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Cigars coming from DR and Nicaragua are of the same caliber as Cubans. Zzzzz
Please do more research on VLN. PM even funded a study that showed VLN wasn't all that successful in quits, but it was healthier for the smokers.
Go sit down, have a cigar (one from the General please) and do some reading on PM. Yes they do it to create barrier to entry, improve image, and change policies.
If PM hates VLN, then they are going to have to block Brand A and X22. Or they could just buy em and shelve it.
To think PM would be so transparent and leave their playbook wide open for Peons like you and I to figure out. Ha! That's naivety. Hidden in plain sight. Most are just too lazy to find it.
And what of Brand B? XXII meets with FDA this month to do a proof of concept with them. You gonna tell me Big T wouldn't want Brand B? Henry and Joe mentioned in the Herzog call that Brand B was the money maker. Brand A was a niche product.
Jason N knows just as much as we do. His articles had more than a few errors if I recall.
That had to be one crazy time. Are you long xxii?
Thoughts about the tobacco side of XXII?
You should post more.
Last I checked the FDA seemed to be guiding them on how to resubmit the data. No extra trials/studies needed. Why didn't they squash them in January 2017?
If I was the tobacco industry, I wouldn't want anyone to know I was trying to push for "safer Cig's". Have you ever read the comments on XXIIs articles sometimes? People don't even trust it coming from XXII. You can find the same strategy used in snack foods. The big don't want people to know they are behind the healthy brands. If I were Big T I would use xxii and use shareholders $$ to foot the bill, and take it once it's gotten.
I don't know many people who have done the research I have done. My research still leads me to believe xxii will be needed in some form or fashion to Big T. It's a chess game.
I respect your opinion but I'm sticking to my research until you can bring me something more solid than a 2 dimensional view. This is business. Roll or get rolled on. Think outside the box.
Once again, you give VLN a lot of credit. I know current smokers really won't enjoy a VLN cig. Big tobacco obviously knows that. You can see the numbers on VLN. They aren't mind blowing. Not a silver bullet.
Big tobacco wrote the 2009 act. THEY LET THE RULE OF DECREASING NICOTINE AS LONG AS IT WASNT TO 0 STAY.
PM failed because of taste. Something xxii doesn't have to worry about. I used to say VLN can be used to get folks to switch cig brands...but hell I don't see why it can't be used to get people to switch to ecigs.
Double fist. VLN in one hand, IQOS in another.
Evidence that PM wanted a reduced nicotine cig on the market to capture the "I want to quit crowd". Spent a bunch of money and failed. It also fits their strategy of aligning WITH the FDA. It keeps them at the top and looking good.
Or Evidence that Brown and Williamson were jacking up the nicotine content in Cig's and hired a 3rd party biotech firm in the 90s to get it done.
Yes to the second. Any current evidence? I can show you dated evidence to the contrary.
Sorry hit send to early. I don't agree and you haven't give any solid evidence in your posts. Pam just did a PMTA application end of March. They filed MRTP in late 2016.
Sound familiar?
It would be interesting if there was a study done on using VLN to step to IQOS, or something of that nature.
My point is, tobacco companies probably have their plans in place in dealing with the future decline of Cig's. Phillip Morris is touting IQOS like crazy.
You keep saying that VLN is dead, basically. I don't agree.
We don't have to imagine. We are living it! Hence why MJ legalization will save the day. Mark this post. However long it takes :)
IQOS did $454M sales in Q1 2017. VLN is no silver bullet. People would still smoke.
RJR and Altria own the moist tobacco category. I Read that "NNN" may become banned which is commonly found in smokeless tobacco. Where does NNN come from? Well it comes from Nornicotine, which is an alkaloid. If xxii can suppress Nornicotine, they can suppress NNN. The article noted tobacco MFGs said that it was "virtually impossible to achieve the low level of NNN that would be needed via normal production processes."
Would be a good question for the upcoming CC.
Read an article today that said Oklahoma would have to shut down hospitals if they didn't get their tobacco tax money raise. LOL
More importantly, why "sportsperspective"
I also wonder what impact alkaloids have on how a plant grows or how it could be used.
Examples: alkaloids can regulate plant growth. Alkaloids protect plants. Nicotine needs to be removed from tobacco biomass to be able to create tobacco jet fuel.
I'm curious why people think that legalizing weed will mean there isn't a use for 0 THC hemp?
The government and big tobacco can see where the tobacco products flow. From mfg to distributor to retail. If weed is legalized they will want to have that same control.
Therefore having a THC free hemp mitigates the need to track hemp. It's not a threat to public health at that point.
Thanks for sending. I literally was just looking for an updated statistic on this. My company ignores the MJ consumers and it's frustrating and a huge mistake in my opinion. The elevator was on the ground floor last year. Now it's at floor 2.
A cigar cone with no cutting, gutting, rolling, licking or sticking. No mess. Open the package, stuff your stuff, Light and go. I brought it up in late 2015 when nobody was doing it. Now a bigger company is doing it and I just shake my head at the missed opportunity. Their booth was packed at a regional event a couple weeks ago because of that product I hear.
61% of the population approves of legal MJ.
Yup.
And it's only going to grow as the millennials gain more power.
Thanks for the link.
I'll wait with 20k. Not 199k. I can't sit on dead money when I can be debt free. It's a sad thing. 4 years, not wasted...but I expected a lot more. Dah well.
Agree with you. Cig's have been demonized so much you have closet smokers. They can hide it and some hide it very well. College kids are definitely smoking cause they are smoking when they are drinking. Chasing or adding to the buzz.
I strongly believe the number of people who technically smoke cigs is a lot higher than the national stats. They just might not be doing it as frequently.
If Brand A can still give drunks a buzz, that could be a huge market for college kids. 10 yrs ago I'd be taking drags just to increase the spinnn. Single or 2 pack Cig's could be a game changer for the industry IMO. Heard someone just patented a 2 or 1 stick package I believe.
I agree with you there. Stop meddling in other countries affairs, or if you are, be open about why your meddling.
I wish we could just FF and see how this all shapes out.
Cig brands have to carry a VLN, MJ legalized and used to cover the declining cigarette tax revenues. Seems to be the perfect endgame to me. And if we could just get politicians to wear their sponsors on their coats like nascar....
But the problem is we are paying it now anyways. The ever increasing tax on tobacco doesn't even go to stopping tobacco use.
Legalize it all, tax it heavily, use the tax money to treat the weak minded, let them or Darwin figure it out.
I just hoping I don't have to hear "more funding needs to go to teachers and schools" down the road. NO. I can learn how to fly a plane on the Internet. I can go in to a doctors office and help the doctor reach a diagnoses because of the Internet. If you want to learn it, it's at your fingertips. Teachers are great, but IMO, they're not a necessity anymore.
Personal responsibility is taught at the dinner table with a supportive family at ones side.
JFM -- being a lawyer, I would imagine you're going to see more of the people who can't figure out how to stay out of jail, their own way, or not break the law.
MJ is just like Cig's, which is just like gambling, or alcohol. Personal responsibility is involved. Imagine what a world full of personally responsible people would be like.
The cig didn't kill you. You chose your path. The drinking and driving didn't kill. The person who chose to drink and drive killed.
I get tired of my rights being trampled on because others can't figure out how the world works.
I think more states will succumb to the inevitable the next 3.5 years. Unfortunately I think this admin will only delay the inevitable.
Money is talking tho. That's good.
Have to wonder if BPMX is going for the Russell small cap index. They want more institutions and stability, that's another way to get it.
I believe they need to reach 2.00 by end of May.
With that said, I don't expect results in June. I expect mid May.
Anyone who has been to the derm more than a couple times and been on a couple meds should agree with us.
I know I said I was in it for $10k profit....but I'm holding for more...
Chaching
It ALWAYS worked for me but Doc said I had raging hormones. Would always come back until the last time.
It changed my life, but if anyone ever sees an adolescent with lips all cracked and flakey, you bet your butt they are on accutane.
For the people struggling with moderate Acne, especially the youngsters, best believe Drs will prescribe Topical minocycline before any oral antibiotic is given. No doubt.
NO BRAINER. NICE POSTS
Especially since Vectors MSA bills were getting covered by PM. Lol
Joe fought Big T and won.
Don't let the lone name "vector" fool you. I'm sure Joe wasn't fighting against just vector for the patents.
FDA mandating nicotine levels...ZZZZZ
MRTP for Brand A will allow it to be labeled a smoking cessation product....ZZZZZ
"Whatever, the reality, the result of the PMT application will say a lot about how the FDA views the low nicotine cigarette"....ZZZZZZ
"Chances are we are not going to see a substantial rise in revenues over the coming year or two." ....ZZZZZZZZ
"I wrote this article myself and it expresses my own opinions"....YUP
Last hour will give it time to move back up a couple Pennies
Oh yes! Almosttttt there!
I tried not to be so transparent, but you figured me out. Best call the SEC now.
I'd like to play for UNC if possible.
Poll: Who would like a PR tomorrow?
My hand is raised
People wasted opportunity to load on this thing for 2 years. Now we seem to be a in our strongest climb ever and ppl post like this.
I'm happy. And I bet so are a lot of others.
Smoking cessation is only $2B in the US. Smoking is $80B. Pharma doesn't want to sell a cig
Lol talking out two sides of your mouth. Xxii needs big tobacco. Sooo if you agree with his post then how are you saying "someone else will pick up our tech"?
Go figure out who is behind SMARTT and let me know if JTI and Imperial care about XXIIs agenda...
Lol. Right. Who soft bashes as the stock is stair stepping up??