides message boards that censor or delete critics or defrauded investors from posting and allow known penny stock frauds to continue and insiders to the scams to promote known penny stocks frauds is itself like a dark alley of the internet where search engines don't go."

Quite interesting Crow!

Capnmike, I think you need to update your files, unless of course you have a reason for posting outdated information.

"d4diddy, you indicate XRF technology is why you invested in CDEX"

That is not correct Cap, please reread my post.

INET, about CDEX, CEX, lies, deception and video games...

"For goodness sake everybody is bit33433=ng that Cdex is telling us nothing and you are telling us they are giving us lies and deception."

No Sir, I didn't say that. My point was that by CDEx not disclosing enough information about Valimed, it became a field day for people to speculate about appliactions and things the unit does not do.

The Baxa info has put some of that speculation to rest.

Well INET, it looks like you knew more than a lot of people.

Did you know that XRF cannot detect and identify VOC's?






I agree with those that believe the Baxa FAQ information has been the best we've had sofar.

It has removed some of the speculation on what the unit "can do" and what it "cannot do".

Holy smoly... alota deleted posts!! eom

Crow,

Cappy has many useful links with good information... on the other hand, he has some not so good posts with rather suggestive information IMO.

My main interest still lies in the original revolutionary XRF technology that detects and discriminates trace explosives through thick and thin.

That's why I invested.

"I do not care how "comfortable" you are. Read the BAXA FAQ.. the only source of information available, that is not filled with an overdose of lies and deception."

BINGO!!!!!!!

Remember how everyone thought Tomscheboy was a saint?

That proved to be a dangerous investment strategy.

There are many ways to disseminate information which can be misleading to the uninformed and there are many uninformed readers when it comes to this esoteric technology.

Is it all good intentions or are there ulterior motive?

Who knows, but when a pattern of publishing information which can be so easily misinterpreted by the uninformed occurs time and time again it's appropriate and in the best interest of shareholders to make light of it for consideration IMO.

Crow,

The Baxa FAQ information does raise some interesting questions!

The only thing that I've commented on was that the integration time has doubled. And as you mention, the unit isn't discriminating trace quantities of substance as were the original claims of the UVF instruments CDEx advertised for explosive detection.

This ordeal has gone from:

- Field XRF detection of trace (PPB) explosives at 2 meters in virtually real time to..

- Field XRF detection of explosives at 34 inches (according to wpoteet) in 5-12 seconds (concentration unknown) to..

- UFV detection of trace explosives at about two inches in 30 seconds (approx.) to...

- Laboratory UVF detection of known, bulk medicinal substances at under an inch in 12-30 seconds to...

- Laboratory UFV detection of known, bulk medicinal substances at under an inch in 30-60 seconds.

I believe that the issue of whether the sample must be pulverized (destructive testing) has to do with the limitations of UV penetration. I don't think that clear liquid solutions have this problem so validation of high risk IV solutions would appear to be a valid application.

"Maybe check bootleg "shine" or poisons for lead or mercury."

Yes, a valid application, except an XRF-based instrument is used to screen for heavy metals NOT a UVF-based instrument such as Valimed. I believe the Booze Buster (TM- someone) idea was to authenticate the hooch by a spectral fingerprint of the "organic" content.

XRF detects and identifies elemental heavy metals, UVF does not!

Oh, and BTW, just so I don't mislead anyone, XRF instruments (and other instrumnets) have been checking all sorts of things for heavy metal contamination for decades and it doesn't require revolutionary technology to do so.

"d4diddy, is this a status report on your group action?"


"ferpitysake, mike ... can't you read?

surely a bright man like you who does such massive research can read.

try reading it again."


Well... did you read it again?

March 26, 2006 DaBoyz are off the civil liability hook. eom

bad piggie

CDEX has amended their patent application 10/268,678 on 1/05/06.

They have taken the examiners advise and changed the wording in the 4 independent claims from:

"...wherein the system is operable at large stand-off distances"

to:

"...wherein the system is operable at least about one meter"

It would appear as if this is going to make the difference between final rejection for obvious and anticipated technology and revolutionary patented technology.

Crow....


... or the tag team!

Crow,

Naw, definitely not moon-the-philanthropist, he secretly admired Bloc because he was a veteran combat helicopter pilot (world-class).

And he also beat-up some French guys in a bar that were bad-mouthing Americans.

Loto,

You don't know who you are? LOL

Rotten,

Yes that was my guess, but Jammon was running a close second.

Who knows, they may have set up another tag team operation like they did I RB- kismet47.

We could all be right! LOL

Xenophon,

Could be Jammon46, errr... I mean Jammon40.

Not Nasfanium though, I believe that he still posts occasionally under another alias.

"Give it a rest, or thats how you make your paycheck..."

Are you suggesting that I'm a "paid Basher" (spit)?

Valimed has a reputable distributor and is in at least seven known hospitals because it has some merit. That has been established.

Anything other than that is pure speculation and we all know the history of speculative, suggestive posts in the Loch/CDEx saga. ZERO!

How many people would be financially better off if Tomscheboy never worked for Boone and Baker? Plenty but certainly not Boone, Baker et al.

I would suggested that posters performing these speclulative "services" give it a rest. Cedex will sink or swim on it's own merit. That type of posting just reminds readers of the Loch Harris scam.

In fact, if it hadn't been for Arturo's hyping posts a few years back, I probably wouldn't be posting my views today.

INET,

While your intentions were admirable I have to agree with the others that suggested you not include the loch saga.

I also agree with Raiderman in that your intro letter should have been much more concise. A nippler with your best bait, then a follow-up phone call is your best bet.

I hope you continue having fun on the boards. Now I know why you post here.

Personally I think you should set up a mill in your garage and do a little side work. LOL

"It is frustrating, though, to not be able to get the full picture about this company. If those of us who have been long for soooooooooolong and who have read and re-read every document don't know much, think about those who might want to invest in this company."

Has it ever occurred to Loch/CDEx shareholders that the person that was running the show behind the scenes at Loch is running the show for CDEX- or at least using the exact same blueprint.

Not having the "full picture" is a very useful tool for highly invested shareholders to use when they post speculative and suggestive posts in order for investors to see the potential of CDEx!

It is exactly what was done in the past and is exactly what is happening now.

Never ever any concrete facts, only suggestive speculation.

Take capnmike's silly reply to my simple question as an example. I asked for one simple and specific fact and got inundated with links to people's opinions on an entirely different subject matter.

The fact that he replied with a salvo of irrelevant links that didn't answer my simple question is answer enough.


Irrelevant:

- not relating to the subject

Crow,

What past RB poster couldn't control his emotions, posted obnoxiously at times and gave readers the impression of not having a high maturity level?