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Been fine...hope you have been too. I'm looking hard right now at several. CTUM, ZAAP, ALRY, SDGL, EMIS, RFMD and SPZI.
Can't say I've made money with them yet, but haven't lost any either...LOL.
jc
I think the company has some real enough technology, but there is an internal disconnect between the stock (and shareholders) and the company. The company may well survive, but at the expense of the average Joe like you and me. I expect a reverse split and then further dilution. So while the technology is real enough, the treatment of shareholders is like a neighbor of mine who has a "farm". He makes little or no effort to feed and care for the animals. In fact he treats them with detachment and disdain. He buys and sells animals and lives thereby, but the animals are pitiful. I have heard that if a goat or a cow of his dies, it lies there and rots. he can't be bothered with it. As a result, he does technically get by, but the condition of his "farm" is...well...kind of like HYRF.
It's a scam.
It will be listed on the Pink Sheets AND the Borse.
I'm afraid so.
Good morning ITGuy. The coming year should be interesting in deed. It will be fun to monitor the 141 Capital website to follow the trading results.
Hey Allie, email Paul and tell him to hurry up, will ya? Matt doesn't want to be kept waiting!...LOL
Great..thanks. I am confident you won't regret it.
Matt...if this board is a no-no, could it be placed in an off topic forum until the stock filing is finished?
OT...not as good as the two drummers across the circle from me! All kidding aside they are fine young ladies and very good young drummers. And they sure are a lot better looking than me...LOL
...Can't wait until 141 Cap hits the ticker...
Nice! A board to watch for sure...thanks MODS.
Bird, I think that the vast majority of lookers at our stock do not really grasp what SPv2 will do. I put myself in that category. I do often read the posts of professional traders who do grasp it and are very excited. I am encouraged that in recent months the price is up about 5x and is holding quite well.
I don't think we will see an onslaught of new buyers from the retail market until STv2 is debuted or we hear new facts and figures pointing to a transition from development stage to launch. The average investor is waiting for numbers that show revenues from growing interest and accounts in SpoozToolz. It is my hope and belief that deals involving licensing and fee sharing with Spooz, brokerages, etc. will evolve and then we will have a growth stock on our hands.
jc
To my recollection, Paul said the quiet period was at the REQUEST of those "wishing to inject millions into our company". Also, I recall someone posting an email from Paul in which he stated that SPOOZ council also advised silence.
Well, perhaps they have no intention of selling any time soon, run or no. If that were the case, why pay a premium?
May I...?
1. If the financier does not for whatever reason want a run in the price during negotiations. For example, persons associated with the financier may desire an opportunity to quietly acquire shares on the open market in an environment other than may be precipitated by press releases.
2. If the financier is concerned that a competitor may take an interest in the details of PR's and decide to make a better offer.
3. The financier does not have the mindset of a group of shareholders who frequent chat boards. He may wish not to be distracted during the course of negotiations by phone calls and or emails of unreasonable quantity and knowledge level.
4. Until negotiations are complete, details may be subject to change or renegotiation and it seems prudent to wait until everything is concluded before undertaking to announce and explain it.
5. The financier answers to a group of accredited investors who have requested silence during negotiations.
Thanks Prof. for demonstrating how to ask the company a question rather than pester the board about a question they can't answer. I hope some are taking notes.
I just sent this email, any reply to which I promise to post, OK?
Dear Mr. Stone,
I hope you are well. I have a position in Spooz and will certainly await the 141 Capital debut with eager anticipation.
I have a few questions that you may or may not have answers for or the ability to comment on just now.
1. Who will be the owners of 141 Capital? Will the majority shareholders at SPOOZ also be large holders of 141 Capital?
2. Will the Kauderer group be actively attempting to bring accredited investors to 141?
3. Has SWARM trading been on going through the recent "quiet period" and can you comment on results?
4. Can we anticipate any press releases pertaining to 141 in the near future?
Thank you very much for your consideration. I wish you the very best success with this endeavor.
Sincerely,
John Crom
Will you please ask the company? What purpose does it serve to repeat this nonsense ad nauseum? Email or call and ask for Pete's sake.
Here is Mr. Stone's email address at 141 Capital. Please email him and ask him your questions. It is very obvious that no one on the board can answer you.
estone@141capital.com
Yep...
Found it.
Presenters at the ValueRich Conference.
http://www.ivaluerich.com/expo.php?section=companies
Trader, just to be sure I hear you correctly...you hear that SPOOZ will be presenting both about ST AND 141 Capital? I hope you heard correctly.
Trader, is this what you heard about? Notice that the first link is from a German site.
http://www.ad-hoc-news.de/Aktie/12718105/News/13472533/RESEARCH.html
http://finance.alphatrade.com/story/2007-09-27/BIZ/200709271510BIZWIRE_USPR_____BW5940.html
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/index.jsp?epi_menuItemID=887566059a3aedb6efaaa9e27a808...
http://lifesciencestocks.com/wsi/fcdata.php?GUID=1555284&Page=MediaViewer&Ticker=FCON
http://studio-5.financialcontent.com/financialvisions?ChannelID=3191&GUID=3316973&Page=Media...
It's pretty much like Shinebox says. Kauderer International, from the wesite:
Our International Partner
The Kauderer Group has branched off into its own division of International Investing through a vast network of partners and affiliates throughout the world. The Kauderer Group’s Micro-Cap division, KGC Investments has merged with its international partner to form Kauderer International Partners. This is your premier source for Investment Capital in Small, Mid and Large Cap Companies with $1 to 25 million in EBIDA. Kauderer International Partners has direct access to global distribution in many countries and has formed a strategic alliance in Germany, where the foundation of The Kauderer Group began. Kauderer International Partners has formed a footprint on the Deutsche Börse and will continue throughout the world. We are Accredited Investors and not an NASD Member firm, nor an Investment Bank. If we assist our clients in funding from our own source of capital, we will never integrate our Consultancy services nor recommend Marketing or awareness.
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The above excerpt from the website puts context into the press release about 141 Capital. Obviously the Deutsche Börse connection is explained. And you mentioned the founder of Kauderer. While he is not mentioned above, it does point out that the Kauderer Group began and grew out of Germany and has formed a footprint at the Deutsche Börse. Your personal experience with Kauderer seems to be that they performed well beyond your expectations...would that be a fair assumption on my part? The Kauderer website is clear about the fact that they draw from a large pool of accredited investors. I believe Kauderer will be working with 141 Capital and Paul and company will attend to Spooz. A smart move IMO because 141 and SWARM could be a complex and massive undertaking in time. And probably beyond the scope and expertise of Spooz personnel. Not regarding the technical aspect of SWARM mind you, but as it pertains to starting and running a business such as 141. I think it wise for Spooz to have set this up quickly and freed themselves to get back to Spooz and it's original mission, namely to revolutionize the world of trading.
Thanks again for your input. I feel like you do, that one would have to be one of those traders and have seen the STv2 in operation in order to appreciate what it can do. Keep us posted on your findings and thanks again,
jc
Only 141 Capital can legally use SWARM to trade futures and derivatives. The terms of the agreement tell you that 141 has an exclusive license. Therefore no one else can legally use SWARM to trade futures and derivatives. They can't even illegally use it unless they somehow get a hold of the technology and I don't think that will happen.
Spooz can utilize SWARM for anything they want to except futures and derivatives.
It can not be taken away without 141 violating whatever terms and conditions that they have agreed to. Since they have received the license for 1:Cash 2:120 Million of their common stock, and 3:7% of net profits going forward , they too have claims to SWARM as long as they abide by the terms of the license agreement.
You would put money into 141 because you have perhaps seen what it can do and you understand and are comfortable with the agreement between Spooz, 141 Capital, and the Kauderer group.
I am not calling anyone stupid.
jc
If no one else can use it for "the most interesting applications" and Spooz will hold a significant stake in 141 shares as well as perpetual profit sharing, what in the world can you find to complain about? This is fantastic. If SWARM is wildly successful and you are a Spooz shareholder, you will make a very good return on your investment since Spooz has a stake in the only company licensed to use SWARM for futures and derivatives. You will benefit by what 141 ownership and profit sharing does for Spooz' bottom line.
...capice???
It absolutely still belongs to Spooz. 141 Capital is licensed to use SWARM to trade futures and derivatives. I guarantee you that they can not use it for anything else and they (141) can not license SWARM to anyone else or compromise the technology in any way...I would bet you anything on that. Make no mistake about it, Spooz still owns SWARM and will ensure the terms of the license are not abused. A licensing agreement ALWAYS has conditions. Spooz can absolutely license SWARM any way they can contrive to do it to anyone they choose for anything but options and derivatives trading.
If you are not clear about this, email or call the company and ask them.
The terms of the deal with 141 are clearly spelled out with the exception of what the ultimate share structure of 141 will be. Everything else can not be made any clearer, whether someone understands it or not.
Your best bet is to call or email and ask Spooz to help you understand this gift horse.
jc
OT...I hope you make it up sometime. The Grandfather Games are special. If you do , go to the band tents and look me up!
We also play the St. Patty's parade every year in Charlotte and then we play in front of the Tap Room before we join our Irish cousins for Guiness Stouts....Come see us there and have a brew.
jc
Thanks for that tidbit.
SWARM still belongs to Spooz.
You can find my outfit on YouTube
Search for "Grandfather Mountain Highlanders"
You'll hear a couple of roll offs before we play.
I can blow the fool out of a set of pipes, but I can't play a drum to save my life.
Nothing much to say. Just watching and waiting.
...no idea, but take a penny and double the sum once a day for a month. Compounding....that's what I want to see.
Gbathat,
141 will start trading derivatives only, using their own account. After they establish a track record they will register with the NFA as a commodities trading advisor and then begin accepting managed accounts from individuals and brokers.
I suspect that they already have money in their own account since they are , per the PR, about to start trading "early in the fourth quarter 2007". The previous PR mentioning the Kauderer Group may well be the source of "those wishing to inject millions into our company". The silent period was silent for us, but I bet it was a whirlwind at Spooz in order for all of this to have been set up in such a short time.
Someone that witnessed the SWARM demonstration must have salivated and moved quickly to get this deal in place. This went from concept to business model in no time flat and I mean quick. I chuckle at all the moaning and groaning on the board over the past few months about how "long" this was taking. This went very quickly and I am duly impressed that Paul and company could get this done so smoothly and in such a short time. I am now doubly confident in my position in Spooz and what they might accomplish with SpoozToolz. I stated before that I was drawn to Spooz because they have stuck with their original mission statement. What they have done with SWARM is proof positive that they are committed to the SpoozTools platform and bringing it to the markets. They have created a potential cash cow with 141 and moved it out of house. Now the original Spooz team is free to continue pushing the SpoozToolz concept to fruition. In choosing a start up company to invest in, pink or otherwise, the single most important thing to determine is the quality, character and determination of the ones behind it all.
This is a good company.
Sorry Mr. Newbie, you have to roll up your sleeves and put on your sh*t waders like the rest of us. Read the IBox, start marking the good posters and blocking the bad. In time you will have your SPZI board in ship shape.
Hahaha, LOL. Tex, it sounds like HG is sick of you constantly asking him for the news letter he promised and no one cares about anyway. So The best solution appears to be the replacement of the news letter promise ( which never had anything to say anyhow) with a regurgitated form of the years-old " just ahead" promised financials. You go George. Throw a little sand on the floor so we can hear that soft shoe dance a little better...LOL.
Prediction:
Reverse split is coming.
Skunks, the fastest and easiest way is to buy a shell... a pink sheet company that is set up and ready to go. You reverse merge 141 into the shell company.