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Has anyone heard from GLL lately??
She is present on Yahoo. I hope all is well with her and her family. The saying goes "Silence Is Golden". I miss my board buddies when they are not around.
Do you mean the ELECTRIC KOOL-AID??? That's what I'm talking about...
Thanks Sirius and Ouch for the excellent posts and commentary.
I am deeply concerned as stated before many times about the lack of news or PR from TKO. The do need to consider the share and stakeholders right to know what their investment is doing or not doing. I am also very concerned with the amount of debt on the prospectus not disclosed in financial statements. I hope I read that right. Maybe we should do a mass email from shareholders voicing our concerns??? Maybe I need some sleep instead?? good night...Zzzzzzzzzzzz
I get adds in the lower right hand corner 1/4 of page McGruff the crime fighting dog is there now. I feel better now that the mystery of the nonprospectus has been pointed out. I was getting feelings of panic. I guess I need some reassurance like an announcement tomorrow!!!
Maybee GLL can sooth my anxiety with a comment on the S-3. The amount of debt has me a little queasy $54,816,697 seems out of place here, maybe a misprint??
TKO S-3 Filing
I am still digesting this S-3 but did I read this correctly are there 5,206,998 shares of TKO total at time of filing? if so what happened to the other 8,693,002 shares?? Next point did I read the company losses as $54,816,697.00 correctly?? I was not aware of that figure it was never pointed out on any financial statements. I'm getting the willy's here. Maybe GLL will weigh in in the AM there with some clarification. We desparetly need an announcement here quickly.
Did you plug a laptop in and try it? I just wanted to find out how or if it worked. I assume the Quality in had TV powered by this technology. I don't know. Do you see what I was trying to find out? Customer satisfaction. I am still digesting SEC filling. Are they (TKO) just now publishing a prospectus??
I was always told that if a CFO suddenly resigns (and gives the old spend more time with family excuse) from a speculative company then sell, sell, sell and run the othery way and don't look back. I did just that and bought back in because I believe in the technology not the managment. Any thoughts??
I have 2 questions not related to this but still very important.
1. Who is the CFO?? Did TKO hire a new one or is RP CFO also?? This question has been asked a couple of times with no answers, but maybe not on this board.
2. Has anyone stayed at one of the hotels where i-wire is installed?? Did it work satisfactorily??
The new Colorado Quarter has them all beat!!!
Presentation in Burlingame California. I once knew Bob Burlingame who's namesake is the town. He and my uncle owned a giant Roof Tile(Mission Tile Roofs) manufacturing plant there. I got to be a foreman in that plant, my first job straight out of college. What a miserable job that took me to Texas, 6 degrees of seperation???
Reverse Mergers Lets hope the Comstock Coal investors are in the next world. Most estate executors probably don't have a clue about this. Maybe some deserving person will get rich!! I inheritated a file folder full of old dead stock certificates from my mother. Some are quite colorful and nice. I was going to frame them and do a whole wall thing. After reading about reverse mergers I should check out the old companies to see what happened. Any advice on how to research old company names to see if they are being used for something else?? Hell I could be a Zillionare and not even know it!!!
Sirius Thanks for the info and your hard work is appreciated in spades. I am still learning and had never heard of such a thing. I guess it was the termonology because alot of the scam stuff is known to me. That is why I tend to stay away from OB stocks. My family and I have lost a ton of money to penny stock scams in the energy/oil sector in the 1980's. Again THANKS!!!
Do You have a source for this?? I just can't comprehend the 20 year gap thing. Also Comstock Coal Company a reverse merger?? I think they just incorpoated as TKO as far as I know. I will do the research but first I need a SOURCE!!! please...
Thanks,
Chaoss
Continued; I hit enter while I was editing. The college class was in October of 1999, The article that I read in the Rocky Mtn News was in October of 2003. Thanks for the patience with my FU editing.
I have an Idea lets see if anyone is interested as a fun weekend subject before everything pops next week.
How did you first discover or find out about TKO?? Anybody who wishes to please reply.
I first discovered TKO when I read an article in the Rocky Mountain News Business section talking about an obscure company attempting to sell internet access on the electric grid. My mind did a double take because I remember having conversations about this during cigarette breaks in college TeleCom class. These guys were telcom pioneers from northern Wyoming who had invented Nextel's system. It was stolen from them. We marveled at the possibilities this would bring. Back to the article, a few weeks later I read about the same thing on MoneyCentral with some crude diagrams. I googled BPL and got several articles and I scrolled down and saw this link to an Analysts (I don't remember who but it was paid for by TKO)report on a company called Telkonet. It was so rosy and gave a Buy rating with a target price of $6.50 for December was it 03 or 04?? Its late and my mind isn't working right. I went to the Telkonet web site only 2 pages very crude. I decided this was a good speculation because I knew about the technology. I bought 317 shares @ 3.20 on 5/27/2004. I know because I looked it up on my scottrade history. I have been in and out ever since from $1.73 to $6.85 I. I have Lost and made money now I'm here to stay for a while. You have to sell to make money otherwise it's just paper.
More than me too I'm not a chart/technical guy. My eyes just glaze over when I look at that stuff. I had to read LAKINGSFAN post 3 times but I think I know what most of that stuff is...
Sorry I misinterpreted your post friend not neighbor. Anyway LUCKY YOU!!! I also like the History channel and all 4 Discovery channels and National Geographic channel, even the Military channel. AaaHaa cable thanks...
Sirius it sounds like you had a very interesting neighbor. Lucky You!!! I have just always been a science nut. Everything interests me In college I studied everything from Astronomy to Biology to Geology. I wasted so much time but got a well rounded education with 3 degrees in Biology, Geology, Computer Programming/Business. I seem to thrive when I get to talk to someone interesting. I problably would have been a super pest(always over there) if I had a neighbor like that!!!
You Know You Are Living In 2006 When:
1. You accidentally enter your password on the microwave.
2. You haven't played solitaire with real cards in years.
3. You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family of 3.
4. You e-mail the person who works at the desk next to you.
5. Your reason for not staying in touch with friends and family is that they don't have e-mail addresses.
6. You pull up in your own driveway and use your cell phone to see if anyone is home to help you carry in the groceries.
7. Every commercial on television has a web site at the bottom of the screen.
8. Leaving the house without your cell phone, which you didn't have the first 20 or 30 (or 60) years of your life, is now a cause for panic and you turn around to go and get it.
10. You get up in the morning and go online before getting your coffee.
11. You're reading this and nodding and laughing.
13. Even worse, you know exactly to whom you are going to forward this message.
14. You are too busy to notice there was no #9 on this list.
15. You actually scrolled back up to check that there wasn't a #9 on this list.
Sirius you still have to admit the idea is intriguing. The Germans were experimenting with using the Ground Wave (an ultra low frequency, the very lowest runs underground all the time) as a carrier wave at one time. I think there were some problems they had to overcome? I haven't kept up with all that stuff. I'm not a Physicist. We do enjoy the same TV viewing channels. I am also a big Animal Planet fan. The World Lost Steve Irwin a few weeks ago. I and mankind will truly miss him. Only the good die young...
Eagle Contract GLL posted this a few days ago I think.
I will see what I can find out no guarantees about any sucess since everything is kind of cloaked in secrecy...good night
How Interesting I am still having trouble putting the 2 together though. Fiber and BPL how do they mix sounds like opposites to me. Have you ever heard of talk to use the earths magnetic field as a carrier wave for internet protocol? Its been a few years since I learned about that(at a university telecom course) about the same time as BPL in 1999 both were just theory then.
That was great Sirius, LOL X 10. I have actually been to that chili cookoff in San Antonio. I lived 30 miles south of there in a little town called Poteet. Have you ever had chili pequines. A little round green pepper about 1/2" diameter grows wild down there. The hottest goddamned thing I have ever tasted. Goes down with a juniper mint kind of taste and then the burn starts in a delayed reaction. Talk about farting fire. You are sure wishing for the ice cream to come out the next morning. Just a little Texas talk. BTW New Mexico has the hottest chili in my opinion for what its worth.
Level 3 and TKO how do they fit?
I don't see how Level3 and TKO fit together. As a LVLT stockholder I know that they are all about fiber networks. There seems to be a shortage of fiber bandwidth now. They have the largest remaning bundle of dark fiber(not lit up or activated). They were a subsidiary of Morrison Knudsen a very large construction company out of Omaha, NE. I don't know what happened to all of the fiber networks that a million different companies were constructing in the 1990's? They seem to have disappeared when these companies went bankrupt. What ever happened to QWEST's worldwide network? It seems that no one knows. QWEST built their networks on Rail Road right of ways world wide, even under the oceans?? I have a suspicion that these networks never existed only on paper and in executives minds to fleece the stockholders. Thats enuf speculation for now I just don't see how the two fit together? I guess we will find out in a couple of weeks when all of the pieces come together...
Hey everyone Knobby got censored on Yahoo board. Check it out YUK YUK YUK...
Me Too Help Enlighten Us Neophites
Fibonacci Numbers??
Have you ever done a Google search on Fibonacci numbers? I have when I was trying to learn. A very obscure math formula of repeating sets of numbers. I never understood just became more confused...Brain Farts I don't know...
Such as: Pretty Please
New Find I hope??
Does any of this look familiar??
Link: http://www.bpltoday.com/public/848.cfm
Link mentioned in aricle: http://www.utility.net/
Body: http://www.bpltoday.com
Utility.net's BPL plan could change everything overnight
September 26, 2006
Using IBEC's strategy for rural success to win very big IOUs
CEO was executive at KeySpan, Verizon, Fortune's #16 firm
A number of the nation's largest utilities -- IOUs on both US coasts and in between -- are in "detailed discussions" with a new network integrator/operator called Utility.net about deploying BPL.
The new firm's business plan turns assumptions about the broadband business upside down.
The technology it's using could spark the BPL revolution that's been predicted in earnest for over a decade.
Sounds like just the latest BPL hype?
Read on.
The names of the utilities and details of the deals are under wraps for now -- but here's a few reasons Utility.net may be on the verge of changing the BPL industry for good:
The firm modeled its approach for IOUs on -- and is partly owned by -- the only BPL venture that's signing up utilities (co-ops) left and right -- IBEC;
The plan includes making profits by serving retail broadband to un-served and underserved power utility customers first -- making regulators, local authorities and investors happy;
Utility.net's business plan uses the landlord and carrier's carrier models making it utility- and consumer-friendly;
It creates an affordable network technology for "smart grid" applications in the most remote stretches of the grid, and
The whole thing works thanks to some clever inventions at IBEC plus air-tight licensing deals the firm has locked up tight.
BPL Today's been reporting success at IBEC for some time now.
The firm's business model pivots on serving the hardest-to-reach customers, rural consumers that other firms said were impossible to make money from.
If IBEC could deliver on promised bandwidth to those customers they'd be eager to mail in their checks for $30 or $40 or more each month.
IBEC made this plan work with the first RUS loan for BPL -- US$19 million for four co-ops (BT, 8/29/05), a follow-up application for $50 million for 13 co-ops and reports of dozens more waiting to sign up.
The plan worked.
The utilities are happy. The customers are happy. Regulators are happy and IBEC's happy.
Results like that are too good to ignore.
Utility.net's founders saw the brilliance at IBEC:
Unique, patented coupler design using electrical impedance matching for a clean signal;
The ingenious idea of putting the coupler inside a piece of common grid gear that every line worker knows how to install;
A nimble approach to finding the fastest and most affordable BPL gear without committing to any one vendor, and
A startling, digital-divide-crossing business plan that wins by accomplishing what the entire broadband industry said from day one was impossible -- making a profit by serving rural customers.
The founders of Utility.net made a deal with IBEC reportedly about a year ago -- divvying up the US utility market.
IBEC keeps its target market -- co-ops and small munis.
Utility.net gets the rest including the very biggest IOUs -- and the IOUs are reportedly intrigued.
Meet Utility.net
The new firm is a utility network integrator/operator and wholesale broadband bandwidth provider or carrier's carrier with headquarters in Los Angeles (www.utility.net).
It's existence, executive team, business plan and partnerships were announced at a reception the firm hosted last Monday night at the UPLC's annual BPL conference in Charlotte, NC.
Utility.net CEO Cheryl Smith made the announcement.
"We feel passionate about the fact that this is for the first time the right time with the right technology to serve not only the public but also the utilities," she told us in an exclusive interview Thursday.
Investors are realizing this, too, she added.
"In the past, the investors had a real problem with [BPL] because they could not see the business value proposition.
"There has to be a major revenue generation component to this.
"Offering broadband capabilities where there is no broadband today is a really good value proposition."
Her skills converged
Smith started out as a computer programmer and became a vice president at Verizon.
She was hired as CIO at huge Northeastern US gas and power utility KeySpan Energy in the mid `90s when KeySpan was buying up utilities.
Her job was to get the various systems at these firms to work with KeySpan's systems.
The utility was -- and is "keen," on advanced technology, said Smith.
Thus it created KeySpan Technology -- a wholly-owned R&D subsidiary that was given millions of dollars annually to study new energy-specific technology ventures.
Smith was president and chairman of the board from 1998 to 2002.
She figured BPL wouldn't be viable until it met four criteria and while she was at KeySpan it didn't.
Smith was hired as CIO at McKesson -- a US pharmaceutical shipping firm ranked at 14 on the Fortune 500 at the time (it's #16 now).
The firm at the time shipped US$300 million worth of drugs each night to hospitals and pharmacies in the Americas -- and that requires lots of IT, Smith explained.
McKesson has online, real-time systems and networks that pick up those orders and guarantee 24 hour delivery, she added.
Utility.net was born
A Los Angeles "early stage" venture capital firm called Mandeville Partners looked at IBEC and believed the firm's strategy would work at IOUs, Smith reported.
Mandeville specializes in telecom ventures especially in the cable TV world.
The firm teamed with IBEC, gained the sole rights and licenses to use IBEC's technology at IOUs and created Utility.net.
The latter is now owned jointly by IBEC, Mandeville and the Utility.net management team, said Smith.
For BPL to appeal to IOUs, the next generation of technology was needed and it wasn't ready so Utility.net went into a holding pattern.
Once IBEC started deploying G2 BPL gear at co-ops, IBEC CEO Scott Lee called Mandeville and said he believed it was time.
That was about six months ago.
Mandeville had been working with a number of attorneys on other venture projects and over dinner one night explained Utility.net to them.
One of the attorneys had been on KeySpan Technology's board when Smith was president and recommended her as CEO.
Mandeville called Smith, told her they believed her four criteria were met and that they needed a "top notch corporate management team."
Smith looked, saw that the triggers were met and quit her job at McKesson.
Four boxes checked
Smith's first trigger was that BPL had to work without impairing the grid's ability to deliver power or otherwise run.
That includes avoiding the need to shut off power for installation, Smith told us.
And it means connecting safely between MV and LV lines.
Those problems are fixed.
Second -- BPL needed enough bandwidth to handle utility applications plus retail broadband for consumers.
BPL chips were at 14 mbps when Smith wrote her criteria.
IP networks can consume almost half of a chipset's bandwidth.
Splitting the remainder between utility applications and multiple consumers didn't deliver enough.
Then DS2 created the 200 mbps chipset.
Smith's third criterion was avoiding interference with emergency and amateur radio services -- thus the invention of successful notching was vital, Smith reported.
Notching had to be by remote control.
"You can't deploy it on a mass basis if you have to become manually involved in any of it," noted Smith.
Smith's fourth criterion was distance -- the ability to send a signal far enough from the backhaul insertion point to limit deployment costs.
It's the regenerators
Many people in the BPL world incorrectly use the word repeater when they mean regenerator.
We've done it -- but we'll be clear from here out -- especially since the difference is so groundbreaking.
A repeater re-amplifies the radio signal -- and any noise the signal has picked up.
Thus the signal after moving through a few repeaters can degrade completely.
A regenerator decodes the signal, separating the noise from the message, recodes and retransmits it down the lines.
Thus it was the evolution of BPL repeaters into regenerators that put BPL over Smith's fourth and maybe toughest hurdle.
Regenerators do add some latency to the message -- a slight delay -- and over multiple regenerations that delay can add up.
Latency itself can be a problem for VOIP calls and video, for example, and that's one reason modern BPL chipsets use QoS to prioritize packets carrying voice or video data.
The real challenges in affordably sending signals down long stretches of power line caused many to question whether it will ever happen.
The idea is to "truly reuse the grid" and thus save costs by using infrastructure that's being maintained and supported for a use other than BPL, Smith reminded.
That value is lost if BPL can't send the signal far enough to limit the need for backhaul injection or "infusion" points.
IBEC has a customer 13 miles from an injection point, we've reported, that gets the same service as those one mile down the line (BT, 6/20/05).
Coupler/arrestor is key
"It's the coupler that's the big, new advantage here," Smith reported.
And not just the quality of IBEC's couplers.
IBEC engineers found that electrical impedance-matching in BPL couplers can boost the broadband signal a lot, we reported in February (BT, 2/27).
The firm has several patents pending and licensed a related patent from another entity, we quoted IBEC CEO Scott Lee at the time.
But "the big advantage" cited by IOUs in talks with Utility.net "is the fact that their coupler is actually built into a surge suppressor," said Smith.
IBEC teamed with Cooper Power Systems of Waukesha, Wisc, to put its couplers inside Cooper surge arrestors (BT, 2/27).
That's "already a part of any grid.
"It's a component that electrical contractors are used to working with," she added.
And IOUs in talks with Utility.net realize signing up for the firm's BPL would cut back by about 1/3 on their spending for arrestors on their grid.
That grid-friendly design is "brilliant on IBEC's part."
"The arrestors are an integral part of why I said 'yes' to this entire business proposition," reported Smith.
Cooper's arrestors are certified, well-tested and trusted by utilities that face lots of pressures from environmental and reliability interests.
In Utility.net's first talks with big IOUs the utilities warned of strict limits on installation responsibilities for any entity wanting access to the grid including strict certification requirements for contractors.
Utility.net has a deal with a national and well respected electrical contractor, Smith assured, but after some test deployments with the Cooper-enabled couplers the mood changed at several IOUs.
"'It wouldn't take us more than a couple hours of training to get your entire configuration up,'" she quoted one IOU, "'maybe we will do that for you.'"
She's been the buyer
For most of her career, Smith has been shopping for technology for big firms including KeySpan Energy.
"When I started looking at BPL technology I realized the drivers that are going to make a difference to the big IOUs."
It's a combination of services and guarantees.
"We truly are not an equipment provider. We do not sell the equipment."
IBEC's been installing Corinex gear and most recently Kaicom systems -- but isn't committed to any brand or chipset, we've been told.
"We are a full-service BPL system provider," Smith reported.
QUOTE OF THE WEEK: The IOUs that are looking to reuse their grid [by adding BPL] are very comfortable with the kinds of forethought IBEC has put into these patents and licenses. That was really important to me because I knew that if I was going out there and selling it to my peers -- because I worked with most of these guys over the years & it better be something I can look them right in the eye and say, 'this is going to solve your political problems and your technical problems. It's going to be a plus and not a minus. It will truly be cost-free, risk-free to you.
Cheryl Smith, CEO of Utility.net
What to expect
Utility.net uses a three-step process to show its BPL to an IOU, said Smith.
Each utility grid is complicated and different from the rest, she added.
Thus the first step is to install a trial at the utility's test lab or training facility to "certify" that the gear will work.
The second step is to deploy a trial at a substation or two or three and prove the service is as good at the end of the line as Utility.net says it will be.
That step gives the new firm a chance to show its installation procedures and attractive install time.
And it shows that existing utility applications including SCADA and AMR aren't disrupted by the BPL.
The third step is to devise a plan on where to deploy first -- looking for the underserved and thinking about what utility applications might be best to deploy first, Smith explained.
Smith has connections
Contacts she's made throughout her career are coming into play now with Utility.net.
"I spent billions and billions of dollars in the IT world over the years for my large corporations."
For NOC services, Utility.net hired the Houston firm Smith used while at KeySpan called Diverse Networks.
It was founded by a group of ex-Metricom executives with experience running large scale networks such as Palm.net and OmniSky, said Smith.
Smith believes Diverse Networks and Utility.net's other big contractors might not normally take on a start-up "but we have long term relationships. We know them. They know us."
Diverse Networks has software in place to monitor Utility.net networks nationwide at all seven network layers including the BPL-specific data.
Every IOU is different as is every interface, Smith reported.
Utility.net is working with its potential clients to ensure the NOC "will electronically interface with their systems to give them the notifications and to give them what they need and want."
Smith hired "probably one of the top telecom guys in the world," Daniel Crespo-Dubie to ensure good connections between the NOC and utility customers.
He's Utility.net's vice president for network and technology operations and responsible for all network architectures and all telecom and call center operations.
Crespo-Dubie led the operation of mission critical telecom systems required to run uninterrupted and that played a critical role at a large utility in NYC, said Utility.net.
In the days immediately after 9/11 his call center and telecom system and networks were used by the NYC emergency response groups.
Utilities need retail
Power firms have to create "multiple business cases for applications that don't yet exist and that's a really difficult thing to do," said Smith.
"But if it's going to be funded by a retail broadband play then it's cost-free/risk-free to the utility and then the utility applications that are unique to having a broadband system and equipment on their lines becomes really cost effective and very valuable to the utility."
But is it really risk free, we asked.
What if the retail broadband half of the team fails to make a buck?
That's where the business model and technology used by IBEC and Utility.net makes the difference, Smith answered.
Broadband insertion points are the costliest part of a deployment.
IBEC's technology needs one insertion point at each substation and the signal "travels the distance because it uses regenerators."
Our preliminary research didn't show what technology firms may be using regeneration or repeaters.
"IBEC and Utility.net use unique coupler technology and regenerators that are designed specifically for serving rural markets where customer density is low," reported the UPLC in its BPL 2006 report released last week (www.utc.org/?p=33398).
We don't find any other BPL firms talking about the difference.
IBEC ignored the broadband business model used by cable and DSL incumbents and found a way to serve the very people those firms left out.
The firm went straight to the least densely populated areas.
Utility.net believes IOUs should do the same.
The new firm is "in detailed partnership discussions with a number of the largest power companies in the US," Smith told the press last week.
A new way of thinking
"Our business proposition is, 'OK IOUs, let's do the market research and find where there are no broadband providers in your territory or only one,'" said Smith.
"We know we're going to go through cities, but let's assume we're not going to pick up very many customers in a city because they have huge choices."
The math is compelling.
Co-ops offering IBEC's BPL find their members don't mind spending US$29.95/month for 256 kbps symmetrical service.
Utility.net's first tier is 768 kbps.
The next two are 1.5 mbps and 3 mbps.
That said, higher bit-rates are possible by adding injection points but the cost would be looked at on a case-by-case basis and need to be justified.
Utility.net's Chief Technology Officer Michael Keselman is doing R&D to boost bandwidth by cutting the overhead bandwidth used by the network, Smith reported.
He's working to create products and services that take advantage of unique BPL capabilities such as in-home/in-business gateways, customer portals and clearinghouses, said Smith.
Keselman's been responsible for all aspects -- engineering, planning, implementation, contract administration/compliance, security and operations -- of global video, voice and data networks.
Build-outs will no doubt cover urban and suburban areas but the plan doesn't hinge on winning in competition with the incumbents.
Utility.net expects to get higher take rates in rural areas where it's the only -- or almost only broadband option.
"We are guaranteeing to the utilities that we will be cost effective& we'll have multiple choices for ISP" including VOIP providers.
"Our business case says this is going to be paid for by people who want broadband and don't have access to it today or have very limited access," said Smith.
Investors like it
"You have got to have a business value proposition that you can take to an investor that shows where your revenue stream is going to come from.
"It can't come 100% from the utility because then the only investor you can have is the utility."
Thus far that's left most IOUs cold to BPL.
Some pioneering IOUs famously have a vision of BPL's long-term value and have pushed ahead with deployments.
Those firms are well known to BPL Today readers and can be counted on one hand -- TXU, CenterPoint and Duke.
Others such as Consumers Energy and Duquesne Light are in the game with minor but at least commercial deployments.
No booth in the hall
Utility.net didn't have a booth in the demo hall at the UPLC event.
Neither did IBEC.
Before the Utility.net story broke one might have guessed IBEC was too successful signing up co-ops to need a booth.
Now we know its likely going to have its hands full serving co-ops and helping it's new partner deliver at IOUs.
EDITOR'S NOTE: Our coverage of the UPLC event continues next week.
© 2006-2007 BPL Today All Rights Reserved. Reproduction without permission prohibited.
AAH!! HAA!! all of the moving parts are starting to come together. I just hope that TKO has someone sharp enough to keep this oiled and greased to keep all the parts moving together. I haven't seen anyone surface yet who is capable?? Has any one seen a greasy mechanic or more appropriate a greasy engineer/business whiz...anyone??
Gigabeam line of sight WIFI products...
I haven't said anything about GGBM's product yet but I remember they tried to use that technology in downtown Denver instead of pulling fiber under the streets. I seem to remember that there were problems with the whole line of sight technology. It was several years ago and I assume they got those kinks worked out. Does anyone know anything about this?
TKO News Should Be More Forthcoming to Stockholders.
Christine in response to post #626 I agree 100% TKO has a fiduciary responsibility to its stockholders. That means monitary and I want to say moral(maybe the wrong word) responsibility to its SHAREHOLDERS and STAKEHOLDERS(that means anyone with an interest IE: the general public, contractors, potential contractors, real estate owners, and anyone who might have an interest or potential interest to TKO, its partners,employees, and shareholders the list goes on and on) to keep them informed of progress. Maybe someone should send a copy of Christine's post to the proper person at TKO!!! Just my thoughts on this. I have written before asking why TKO is not more forthcoming with information? Like Christine said TKO pays a lot of money for these IR and PR releases. I mean Warren Communication News??? Who would ever look there? Who is their target audience? I saw an article posted by SIRIUS #653(Thank You)from REUTERS WOW!!! It's about time some TKO news was on a major service. Thats what they are paying these rascals for. There must be a reason for the secrecy. maybe to gear up without calling too much attention to themselves. I don't know I'm rambling just some food for thought and they should pay for some of the fine research don on this board...MassChaoss
Sorry I didn't see your other post. Please disreguard my previous post };-')
Was it wrecked or still whole or parted out into pieces? I hope in origional condition for your sake.
I know it was intended to be humor. Sometimes I stay up too late and I get dingy@$% };-')
Thank You
Only 6.25!!!
Any ideas about how to invest sideways in TKO? Utilities, ISP's, Manufactures, Chip makers etc...
How do I find it?? Internet address??