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In the infamous words of Rodney King, "can't we all just get along?"
I'm glad that if that's what they were going to do, they made it happen today rather than tomorrow morning.
Well, to me the point is that the MMs can do a LOT of damage in a very short time if they feel that they can get away with it.
In the case of Global, the pps would have gone through the roof since so many people were buying, ...except... the shares that they were buying were "naked" shares (Counterfeit shares) that didn't really exist, and since the supply was therefore seemingly endless to meet the demand, the price didn't have to (couldn't) rise.
In the case of this stock, the R/M makes us know that we have something new and interesting added to the mix, which just might spell real financial growth from this point, ...the MMs know that too but to them it could mean disaster, so they will (at least) be attempting to manipulate the market whenever it is not moving upward due to buying pressure at the ASK.
"Let us PRAY."
One very conspicuous example of just how bad the naked shorting issue is, was Global Links in 2005. This was a rare occasion where the complete data was available and was also indisputable.
Global Links was caught off guard by the events that transpired in February 2005 when it implemented a 350 for 1 - reverse split of its stock, the result of which would reduce its float from 350 million shares to 1.1 million.
The reverse split went into effect Feb 1. ...In the first four days of trading, more than 143 million shares traded hands. This is despite the fact that the stock was trading under a new ticker and a new trade tracking number, and despite the fact that it had only 1.1 million shares issued.
We can hope that the flagrant disregard for the law and any regulation is not quite as prevalent today as it was two years ago. Today the world is beginning to watch their activities a bit more closely.
If the O/S stays at 1.7m then we have a good chance of becoming happy campers.
But, ...(BUT)... those criminals who Naked Shorted the TQWI stock to death are the same ones who are the MMs for the DVFA stock. They're not above selling 20 million new (naked) shares on Monday morning. They do it every day. But one thing in our favor is that surly they're now concerned that their day of judgment is nearing and the lights are beginning to shine on them. Maybe they will be a bit more careful with this blank sheet. We can hope.
Playing this game sometimes feels like the uphill battle isn't worth it, (fighting the corruption of the MMs and their Bashers) but sometimes, ...just sometimes, it is. And that might almost erase those times when they defeated us by cheating.
Agreed!! Big Baller is a very intelligent man and is capable of clear communication (although you wouldn't think so by what he usually posts) and would be a greater asset to the community here if he would change his style of dialogue.
This is now a serious corporation that we're invested in and the atmosphere on the board should reflect that. Investment Bankers should be able to visit this board and find meaningful information.
After a somewhat adverse start, the old Draftsman on the new board has begun now to reflect an image that serious investors will appreciate when they arrive to decide whether they want to invest their money into this company. Clear information and some hints in the iBox that there will be firm leadership. But that board will just disappear as it’s erased by ADMIN on Monday. 400 posts over the weekend!! A tragic waste of momentum and it will have (again) caused confusion as it did when that new board was first created.
Big Baller is certainly capable of reflecting intelligent leadership on this board but his style is currently to act like a skateboard/surfer/stoner dude. And while that may be entertaining to many, it’s not the image of conventional wisdom and financial success. (Things those new investors will be expecting to find)
We are going to have a huge number of new visitors on Monday and continuing for the next weeks as this thing is launched. New investors want to find the facts clearly and quickly presented.
Thanks, JR. That makes so much sense to just stay put. The traffic will be greater and so much less confusion.
To tell you the truth, the mess that has been created in the new iBox over there makes me cringe. I opened up the new board early this morning and after a delay to load a sound file, ...sheep were bleating. SHEEP. Now of all the dumb things, …is that supposed to imply that we’re sheep, or that we're entering a board for investors who are like "sheep" or a company for "sheep," ...it was shockingly dumb, in my opinion.
Plus, of course everything is wrong. They rushed to throw it up and it's all wrong. We need people who know what they're doing and have a business-like mindset, not impetuous souls. I'm simply NOT impressed.
There is a lot of money at stake here and silly stunts don’t impress serious investors.
That's what I thought too. Why start over in building that kind of recognition?? It's like moving an established business without a good reason to do so.
The new board is filled with confusion. I'd rather return to this one but HOW (???) can that happen now? Who to persuade?
Now THAT's FUNNY !!
That must have been a stockmarket Sage because we've never heard such wisdom before.
What should we do??
Wow, never heard that before. You must be a stockmarket Sage.
What advice do you have for those who eat dust and will now have only 50% in their account on Monday?
Monday morning strategy to consider, goes like this:
There will be talk everywhere tonight and over the weekend about this merger. There will then be a LOT of people watching on Monday morning, wondering in those first few minutes if they should dive in. That's when the people on this board want to BUY at the ask !! (Even if it's small amounts)
If you ever in your life were willing to just immediately BUY AT THE ASK on the opening bell, this should be one of those times. We want this thing to begin to rise so that the bystanders will throw their money in to get aboard and we'll get this thing GOING UPWARD.
YES !! At 3:59, ...many buys @ .0002
The HOPE is to CLOSE @ .0002 or above.
Monday Morning the fun begins, but with a huge drop in the number of shares we own. I sure hope this works out well !!
Time to dump those virtual fish back into the virtual pond.
Tell ya what, ...I'd be willing to sell you 5m or so @ .0003 My shares that I bought at .0003 and then I could take your money and buy 7.5m of somebody elses' shares @ .0002 (then all mine would be at .0002)
That works for me.
Just let me know. If it sounds good to you, we'll do the deal.
I like a late Friday Press Release because as the story builds over the weekend, it gives investors all that time to anticipate the purchase that they want to make before the price goes up. Makes for a great opening on Monday.
The number of Registered Users will not change until the upgrade is complete.
They cannot allow changes to the database during the transition due to a high probability that the new data (users or music) will become lost.
That'll happen until there are no SELLERS at .0002
Easy now, ...we're acting like popcorn. Anxiety is not going to make it appear.
Relax a bit or there will be some depression expressed here if the news doesn't come within the next few hours.
The prognosticators have spoken. It will come.
:O)
It's THE NEWS of the MORNING, ...everywhere.
"AP - The Federal Reserve approved a half-percentage point cut in its discount rate on loans to banks Friday, a dramatic move designed to stabilize financial markets roiled by a widening credit crisis."
DOW on the RISE from the opening bell.
"AP - The Federal Reserve approved a half-percentage point cut in its discount rate on loans to banks Friday, a dramatic move designed to stabilize financial markets roiled by a widening credit crisis."
"European and Asian stocks slid again Friday amid persistent fears about subprime mortgage lending troubles in the U.S. and its potential affect on the global economy."
(London AP News)
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That's the news this morning about how the global markets performed while we in the USA were sleeping. That's not an optimistic picture for today's market performance.
Yesterday's DOW was somewhat encouraging. It fell but recovered in the end. One more day of holding above 12,500 would be a good sign.
"European and Asian stocks slid again Friday amid persistent fears about subprime mortgage lending troubles in the U.S. and its potential affect on the global economy."
(London AP News)
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That's the news this morning about how the global markets performed while we in the USA were sleeping. That's not an optimistic picture for today's market performance.
This would be a terrible time to release the TQWI news that we're looking for here. Releasing great news into a market where investors are afraid to place their bets would make for a dismal launch.
I'm willing to wait for the market to do it's upturn. Yesterday's DOW was encouraging. It fell but recovered in the end. One more day of holding above 12,500 would be a good sign and if the Friday close were to actually be up a single point, ...I'm hoping.
Michael is certainly not a careless flake of a guy who just woke up one day and decided to build a website for public attention.
He’s got lots of diversified experience and a big family full of smiles. The kind of guy you can get behind and support without fear that he's a "premeditated scam" type of guy.
That was all good reading during a quiet time like this.
Thanks, Fogg.
THANK YOU for an intelligent and factual response to this vicious attack.
But what are the chances that they will accept the truth when it contradicts their motive?
I want to tell you a story. The board isn't too active this morning so I think I'll tell you a little story and I'll try my best to make this as short as possible. I remember when you showed up on this board and asked something like, "Why am I here and why did I just buy into this stock?" Now that made me laugh.
I have daughters. Lots of them. One of them is a Belizean girl from a little village in Southern Belize, in her twenties, living with us on a Student VISA. She knows that I spend a lot of time at the computer screen playing with stocks but has no idea about the details of my trading except to know that recently I have mentioned at supper that TQWI is one pick that I have great confidence in.
This morning she told Michelle (my wife) and then told me about a dream she had last night. She said that I was sitting at the computer and she described the clothing that I was wearing. She said, "Mom was in the kitchen." Then she said that in her dream, I said out loud, "It's at one. Now it's at two. It's gone up to three. Now six. I'm going to cash out when it gets to twelve." When it reached twelve, I sold it all and as my wife was getting excited, I told her that we would hold the celebration for "tomorrow." (The next day.) Lisa then said, "The amount of money was still on the screen. It was $3,400,033."
Now the story of this dream and Lisa's enthusiasm over it was so vivid and I was impressed by the way she had described everything in such detail that I couldn't get it out of my mind. I went to my desk and entered into the calculator, 3.4 million and divided it by the number of shares that we own and pressed the button to calculate. I was shocked as the screen displayed .12
Twelve cents. The exact number that Lisa reported I had sold the shares for.
She has no idea how many shares we own. Michelle doesn't even know. There’s no way that she could have made this story up with those numbers. This was just too cool !! With the number of shares in our account, if we sold for $.12 it would be exactly 3.4 million dollars. Not a story that I can easily ignore today.
I'm not asking you to accept this as anything more than a story, but I'll tell you this: I'm setting the sell at .12 for TQWI. The Belizeans in Lisa's village have a history of doing this sort of thing and it being quite accurate.
The calculator doesn't lie, ...and that's all that I know for sure.
And he meant it yesterday!!
"Soon" to a person holding their breath under water indicates a shorter period of time than to a person sitting on the bench in the NFL.
It will be soon. It's inevitable, ...
That PR is prepared and ready to go, but with the US Stock Market in flux (downward), this would not be the best timing to release a terrific statement.
Right? or Wrong?
We want, as do the management of TQWI, the greatest impact from this upcoming release. Be patient, girl, it will come. Soon.
In reply to the Private Messages that I've received:
Some of you have become Bulletin Board Friends, and I treasure the heart and soul of a friend. But I will not mention any more than I already have, so don't ask. It's a matter of integrity. Just be content in reading what I have publicly posted.
And to those who seem interested in the legal aspect of this, there is no legal risk to me with any "knowledge" that I received since I've already bought all the shares that I'm going to own, ...and bought them months ago. I own plenty of shares and I'm very content in my investment here. Always have been and apparently, ...always will be.
:O)
I now think it has a good chance of becoming that "GEM" that you spoke of.
The final words to me last night concerning the future within Well Renewal was "Truth will prove itself out in the end."
I have a very good feeling about WRNW again. I had that feeling in the beginning (when I first invested) and have never wavered in my belief that the company is in the right place at the right time, with exceptionally qualified leadership in David Rees.
But to my continual amazement, many people are indeed like sheep and are easily lead astray. The few full-time Bashers on this board have made it difficult to know for sure that the PPS is one day soon going to rise to a position of prominence, or that the company would be allowed to realize it's potential. I'm a very strong-willed person with a goodly portion of lifetime experience, and although these deceitful fear-mongers never made me doubt the value of WRNW they did make me doubt whether the investment would become a gainer. Not because of WRNW, but because of THEM and their insidious work. So I’ll not criticize those who have run in fear that they might lose their investment, but I do feel sorry for them. They will one day be grieved over their decision.
I have been refreshed and restored and have renewed hope that the Well Renewal vision will become a full reality. It might have taken a little longer than David Rees originally planned and longer than the investors hoped, but ...
WRNW is moving towards Mr. Rees goal of building a great O&G Services Company and his M&A experience (as well as his legal experience) has WRNW moving in the right direction.
And THAT's the true word of the day for this board.
Please delete that last post (21474) so that it doesn't cause trouble on the board. And this one too.
WRNW has replied to me and requested that I NOT release the dates, ...a legal issue and it might simply become fodder for the bashers.
I received information today concerning the current projections of pertinent dates. I asked permission to share that information and will post it as soon as I hear that it is acceptable to do so.
Ben, the average investor in the PinkSheets seems to have the attention span of a 3-year-old child. It isn't possible for a CEO to please this crowd when there's nothing much happening. A small amount of information in a PR would only ignite a fire of anger and bashing over the limited information provided. Providing the right amount at the right time is a tough balancing act.
The bottom line is that to MANY of those here, the moment they have put money into something, they expect it to be going up in value almost immediately and if it's not, ...well somebody had better answer to them, NOW !!
There's no way to please that person until the pps is going up, regardless of what "information" is provided. (Either by the CEO or by the person delegated to perform that responsibility.)
That's the sound of wisdom and experience.
Wow, now that’s gettin’ down to business.
Superb content!!
Go get 'um Aussies!
Can you offer feedback to your source on that and further encourage them in that direction??
Easy to say when one has no experience in the hot seat. (Spoken respectfully.)
A CEO cannot respond to the child-like behavior of those who are throwing temper tantrums here and screaming because they want to be recognized and acknowledged by the CEO. There are times when silence is the appropriate response. The CEO was hired to do the job of corporate management; the members of the iHub were not.
Nowhere does the law require that the CEO of a public corporation be held hostage by private investors during normal business hours. There is a requirement for timely dissemination of pertinent information regarding the operation of the company and so forth, but today there are a growing number of people who seem to believe that they should have immediate and personal access to the CEO at any time simply because they have invested $350 USD into common stock.
Now THERE's an accurate example of Bull S***.
That last 40% could have meant anything from an attempt to make us believe that there was only a little ways yet to go, when they had barely begun, ...or it could have meant that they were working the bugs out of an otherwise completed upgrade. I felt that either was possible. Today it appears that the 40% was only the debugging of the new system and tying up loose ends.
Now we watch and wait, hoping for a terrific result. Anything less than instant (INSTANT) response at every page will at this point (to me) represent a failure in this upgrade. Because to handle the next phase of growth, (250k - 500k users) will require that at this 50k + mark the engine is only idling. If the system does begin to perform with instant response, within these next 48 hours, ...then we are GOOD TO GO !! (And Michael will deserve a round of applause, even though he was a bit late.)
Cy, the reason it took "only" 22 seconds is that it was 3:30 in the morning !! There were only a few people aboard at that time, sharing the system.
Don't get too excited until you can find another site anywhere on the Internet that also takes 22 seconds to load a screen and is a successful thriving Internet destination. 22 seconds is NOT a reason to rejoice.
The website will not get better in stages as some people have suggested. It will happen mostly in one single event. Or at least each particular new version of a "page" will be loaded in one event. The reason is that the online site is NOT being upgraded in live mode at all. It would be impossible to do while people are using it, and it wouldn't make any sense to take the website offline and work on it a little bit at a time.
Upgrades like this are done offline and in parallel to the actual operating module. Then when it's completely operable and declared to be bug-free, it is uploaded to the live and actual site just like a "restore" of your computer's software would be done. All at once, it should be operating like a brand new system. Until then the small improvements in performance that you see or experience are simply the fact that fewer people are USING the system. There are still people showing up and signing up, but the system is not much fun to use at this time.
Apparently they are beginning the upgrade today. That's great news, ...it's late in arriving.
I'm not Bashing, just realistic.
I have read and studied and am too dull or something I suppose, ...but cannot understand what your message means.
I have Matthew Henry to help me (if need be) for Joshua 1:8 but do not have any commentary for "Third time around is a charm."
JR, you said, "I have always said that if they close a deal, this will be a great play, but unfortunately I have been in too many where management failed to get anything done."
I've been almost dreading the hour when the first deal is closed and the attacks intensify. I don't know the details of the attack but it's inevitable. The Bashing that has occurred here always intensifies in opposition to any good news presented and is sooo predictable.
I have been proud to be an investor in WRNW but am often ashamed to be associated with people who act like a pack of dogs, as some of those who post here behave.
I've said before that I "Thank God" the corporations that I managed were NOT public; they were privately held corporations. It was hard enough to keep things running on-course for the sake of all the people who expected (and depended upon) the corporation to be healthy and prosperous, ...without the added burdens of dealing with ravenous "shareholders" who demand answers to questions that perhaps a CEO is not prepared to answer at that time. (Notwithstanding the burden of frequent interruptions.)
Getting things done requires continuity in planning, funding and timing. The interruptions that are orchestrated by some are in direct opposition to the chances of WRNW "getting things done."
That's a gutsy move to make, but probably a wise move. If the situation stays basically the same between now and next Tuesday, you'll have a terrific position in TQWI and the chances of it turning into a 300% increase are exceptionally good. Of course the chatter is for a run that goes much beyond that, however one of the most important secrets of success in this game is knowing when to sell. You don't get to keep the money until you sell.
You might consider an exit strategy whereby, as soon as the pps reaches a certain point, you sell enough to convert the numbers on your screen back into "real money" equal to your current 401k balance. Then if a sudden drop in 5 minutes time wipes out the big numbers on the screen (it happens) ...then you won't forever kick yourself.
‘Just a thought.
Your proposed contribution will certainly help the price rise due to the basic law of supply & demand, ...and for that, we the current investors, thank you in advance!!