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Gasper, are/were you a distributor?
The line of distributors we haven't seen or heard about again is very long. Some of us have been wondering the same thing. Where is Nanofan, where is Aktarus, where is the new China partner which was supposed to begin early in 2010 (or former china distributor), what happened to the Australian dist or the African dist, or New Zealand store chain (Placemakers), where's the Canadian distributor and Canadian inventor who were previously being mentioned in PRs, where's Weltex the UK distributor?
As for the glorious projects, don't get me started. lol
What I'd find of value is for some distributors to step forward and speak about their experiences (hopefully good, but also bad if applicable) with the company. Why do they disappear in silence?
Gasper, Yes, I know, removing the distributor list from the website IMO could be a sign that distributors were quitting due to poor service or poor sales, or that the company didn't want distributors and/or the public to communicate with each other because there were some negative impressions being built up (for various reasons)? Long product lead times is a bad thing for an upstart company, and shutting off communication with distributors is also not a good sign IMO.
About your application, the lower the heat of the substrate... the less % Nansulate will decrease it. 65F is room temperature, so I'm not sure why you'd expect the surface temp to decrease much. Or am I misunderstanding you? Putting insulation on something that's room temperature wouldn't offer much benefit or temp change. Right?
Qone0, Good post, but sad state of affairs.
Hmmmmm: "Warren Buffett ruled out a second recession in the U.S. and said businesses owned by his Berkshire Hathaway Inc. are growing. "I am a huge bull on this country," he said Monday."
He left out the part that the companies are growing by offshoring jobs & by laying everybody off to lower expenses. Is that growth, or is it just cost cuts to improve balance sheets amid poor business performance as compared to the past? Will the balance sheets look bad again if they re-hire their labor forces?
Gasper, What substrate exactly did you apply it to and under what conditions, and how many coats? You didn't really give enough info for anyone to be able to give you suggestions. There's an easy application to test whether it works much at all (or not) - just apply 3 coats to the hot water pipe coming out of your hot water heater. After curing for a couple weeks, and even after a couple days, the surface temp change is very noticeably lower to the touch. It's a really easy experiment to do.
I'm not surprised about the wait for product. That seems to be a shared experience by many who order.
KQ, I mirror most of your sentiment. Except that I don't love the company or the stock. The company has stooged us too many times by saying things they obviously hadn't secured yet. That is a good thing to do when needing to dilute, but a very bad thing to do to shareholders because of the double whammy of buying shares based on news that doesn't come to fruition... and then also having the % ownership reduced due to increased OS and the PPS going down only makes it worse (a triple whammy of sorts).
The thing I really like is the product, nothing else. It's fun to root for the little guys, but only when they don't dupe their supporters. lol Maybe the new supporters will be treated better in that regard than we were.
Thanks stogiebun. em
Maybe the Fat Lady glazes her donuts with Nansulate so they keep her full longer. lol
46K in 2Q, 265K in 1Q. That's 300K halfway into the year, and then they announce record 3Q revenues. Still not very good overall revenues, but maybe they'll beat 2009's total.
2008 revenue was around $1.4M, if I remember correctly, and we've had a lot of dilution since then so even duplicating that feat it'd be harder to reach the same PPS levels as in the past because now the float is larger and more shares to be sold into a rally.
Wonder why they don't get the attorney letter completed so they can become "Current Info" on pinksheets since at one point that was all that was needed to raise their level of compliance (which could help the stock or credibility a little, right?). That letter has been in progress for years now, but never gets completed?
Understood, thanks. It always gives me pause when a formation looks ugly, guess it's a natural reaction. So I needed a reminder about it not mattering much what as long as the basic formation is still there even if not ideal nor shaped just right.
lowtrade, Thanks. The reverse head & shoulders (bull formation) option looks like the head is very pointy! Is that Ok, or would that violate the pattern? lol
The regular head & shoulders (bear formation) looks like it fits the pattern a little better as far as shape? I've forgotten, how much do you factor in the look-n-feel of the formation that way? Or is it equally as valid even if one formation doesn't "look" like it fits quite as well?
lowtrade, Do you consider the current market a bearish one overall? Meaning, the long uptrend of 2009/2010 is now confirmed as broken?
I know it's tough to judge the market when the govt keeps intervening, but what's your take? A lot of pro traders now seem to consider us in a bear market which is being propped up by bogus crutches (stimulus, etc).
Woops, I missed that message. Sorry, thought you could PM. Neat idea, but is a lot to handle once it starts. Maybe too much hassle. If I was as good at it as you are, though, I'd be tempted!
low, I agree, the talking heads can also simply front-load their buddies and then let their lips start flapping on TV and then sell into the retail momo that ensues. lol
Oh. I meant OTC & big board, LOL. Guess I had it wrong! Thanks for the detailed response!
lowtrade, Thanks. Might it be said that retail has a lot more "buying power" overall than anyone else, right? Or am I wrong in that? Millions of retail stock market players must have billions or trillions of buying power. That's why the name of the game is get retail excited, or get them to be bearish, and then follow that direction to profit on a stock. Or, simply recognize what retail feels about a stock and then follow that direction.
So then, doesn't that basically make retail in control? As far as OUR trading goes, I mean. I probably way over exaggerated that point in my other post, though, since as you just pointed out the folks who are truly in control are not retail. Retail is just the herd, and the means for the big players to make money... BUT, if we're trading instead of "investing", then retail represents where the profits are. So, they're in control of our trading decisions for the most part, right?
Yes, for example... all Ameritrade customers (or any broker) could be classified as "retail". Not professionals, not MMs, not pit traders on wall street. Just mom & pop, joe schmoes. The overall sentiment. "The market" for any given stock is essentially reflecting what retail feels about it.
I may have exaggerated that last point, though, because insiders, MMs, professionals, and nowadays also the government... can all impact and control how a particular stock behaves. But usually, overall, retail seems to end up dictating where the stock goes.
Cobra, I believe in general when this board refers to retail... he means "the herd" (the sheeple). The public, or all of us as a whole - and our corresponding sentiment and behavior towards a given stock. Not market makers (MMs).
phrantic, Agreed. But I hear that trailing stops don't show up the way fixed stops do. So, according to trading plan... just set a trailing stop at whatever $ amount or % fits the trade plan.
A trading plan w/out loss mitigation rules can be a real disaster as you know.
Cobra, For the overall pattern, or most of it anyway, you want decreasing volume as the descending triangle takes shape. That indicates less interest in the stock. A bear signal and bear volume confirmation. Then as the support line starts to be broken, as the pattern comes to maturity... increasing volume is expected as the weakness is confirmed. But overall, yes, decreasing volume is part of the formation.
http://stockcharts.com/help/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:chart_patterns:descending_triangle_
low, re: KATX, very nice descending triangle formation that has already played out very well. But notice Aug 23rd the false entry signal... a great example for new traders of why stops are needed for every entry. That would have been an entry & stopout to protect from potentially larger losses. Then, re-entry on the 2nd break of the support line... and nice profits to follow.
I have an idea. Take a vote... should I stop posting to this board because I refuse to post positive-only?
And no, I don't post negative-only, despite what some folks keep saying. I post any positive I can find. Problem is, I also post any negative I find. Speaking of positives... who found the Iranian insulation company recently which is offering Nansulate and posted it here? I did.
But let's have some fun... if this is a pump-rah-rah-positive-only board, then take a vote. If the vote is I shouldn't post here, then maybe I'll stop! lol
Guys, this chat board does not control INTK's price nor your investment if you're holding indefinitely. Your investment will be determined by the company's success and nothing else, right? If you have positives to discuss with others here, then DISCUSS THEM. Stop whining about what others post. Get some info, post it, and celebrate it! I've done so. But what did it get me? Not much. Oh well, so what. Your turn, post your great info and be glad about having made a great investment in INTK at such low prices!
If the company starts building a history of delivering on announcements, projections, and promises, instead of over-promising and under-delivering... then trust me, the stock will follow. It'll go WAY UP, easily. It's up to them. It doesn't matter what message boards say. Some interesting stuff has been turned up on INTK message boards, though, both good and bad.
LOL! More personal posts! Yes, I do feel this board is irrelevant. I don't think what I have to say is important. But, I do think what I have to say is objective. Hey, I'll say it for you too... maybe this time the past is not an indication of the future!
All tiny companies have to start somewhere and they didn't start out with huge sales. They had to grow, through the hard times. But I'm not sure if 6 years is a good timeframe to still be operating at a substantial loss. But maybe it is! I don't know. Also, most tiny companies which ended up succeeding didn't start out as unaudited and unsolicited pinksheets. Just something else to keep in mind. But that doesn't mean this one won't succeed in time! Good luck on your investment or your trade!
Ida, This is a message board, and the point of message boards for some is to share past, current, and future opinions and ideas... and to be objective, not just to cheerlead and pump. I'm sorry if the history is painful for you to hear. But, it is what it is. You should concern yourself more with facts than with what someone else says. I'm basing my comments mostly on facts, mixed with some opinions extrapolated from such facts. By the way, I don't post negative to everything. Show me something verifiably positive, and I'll do a rah rah sis boom bah just like you want everyone to! Otherwise, sorry if you think I'm ruining your pumping, because I'm NOT. This board is irrelevant; just comments from a bunch of schmoes. You should be happy with your own opinions!
Do I have to say it again, for your benefit only? Ok, here you go again... maybe this time it's different! I'll say it tomorrow again if you'd like. lol Feel better now? Maybe INTK will go way up! Ahhhh, yes, that must make you happy!
Next, will you blame "shorty", declare MOASS (mother of all short squeezes), load the boat, true longs, shake cheap shares from the weak, to da moon, MM conspiracy to keep down a powerhouse of a pinksheet? lol
onewho, Exactly, therefore... message boards are essentially irrelevant to the company, and the stock's overall performance is critically tied to the management and performance of the company. Nothing else. Even financing has nothing to do with message boards or potato-headed retail sentiment. Financiers look at fundamentals, facts, products, financing terms, management and management history and track record, etc, not opinions and silly message boards.
Paid bashers? I think you and I live in different worlds altogether. I don't believe denial helps an investment, and I don't believe silly message boards help or hurt... since, unless you're looking to flip, a stock will live and die on the merits and actions of the company itself over time. Nothing else. Good luck, hope this turns around for you and everyone. Nobody says it can't.
Oh, then the realities of the past should be ignored instead? So that the current stuff seems like it's the first time the company has ever dangled such carrots for us? Maybe that's the right and honest thing to do?
If they have a good 3Q, that'd be great. Maybe they'll get back to 2008 sales levels, and maybe they'll audit the financials for 2007 forward so that we can believe the figures.
You wouldn't like it very much if, every time someone mentioned how their experience with this stock has gone over the last several years (happens to be negative in most cases, sorry; look at a chart), they accused you of pumping or being a pumper due to your one-sided comments... would you? I didn't think so.
So keep that in mind when you throw around ridiculous terms such as "basher". By the way, most pinksheets have PROVEN to be total debacles altogether and that nonsense about "bashers never bash a bad stock" and other such views are completely ridiculous and misguided. Just a little pinksheets lesson for you. Whatever pinksheets you can find, look at how many of them have been "bashed" and then look at how many of them were scams and stock schemes. I'm not referencing INTK on that note - just pinksheets. All the countless scams were "bashed". So, maybe those you call bashers are more like truth tellers in many cases.
There's obviously good reason for that, no? Do you have any idea how many projects, all of which sounded excellent, they "anticipated" releasing some info on over the years? Do you have ANY idea?
I hope you're buying the dickens out of the stock if you believe they are at critical mass and are on the precipice of success. And I hope you're right, and that this time is different than before.
It's very simple. The "fool me once, shame on you. fool me 5 times, shame on me" mentality takes effect after a while. Right or wrong, that's what happens with people after a while.
Maybe the same boogie man who PR'd 19 months ago that Nansulate should fulfill the US Army's needs and that product had already been sent for lab & field trials. Guess we should just assume it worked out great and sales are rolling in from the Army. lol
And China, and US Army, and Saudi Arabia, and UAE, and Petrobras, and Turkey/Coats, and Nansulate Shield, and Nansulate Aqua, and Nansulate Wrap, and Nansulate Bee Protect official studies by industry professionals or universities, and the 2000 mile Alaskan pipeline, and Grainger, and the electronics company, and S Africa, and many many other supposed projects that apparently evaporated(?)
Is the pump broken?
Agreed, he's the bounce-master!
griff, Is he offering tutoring on that method? lol
What happened to smokeeater? em
Ida, by the way my broker has been showing .015 as best ask for quite a while now today. The .021 was from this morning, and I'm sure that was just bait or random best bid/ask - just like the .0115. Seeing who'd sell too low or who'd buy too high.
Ida, C'mon, this is not a dark force conspiracy. Not all brokers "show" the trades on LII. The .021 may be the one that shows, but the company or a consultant or financier and whatever MM they're using could be auto-selling for them at .015 per the share owner's directive. The lid was put on after the PR yesterday, too - the seller was ready and waiting for the PR volume.
Pinksheets are NOT super secret hidden conspiracies just waiting to whammy "shortie" (lol!!) and they don't play games to reward the truly loyal or true longs. Those are all excuses used in the pinksheets every day to deflect attention away from dilution and shoddy stock action. The fact is, there is a large seller(s) who are draining enough shares that any buying is washed out and moot.
That was funny about the Iranian repeat business, though! lol
Nansulate in Iran? The .ir domain is the country code for Iran. Is it legal to sell in Iran? Is this some Iranian insulation company? Nanofan the distributor had a project in Iran in the past, didn't they? Maybe this company will sell some product.
http://pasargadinsulation.ir/english.htm
The Nansulate product page. It also shows 2 non-Nansulate products. I think they are Aspen Aerogel products (using a different name). Why are they selling this stuff on the Nansulate product page?
http://pasargadinsulation.ir/prod14_copy(1).htm
Aspen Aerogel website - same 2 photos as used on the Pasargad .ir Nansulate page:
http://www.aerogel.com/markets/oem.html
VillageIdiot, You said it... IF the Coats deal went through. If it did or does, then yes I'd agree the PPS should go up and stay up higher than it is now. But I don't know if any Coats deal has gone through, and I assume others don't know either or else they'd say so. Too many guesses, too many special whispers, too many failures to deliver. Too much over-promising and under-delivering. You aren't the only one who feels like the village idiot for believing past announcements as they relate to timelines given.
Your guess as to what's going on is probably as good as anyone else's. As someone else pointed out, at these low prices a gambler and/or an investor could make some very nice $ on this stock if things go well. Or it could continue to make more village idiots out of more people.
Is this a good stock?