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The good Dr. B knows what
1. his sister did.
2. 6,000 animals sacrificed with NO toxicity.
3. Cides were shipped to England.
4. cides for FLU were shipped to BASi. enough to start the protocol testing. With a plan to keep enough cides at BASi to complete the testing on schedule. (FDA is a major deterrent with and agnostic inert to human cells that have shown no toxicity in animals.)
5. Ebola is a major world health problem. NNVC has a plan to test multiple cides against Ebola, Then pick the best to make a cure. Dr. S is off to secure manufacturing of cides, or procure the product to make the cides. His response was not clear as to which he was chasing.
6. He is in a position to JUDGE from a life long scientific background the capabilities of NNVC.
I could go on but if you don't understand by this time you probably don't want a cure for viruses and hope NNVC fails. Even if NNVC fails I will know I tried to help with what the world needs, a cure for most of the viruses that kill and maims people!
The good Dr. B knows what
1. his sister did.
2. 6,000 animals sacrificed with NO toxicity.
3. Cides were shipped to England.
4. cides for FLU were shipped to BASi. enough to start the protocol testing. With a plan to keep enough cides at BASi to complete the testing on schedule. (FDA is a major deterrent with and agnostic inert to human cells that have shown no toxicity in animals.)
5. Ebola is a major world health problem. NNVC has a plan to test multiple cides against Ebola, Then pick the best to make a cure. Dr. S is off to secure manufacturing of cides, or procure the product to make the cides. His response was not clear as to which he was chasing.
6. He is in a position to JUDGE from a life long scientific background the capabilities of NNVC.
I could go on but if you don't understand by this time you probably don't want a cure for viruses and hope NNVC fails. Even if NNVC fails I will know I tried to help with what the world needs, a cure for most of the viruses that kill and maims people!
BK, Glad you posted this exchange.
Kind of like the roulette wheel after all bets are down. waiting for Mondays or Tuesdays PR.
Such low volume today,114k with 2 hrs left.
Hard to believe a $.07 spread at these levels.But it LOOKS many re pick up those shares a hundred at a time.
Thanks Ch IV Your efforts are a great addition.
Testing EB2
Facts
1. NNVC’s cides are agnostic.
2. 6,000 animals tested and no toxicity found.
3. Ebolacide1 had some efficacy, just not enough.
4. More information about the virus is now known.
5. The Ebola outbreak is growing and killing people.
NNVC is developing and producing multiple candidates for dismantling the virus particles. These candidates will be tested in a BSL-4 lab. The protocol that will be used has not been disseminated. As a layman and thinker I have a suggestion as how to test the efficacy of the new EB2 candidates.
1. Drawer blood from a corps to use as a sample.
2. Drawer blood from a brother or sister who is a blood type match.
3. Fly both samples to a BSL-4 lab.
4. Check both samples to ensure one is clean and the infected sample shows the virus.
5. Use as many tubes of infected samples as you have candidates.
6. Also use a clean sample with a cide for comparison. One for each candidate.
7. Agitate them to allow the cide candidate cides to mate with the virus.
8. Check each sample and compare to the original.
9. Report the results!!
Now if one works well make a batch and try it in infected patients with informed consent.
From a person who wants the outbreak to stop!
Thanks for your reply. Your don't understand the structure of this company, IMHO. Dr. Diwan is the Lab guy. Everything to do with the technology is his baby.
Dr. Seymour is the office guy, spoksman, and face of NNVC.
This company is so close to getting THERE.
My bet is with NNVC. Good luck with you bet, but be ready to switch. 6,000 sacrificed animals!
Where will you get the shares. NNVC carries a HARD TO BORROW TAG.
what happen to posts 102088 to 92?
I was watching and posted at 1:01. the BOC 18k+ was a late ticker posting but got into the days biz.
One cent either way makes no difference. The fact that we are not down with the market going crazy is a good sign.
Monday or Tuesday is/are the PR days for NNVC.
Today was another day with NO BAD NEWS.
as I predicted we closed green. Someone lots of them know something.
Let's get things in the right order!
People first. Cure Ebola to show the world the NNVC backbone and tech works. That despite ~400 mutations Dr. Diwan can adapt the technology to produce a virus killer.
Then the flu. then so many more virus cures.
Dow is down big time now. 321 a bounce of about ~100 points .
NNVC is 3.548. Still holding recent gains.
Looking at the day, dow way down, NNVC holding recent gains, probably will end up green.
This board became a desert this am. a Love fest and a few bashes, not much meat.
That said, No news is good news in Biotech.
Hot straight and normal. NNVC isgoing in the right direction.
If you read the previous post about a 70% death rate would you help me speculate on this.
Since there are/were 400 mutations of Ebola,
With NNVC submitting multiple cides to the testing agency,
What % of improvement in
1. prolonged life would it take to show that the cide is working? I don't know if this is a number that is a known fact.
2. What decrease in the death % would it take to make it a worthwhile product?
3. A different way to answer this would be how many or % of those treated and survived?
a. If there is a clear gain in conquering Ebola would you support an Ebola cide 3.
b. Should the company make and sell Ebola cide 2 while making working on Ebolacide3?
Your answers would be of interest to me and many others. IMHO
WHO: Ebola death rate increases to 70 percent
The number of cases in the Ebola outbreak has risen to nearly 9,000, with the number of dead climbing to nearly 4,500, as the World Health Organization (WHO) warned Tuesday that there could be up to 10,000 new cases a week in two months.
For the last four weeks, there's been about 1,000 new cases per week - including suspected, confirmed and probable cases, WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward said, adding that the U.N. health agency is aiming to get 70 percent of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak.
WHO increased its Ebola death toll tally to 4,447 people on Tuesday, nearly all of them in West Africa, from 8,914 cases. The death rate has risen to 70 percent— previously the WHO estimated the death rate at around 50 percent.
NNVC does not make a vaccine, so need to worry about that. I haven't gotten a flu shot in 50 years. And I haven't gotten the flu either.
from a great poster in a reply to thid post.
My guess is,.... what it sounds like depends upon one's vantage point. From 'inside' the shorting community my guess is it sounds like a train bearing down on them. From 'outside' it'll sound more like the piggies.
GENEVA – The number of cases in the Ebola outbreak has risen to nearly 9,000, with the number of dead climbing to nearly 4,500, as the World Health Organization (WHO) warned Tuesday that there could be up to 10,000 new cases a week in two months.
For the last four weeks, there's been about 1,000 new cases per week - including suspected, confirmed and probable cases, WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward said, adding that the U.N. health agency is aiming to get 70 percent of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak.
WHO increased its Ebola death toll tally to 4,447 people on Tuesday, nearly all of them in West Africa, from 8,914 cases. The death rate has risen to 70 percent— previously the WHO estimated the death rate at around 50 percent.
Aylward said the 70 percent death rate was "a high mortality disease" in any circumstance and that the U.N. health agency was still focused on trying to get sick people isolated and provide treatment as early as possible.
Yep it is!, How did this ever get into the twos. Must have been short sellers and other nay sellers
does a short squeeze make a noise like a train coming or a pig squealing?
will this area be limit up for each day until the next PR?
3.74099real time with 135k shares afte 1 hr 9 min. a good start.
we have more data to date.
THE CIDE DID WORK AGAINST EBOLA. it did not just work completely. It extended life. So there was some efficacy! The time from then until now was used to find out more about EBOLA. We know about the decoys. DR. Diwan has stated he has made "candidates" to be tested. This tells he is human. This virus is very tough and has no cure yet. But, he is willing to say he has multiple cides that need to be tested. Remember,
IT IS THE BODY's JOB TO RID ITSELF OF THE VIRUS. Our cide works along side of the cide. We infuse a finite amount of virus killers and unless a second or third dose is administrated the cide is spent. The body keeps making antibodies to kill the virus. The virus keeps multiplying until either the it is eliminated or death and disposal occurs.
The best candidate, if not perfect will tell Dr. Diwan what direction to further tweak the cide. IMHO
Least we forget, NNVC will move to cure other virus when the company has proven their backbone works.
DETROIT – A 21-month-old girl is the first person in Michigan to die from the virus that has caused severe respiratory illness across the country, state health officials said Saturday.
Madeline Reid died Friday afternoon from enterovirus D68, according to Children's Hospital of Michigan in Detroit. Its chief medical officer, Dr. Rudolph Valentini, said in a statement that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed the illness after the Clinton Township girl's arrival, but did not specify which day she arrived.
dRkaz, THE CIDE DID WORK AGAINST EBOLA. it did not just work completely. It extended life. So there was some efficacy! The time from then until now was used to find out more about EBOLA. We know about the decoys. DR. Diwan has stated he has made "candidates" to be tested. This tells he is human. This virus is very tough and has no cure yet. But, he is willing to say he has multiple cides that need to be tested. Remember,
IT IS THE BODY's JOB TO RID ITSELF OF THE VIRUS. Our cide works along side of the cide. We infuse a finite amount of virus killers and unless a second or third dose is administrated the cide is spent. The body keeps making antibodies to kill the virus. The virus keeps multiplying until either the it is eliminated or death and disposal occurs.
The best candidate, if not perfect will tell Dr. Diwan what direction to further tweak the cide. IMHO
But did you say a prayer the cides work?
I have been on vacation since 10/1. Catching up here now. But the number 1 things about what NNVC is doing vs this board is we are noise. The work finding and producing a cide is what Dr. Diwan is doing. Is here being well paid, yep! And if the cides work who can say he does not deserve the money.
Every one who reads this board should be down on their knees beging God that the work is fruitful.
No News is good news:
Day -2. This is the day NNVC shipped 200g to BASi. So today’s news was good news. This will be a reversal of the theme that we will be following for the next few weeks.
Day 0. A no News day! This is an assumption that the drug was received by the Lab. How many animals are going to be used in the trials? Was the drug deliverer on time? Who was the courier?
Day 1. Another “No News Is Good News Day”. How many and what species of animals are going to get an infusion today? Because of the importance of this trial let me assume this is the first day an animal or animals were treated? These are, I assume, healthy animals that are the guinea pigs for Flucide. This will be the real first day of testing Flucide. The vitals are taken as a baseline.
Day 2. The cides have been working for 24 hours now. In case you’re a new reader of NNVC the Nanoviruscides start working the second they are infused into the blood stream. The agnostic particles begin searching out cides when mixed with the patient’s blood. When the infusion is completed the circulation system has mixed the cides fairly equally throughout a body. Any virus organism that contacts the cide in the proper manner is enveloped and the disassembly begins. This organism is no longer a threat to the rest of the body as each union of cide and virus organism reduces the viral load. The system will eliminate the spent cide and disassembled virus organism thru the kidneys.
Information on the mechanism of action has not been disseminated in the materials I have read. Is there heat released when the coupling and disassembling happens? If so there will be a rise in body temperature commiserate with the amount of action caused by the cide’s successful action. Since this is a toxicity determining trial, assuming healthy subjects without any viruses circulating in their blood stream, we can assume that the temperature of the subjects will remain unchanged.
Writers note: When the cide is infused into an infected blood stream the body will already have had a temperature increase. Will the cide’s action increase the blood temperature? If so how much? If the temperature is at a critical level already then the rate of infusion needs to be carefully planned. The body is hard at work trying to make and rid itself of the virus. The cide is only an aid to the naturally occurring disease fighting mechanism of the body. As the cide particles are infused and reduce the viral load the body’s temperature may not be reduced immediately because the body is working hard to overcome the viral load. Depending on the disease’s progression this make take a while. I dislike such inexact terms like “awhile”. Does this mean 1 day or several hours? ( I am on vacation, more to follow in the next few days, stay tuned!)
Warning Label: This only applies if you’re admitted to the hospital. The facts and figures may not be totally accurate, or completely false. Do your own due diligence! NNVC could be dangerous to your life. Having been tried on ~6,000 animals and shown to have no toxicity, and having incredible efficacy in animal trials (1,000 times more effective than Tamiflu, an FDA approved drug) the FDA might require NNVC to attach a warning label to the vials of the cides.
You may not get well by using this product! Your body has a better than 50% chance of preventing your death without taking the nanocide. You’re in this hospital because your body alone is not defeating this disease. The great care you are receiving from your doctors and nurses may not prevent the disease from killing you. If you body cannot diagnose and manufacture sufficient antibodies to overcome the virus fast enough you may die or have permeate damage to one or more organs. Even if you take this product you may still die. If you do die may we suggest that you allow your body to be donated and used to determine if the virus killed you or was it a result of NNVC’s product. To date no toxicity has been found in any of the lab tests, but we are still checking. NNVC claims the cide is agnostic to your system (this means the cide does not interact with any of the cells in your body, it simply floats around looking for virus organisms to join with. After they join the virus is disassembled and cannot do any more damage to your body. Both the disassembled virus and Nanoviruscide are then eliminated naturally. It will circulate in your blood stream until it is naturally eliminated by your kidneys, around 28 days post infusion. If you still among the living you may be asked to return to the doctor’s office and allow some additional testing. These tests may help future persons who become infected by the virus.
our forefathers (most of us anyway)were poor! What did it take for them to go from Poor to a country with a middle class? Hard work, putting everything on the line, like a 20% mortality rate to move to another world!
Where is my misunderstanding, Please?
Shipped 200 mg.
need 2.5 kg.
need 12.5 more batches for complete testing.
how long does it take to make one 200 mg batch? 2 weeks? Or?
Will we ship every 2 weeks?
Why not DIVIDE AND CONQUER? INSTEAD OF GOING IN MICO STEPs, JUMP TO THE MIDDLE AND IF THAT WORK, JUMP TO THE MIDDLE AFAIN (now 75% of the way home), then go to the end. 3 BATCHES and 6 weeks.
Help, what am I missing? And if we are successful the results should transfer to Ebolacide and the trials run in a similar manner. IMHO Like TEXAS HOLD 'EM ALL IN
Remember "no news in biotech is good news". Any bad news would have to be PRed immediately.
Where is my misunderstanding, Please?
Shipped 200 mg.
need 2.5 kg.
need 12.5 more batches for complete testing.
how long does it take to make one 200 mg batch? 2 weeks? Or?
Will we ship every 2 weeks?
Why not DIVIDE AND CONQUER? INSTEAD OF GOING IN MICO STEPs, JUMP TO THE MIDDLE AND IF THAT WORK, JUMP TO THE MIDDLE AFAIN (now 75% of the way home), then go to the end. 3 BATCHES and 6 weeks.
Help, what am I missing? And if we are successful the results should transfer to Ebolacide and the trials run in a similar manner. IMHO Like TEXAS HOLD 'EM ALL IN !!
wow a big thumbs up on this post
Why not 100%? our cide is not a living organism. If you infuse 3,000,000,000 cide particles and the virus that is a living organism evades and hides from some of them the virus can refire itself. The body must be healthy enough to fight the virus with the help of our cide. What % survive now?
Or are you talking a trial where a ethal dose s given and nnvc hs a 50% survival rate?
Sorry, not one company, none has a product for Ebola as you stated.
You can try to prove me wrong by proving a link,
Reality says Ebola will have it way this time. All the efforts to control the outbreak will eventually, hopefully, contain the outbreak. The efforts by all the drug companies are to find a way to stop it earlier NEXT time. Vaccines are a prophylactic. The time and scope of this outbreak is too late and too large for drugs to do much good.
As to NNVC we can use this tragic event to prove out curative approach to healing people infected with a virus. Maybe even save a few people.
It appears that containment and good practices are all we can do now.
close high 3.26 low vol 86k.
Wait til Monday now.