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Please add something to this list and repost with your addition so the new people can see what ARTS has going for it as company.
1. The diluting appears to have stopped
2. Financing should be in place
3. New PR firm (hopefully equipped with their own investor leadlist).
4. DPO trading date for Artfest Direct should be by Christmas.
5. Squeeze trigger pending.
6. Picasso deal close and sale possible.
7. New location should = more income
I would also like to hear what others have to say about this. Would the MM hold this stock down another 2 months and ignore any news? Would holding this stock back help them avoid any triggers pending? Are we being had by the MM and rendered helpless should this occur?
I'm not sure of what to make of what you're saying here but it sounds believeable. but what would be the MM's motivation to tank this stock? They have shorted the heck out of it alright. Please paint your picture of what you think is happening as I like to hear all points of views. I would not like to be blind-sided if there are other possibilities. I still don't see any reasaon for them to do this except to avoid dealing with the triggers.
Both you and lyrralt have good points and I have no intentions of selling below .02. Honestly, I don't think well'll ever get the chance to sell once the stock starts to run. I don't know if you were around on the last run but it was like putting a match to dry hay.
I'd keep my eyes peeled for whatever actions this new PR firm intend to take once their in the drivers seat. The PR firm that spearheaded GOIG did so wonderfully. I'm hoping for a good firm to come in and give us a much needed and long awaited ride.
GLTA
I keep thinking that this new PR firm may hold the key to a run...what do you folks think? News coming out of the open house might be the best news ever but it has to be presented properly, using the right mode.
Browning,Patience, skyhigh, oatmeal and a few others...I like the fact that you folks stay on the fence and avoid coming down on either side as I try to do. There is always logic in balance. I just want to avoid getting blinded by being one-sided heading in any direction...know what I'm saying? I would like to think that what caused me to put my money into ARTS still holds true but I have to keep checking on the issues as they crop up.
Welcome to the board Rodman! Great question as a new pair of eyes will produce such overlooked items.
But there has to be pie in the sky...or am I expected to keep my head in the sand? I honestly don't know what to make of ARTS anymore. The stock has been trading sideways for how long now?
And each week there are different group a of people selling more predictions who are ready to attack those who say otherwise or question their predictions. Face it folks...it just hasn't happened and your insisting that it will isn't making it happen either!
Question anything now and you're being negative...what about being concerned about your money? Are we allowed to do that here anymore? I'm not going to invest with my head in the sand for anyone. I have a lot of money tied up in this thing and if you don't like my questioning what is happening then I don't know what to tell you because I'm not giving ARTS a free pass to spend and not be held accountable.
You mean to tell me that you don't think that 4 months is a long time for a stock to decline? Well you're welcomed to keep your head where ever it is you've got it but for the CEO to say "I'm running a company and not worrying about the PPS" just doen't sit well with me. Would you worry about the PPS if your paycheck wasn't there on Friday Mr. CEO? Would you worry about the PPS if financing stopped and there was no more people to dilute your stock to?
It is a good thing that I'm not going to this so called open
house that everyone is expecting to produce wonders and push the stock up beyond a penny because I would be very confrontational with this guy and not kiss up like I'm expecting most to do.
They're shorting the stock to ground level and what is the CEO doing or saying about it? It is far past the time for this stock to show signs of life and if the rest of you don't like my questioning why it hasn't then too bad!!
Big mistake...Your guess is as good as any of us. No one knows the answer to that one. Thats like some 28 year old kid saying what shares I don't own but turning around and saying that he could purchase half of those shares in a single trade. My point is that anyone here can guess or assume anything. You see the "ifs", IMHO's and the off the cuff predictions all the time but how many have actually been right over the last 4 months? At least once a day someone will predict today or soon but what has happened thus far?
The best chart guys out there have given up trying to predict this one...You've been here, you've seen it too. This one is like a storm brewing out in the gulf. You can see it and know that it is coming but don't know where it is going to land or how long it's going to last.
Sounds about right...not worried about share price therefore its reflected in same. Just what you'd like to hear from the CEO of a company in which you've invested your money.Still waiting to hear his response about that duplicate PR on the building from 2 years back.
This link posted to another board...May or may not be of interest to board members here.
http://www.otcequity.com/?p=168
Hey, let's pretend that this article was never found or posted - LOL. I can't believe that everyone is pretending that this article does not pose a problem. Did or did they not purchase a 35000 square foot studio in 2008? If so, why is it not in any financials? If not, why is there a PR stating otherwise? Did it take them 2 years to acquire the studio - if it's the same one? Is anyone pulling their head out of the sand to look at this? Other than Patience?
Let me guess - I'm gonna be the bad guy again for asking a question...
I so appreciate your honest response. I fear that some here are getting worked up for what could result in a huge let down. I continue to read the "ifs", "supposes" and IMHO and as they grow into near fish story size exaggerations. What is making these individuals think that there is to be big news this weekend? Did I miss something?
No one among us want there to be big news as bad as I do but I do not remember reading anything to suggest that we can expect anything other than a sandwich, jar of Koolaid and some after dinner mints coming out of that open house.
First,the Picasso is currently on consignment until ARTS pays for it and to the best of my knowledge hasn't it sold...so that's an "if",and not solid DD. Second, the dividends that you refer to has yet to list in my account so now we're dealing with a "when" or possibly even an "if". How long do you think that I've been posting on this board? Well I've read the press releases but wouldn't dare think of using them or even referring to them for my DD and hope that you're not doing so either.
Last, " loading my truck up with ARTS stock". I currently own over 80 million shares...just how much more would you suggest I load onto that truck?
Appreciate your response....
~Pete~
My concern is that even with whatever news that is generated from the weekend open house, we stay where we are. Many have blasted me for pointing out that they've had 31 press releases with no real response from the street. What is going to make this weekend so special? So rather than pointing out some of the positive things that may be mentioned, they come back with rude comments.
You can say GO ARTS all day long but saying that isn't going to move the PPS.
Who among you can tell me what you think is going to actually move the PPS or tell me what it is you expect the CEO is going to say that going to push us into a trigger? Blast me as much as you'd like but do it with solid DD!
They probably won't have much to say as they've had nearly a year of saying that they were right. I'm hoping that you'll get your turn to say otherwise because with 80 mil (don't bother sending me a PM asking me not to state my position) that would make me a happy man.
I see more predictions are stacking up for this week to be a great week..wonder what the predictors will say if it doesn't happen?
Glad you asked that question...and to the correct person because I've been in real estate for more years than I care to mention or remember. Many people who get evicted will move to a cheaper rent and actually gain more space so there is no way of knowing. As you may know, rent in one area may be cheaper in another and come with more space. Location, location, location. Not to mention that the economy is such that landlords in all types of real estate are hurting and will take just about anybody...yes even Maximedia.
It's time we all stop making excuses and look for the truth and only. Maybe you're correct that they've checked ARTS out and found them to be a desirable tenant...but then again...maybe they're just happy to fill vacant space. I don't know the true answer to that question...do you?
My subject matter primarily challenges predictions that have served no purpose other than to frustrate the readers. I do make it a conscious effort to acknowledge accomplishments as I encounter them but as patience 123 pointed out, there has only been projects initiated and none completed. There is no doubt that you can name me several things that ARTS has as work in progress but not a single thing has been completed. But again, the subject of ARTS accomplishments or lack thereof was not part of my post.
As for the comment about walking into Maximedia and making a statement like what you’ve exaggerated here takes us farther away from my subject matter and places us nowhere for future discussion. However, since you saw fit to bring it up, why is ARTS actually moving? Is it to acquire a larger space or is it for reasons as some have suggested (eviction from the current location)? Here you can speculate but do you actually know? Do you honestly know what “level it is we are working at” or are you doing what so many others do here…assume or speculate?
I’m reading a lot of ifs in your post (just as I do in the post containing IMO’s, speculations and predictions) none of which has served any purpose to date. Does anyone actually know if the MLM is really producing new members and generating new sales or are we still assuming? The amount of visits to ARTS various sites suggest that there isn’t a lot going on. Yes there could be rewards if ARTS is successful at getting any of its many projects off the ground…but that remains to be seen doesn’t it?
More speculation as I see it. The predictions continues come and go but for over 4 months now, they've all fallen by the wayside. Again, there has been 31 press releases generated without a single bump, so what do you know that others do not that will make this time different from the other 31 times? Okay, so you're predicting a move up, using what to support your statement?
I personally think that it is unfounded statements that has everybody so tensed. We started out with people saying ARTS would reach .03 by fall, then Christmas. Some have lowered their expections since the tripple zero's came about and are down to .0020, .0030, .0040 etc. predictions. I spent yesterday reading old post from the same people who made all of these wild predictions.
The truth is that none of you know when or if this thing will run or where it will run to so why say this sort of stuff? The message board was full of chart predictor week before last who have all now given up. Lots of parting last words posted LMAO.
I'm more concerned about why it is that ARTS is moving to a now location. I've seen this company take a bad situation and turn it into fluff, so I'll remain concerned until I hear what it is they have to say.
Even with good news, there is nothing saying that the MM will move the PPS. Heck, as it is they ignore the actual value of the stock and surpress the living hell out of it when it starts to show signs of movement.
IMO, ARTS should have stopped the dilution a hell of a lot sooner than they did. Crawling out of this sub penny position has proven to be a lot harder than most of us expected so we spend out days doing wishful predictions. Got something real besides reposted PR's that didn't work the first time? I'm using your post to write this but I'm posing this question to all of the would be predictors.
31 PRESS RELEASES SINCE THE LAST RUN IN APRIL***
And not a single bump. What makes any of you think that the report due out on Aug.19th or the expected announcement on the 21st will do what those 31 press releases could not do? 31 attempts is a lot of chances to move this stock north, but not a single PR could do the trick.
The MM continues to French kiss either other with with shares to avoid a trigger and we sit wishful thinking and offering IMVHO'S.From .0141 to .0003 and a flatline that we could do without and yet we're still sitting on the bottom for over a month. Should this sort of thing be happening to a stock that most of you say shows all kinds of promise?
I don't know what (if anything) this CEO intends to say that will boost us back to pennyland (where we belong) but it had better be good because his last 31 attempts have failed. What I'd really like to hear is that his company has filed a complaint against the MM's with the SEC or that he intends to buy back his stock. What about a solid date that Artfest Direct will trade. Again, after 31 attempts...what he says had better be darn good!
You've made it sound as if you're only here for turnovers...so why worry about it?
Also,
To: liontamer you were right about that other person whom you told to move on if they had to continue with the things they are saying. Good for you! I cannot stand kissing up and it sound like a lot of that is expected here.I Think that we're all ready for ARTS to make that move but like you, I intend to say what I feel. What you said to the guy wasn't being disrespectful just to the point...a point a lot of others were probably thinking.
I like you liontamer but I will take my million now please sir....LMAO
See thats it...ARTS never does anything except promise and not deliver. What aren,t we waiting on for ARTS to complete? Yes they could say that they will reduce the O/S but have they? Guess they are waiting for a no bid status first.Could the PPS be much lower? New PR firm huh? Well they need to start before the party because the PPS is hurting and pond frogs are crying for rain.
before you come back to me with an response...how long have you been into ARTS and what do you own it for? Ask Scott if he is feeling ARTS like you are right now. Arts has cost a lot of people a lot of money and the last thing that want to hear is the stuff you're selling.
GO ARTS...I refer to the PPS here
WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? At this point we should all be saying if....I hear this day in and day out but we go down or at best sideways.
Now this is a really good post and speaks directly to the problem here with thought control. ARTS is not the perfect stock but many here would have you say otherwise. As a matter of fact, they practially insist that you say otherwise. Steven Slater needs to be on this message.
So tomorrow we do the same thing all over again(hitting an ask). I'm expecting ARTS to step up and give us somthing to push this baby into trigger land. After all it was Big Apple and Arts that put the PPS in gutter.I say cancel that stock holders gayla and hire the Dean or the people who promoted GOIG into pennyland.
I would love to be able to talk this stock up but I only see the share holders pushing this thing. Now that you've sucked the life out of the stock CEO...Can't you aside some of those never ending projects to pump this a little?
I honestly don't understand this mention because ARTS doesn't own Maximedia and Vanillia is a flash in the pan has been. But maybe there is another purpose to your mentioning this. Is there another reason why you are bringing this up?
.001? Give me a break! Got any idea of how many are in over .0040 or even 0070? We won't even talk about those stick well above either of those numbers...
See what did I tell ya...a lot of these guys are just stuck in super-sub-pennyland.
Are you kidding me? New here aren't you? The only movement I've seen is down, so sideways is a step up. You'll hear newer guys who got in in the tripple zero range talk this stock up...been doing it all weekend actually but look at what happens on Monday...LMAO. All of the refried PR, graphs, charts and IMO fall by the wayside come Monday (as alway).
R/S and run camps are doing business as usual. You'll hear a lot of predictions and who knows, maybe one day someone will actually hit the lottery on guessing the day a run or an R/S will happen but today it seems we will go sideways again.
Now they'll get mad because I'm pointing this out but I care as much about that as I do about the wrong predictions that stacked up over the weekend.
What we need is for the company to step in and jump start this thing with a good, paid promo instead of spending money on a gayla on the 21st. A paid promo would get us across the squeeze zone line.
I see your point here....
Just wondering where you guys with all the make believe DD and predictions come from? Can you just keep it real? I've actually had my fill with the IMHO etc. One guy come along and says that he heard the Picasso. Ever see him post before? Has he posted since?
And the "what if's" are killing me. What if you just keep it to the actual fact and cut the fluff? "We're going down to 0003 on Monday and then on to .0001? And you know that because? R/S soon? Says who? There is so much BS on here that it makes me sick...can you just keep to the fact? If you don't know any facts can you just shut up?
Man this was on the money as far as I'm concerned...We're back to 5-6 and dipping to 4's? Holding big here also and watching a lot of cool heads jump ship while management is blowing off my emails and pressing forward with empty PR's and promises of what is to come that never seems to get here. I'm now 9 months into a decline...think I'm happy?
I was pumped up last week, in hope of something that would boost the PPS. I read where this Michael J. would do wonders for the stock...Clearly that was another snow job. Not willing to give the MM all of these shares for nothing but ARTS had better get up off their a$$es and produce a run soon or I will have to part company.
Great post Patience 123!
All I care about is if he can move the PPS higher. I recall reading a post here that suggested that if his name was mention the PPS would shoot up like cazy...So his name was mentioned and the person placing that post obviously had some inside infomation. Now lets see if this stock can move up.
I'm looking for at least .02. Now sitting on 80 mil.
LMAO...Yeah, I dream like that too...but then I wake up.
The CEO’s response on RFID technology was originally sent to me VIA email and I subsequently posted it on this board as well as Yahoo. He talks to me a lot because he knows that I’m brilliant….LMAO. Okay so you guys can see through that last part but you have to admit I'm kind of funny....
The CEO answers a post from another board...The folling is what he had to say.
The guy is clearly ill informed and NOT computer literate . So here let me explain. 1.RFID has been out for over 30 years as an inventory control and tracking tools. 2. Artfest has a very powerful “Enterprise System”, that we are currently using for our Direct Marketing Business. ( Artfest Direct). 3. Our system will read and track the “StarFest Technology Chips (RFID)” and maintain all the “provenance” and the database, as well as keep tracking of the sales. 4. Our system, and the SarFest Technology Chips, ARE compatible with other “Inventory Systems”, as they adhere to the world standard protocol. 4. So, all manufacturers and Retailers, will be able to “read” our chips. 5. We will also make our software available for downloads in case someone is not able to read the chips. 6. The smart phones will also be able to read our chips. 7. As for the “patents”, we have copyright protection for our software codes.( which means that you have protection, but you don’t have to disclose the codes.) 8. I believe that with our “gold Standard “Protocol that we are developing, we will help to standardize the Manufacturing Process for memorabilia and Art, that employs an added protection with Starfest Technology Chips. I hope that this will clear up the ranting of a person who is simply not intelligent enough to understand how the technology works and how it will affect our industry.
Best regards,
Hey, there is talk of there being news due out on both Tuesday and Thursday...who knows about this?
Been waiting 9 months....Is today the the day?
To engage this guy at this point is to continue drawing negative attention to ARTS. Clearly his mind is made up and hopefully he will be on his way after he sells his shares on Monday morning…first thing I hope.
Thank God for cool heads. Sl62 there is much logic in everything you have tried to convey here over the past couple of days. There is no particular person or group that I follow when purchasing a stock but I sure as heck would love to follow your buying plays. There are a lot of egos here but you’re all business and logic…nothing else. So should this stock finally act right and head north, where do you see it slowing, stopping and possibly restarting? I’ve been around since November of 2009 and have seen what this rascal can do at the sound of solid news. Being at these lows is nothing if this stock stays consistent with its history heading north and if those irons in the fire start to catch, then look out because you’ll probably get to see something that will amaze and make many of us very rich and very quickly.