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Remember, people sell for hundreds of reasons but only buy for one and that is they expect the stock to go up.
It all depends on when the knowledge is know. The SEC looks at events and insider activity (positive or negative) where a gain or prevention of a loss is avoided. These things are very easy to prove and almost no one gets away with it. I personally do not think he sold any stock because of potential bad news coming.
But, IF he sold these shares based on some knowledge that could be viewed as negative, the SEC will definitely nail his butt. However, IF he sold shares just before positive news, the SEC would not have an issue and at best just think you were foolish as long as your buys were within the regulation time frames.
Another thought - Maybe someone advised him that since he purchased over 300k of those shares during the time under the stay, that those buys could be brought into question if things worked out with TMOB so he sold those shares back plus more just to avoid being questioned on his timing if a deal was struck. I have no clue; I am just trying to think of a reason other than just a roof. Also, $65k is not all that much if you had a house with 8-10k sq. feet and you had metal or cedar shake. I know someone who has over $150,000 into their roof.
What does that mean?
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This could also be a transfer to a child or other family member. I did this once. I transferred some stock from my account to my sons. I was not an insider so I did not have to file a form 4. I guess we will have to just wait and see.
Asdfghj,
We should not even respond to that moron because it only enables him to shoot his mouth off about stuff he knows little to nothing about. One of the big reasons I want JS' efforts to really to pay off is to shut Sunny's mouth for good. I pray for that day. I do not even read his posts any more. If I see his name as the author, I go to the next message. He is a moron but is someone I would love to talk to for a few minutes. I have tried many time even offering my number but of course, he has no balls to discuss issues with hiding behind his ID in Arizona.
Take care.
If they were to buy CLYW for that 3 Billion, that would $15/share.
And you know this how? Or are you just speculating?
You are such an idiot. Have some respect for the sick.
Me too. Now you can see why people are saying that if you are not in this stock the day before any positive announcement, you will be paying a lot more than .10. The news use to compare CLYW's technology 6-7 years ago to Qualcom. That stock went fro only a couple of dollars to $800/share before a 4:1 and 2:1 splits. I would never suggest that level of potential but $25 seems pretty reasonable if several hundred million phones worldwide are using your technology. And if the PE happens to go to 10, 15, or 20 then you are probably looking at a 3-digit number.
That is a possibility but they cannot not even make an offer (legally) until the news is public about the settlement. Then after the market determines what that value should be (in the rise of the PPS) will TMOB or anyone else legally be able to make an offer. If you can imagine it maximum value if all of the major carriers had to sign a contract with CLYW for even .50 - 1.000 per month/per phone. At just .50; 250MM phones US is $125MM/month with no debt and currently nearly no expenses. Most of this would be profit which is say $5.00/share on 200MM shares. Even a 5 PE is $25. Now add Europe and South America. Isn't this fun?
Chiroman,
Ditto.
Chiroman,
Thank you. Maybe Sunny will believe what he has to say.
Have a very happy and enriched 2011.
Best regards.
The Bone
I understand that Albert Pope will be providing an update on the plasma gasification projects shortly after the new year. Has anyone else heard this? I wonder if he was given the reigns to the entire business development activities while JS is recovering.
That article was two years ago and TMOB still knows they are in deep do-do.
I am sure the lawyers from both sides are aware of the exact date and will comply with that filing. Could it be that the court gave them a couple more days due to the holidays and it wasn't caught in the recordings? I do not know but I don't think either company would violate teh court order.
He lives in Canada that has socialized medicine that is rationed to the worse cases first. Read the paper, it is in all of the news. I would have been placed on "watchful-wait" with my prostate scores if I had been in Canada. And I had cancer in 5 of the 12 cores. I had my surgery as soon as my biopsy site was healed. You are such a putz ball. Look up the definition.
John sent me a text last week and said the surgery is scheduled for December 31st. I asked him because we were going to say some prayers for him. As far as Sunny is concerned, we will also say prayers for his procedure with his proctologist. A cephal, analectomy is not an easy procedure when the cranial structure of the patient is so large. Good luck Sunny.
I feel that the volume will be much lighter between now and Christmas unless the pps goes up. For those who are currently in, I cannot see them selling with so little time left for at least some word from the court and the negotiation status.
Wasn't it part of the agreement with the court for the 90 day stay that the court MUST be notified IF an agreement could not be met as soon as that determination was clear? If that is so, the two companies should not be at that point which implies they are still hopeful of a settlement before Christmas or they would have notified the court that an agreement was not going to happen.
Am I correct here or just blowing smoke?
Unless it goes to $4 over night. Then it is a $44k loss.
Over 600k shares traded so far today with a high of .115. A good start to the morning.
Plus, most CPAs are very conservative people. I know several CPAs and they are all like thinkers.
But I think anyone on the inside of the company or has an involvement in either of the two cases are not allowed to trade the stock because they know way in advance what they are going to do within their side of the court cases and some of those activities will move the stock one way or the other based on the interruption of that activity. GetCarter may be Diac or someone who works for him but I personally do not buy or sell stock based on information from a poster and that is not an official PR.
Brad, He said he didn't at the time he sent me a text. He didn't say if he was going to investigate it or not. He didn't seem to care too much but thought it was a little strange someone would sell that many shares at this time. Maybe it was take advantage of a tax loss. I do not know. I am sorry I haven't called you recently. I have been very busy helping my youngest son with his first house. Maybe I can call you near the end of the week. Take care.
carter, since you saved all of us here on this board, your work is now done. Go away and stay away because I do not need you to save me anymore. I have three graduate degrees and I think I am smart enough to figure most of this out for myself. But thank you anyway.
Carter, Thank you now go away. You saved me a bundle.
Ditto D the G.
He sent me a text and said they are meeting with the IR/PR company today and that we will talk on Wednesday. That is all I know. If you want the real facts with 100% certainty, you must ask SDSUN. Right.
It must be the latter because JS did not know who sold those shares.
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Carter,
So what do you to say after today's news from the court? You were right on. Nice call.
I think these may be MM's sending their signals on which way they want the price to go because you are right, what are the odds that there is someone out there who wants to sell 200 shares for .10 and at the same time, there just happens to be someone out there wants to buy 200 shares for only .10? I mean, please.
That is great advice. Thanks.
Carter,
Absolutely not true. First of all I do not make those predictions because like most of the people on this board and others, I do not have absolute information on what is going on or who is thinking what. You speak in absolutes like you KNOW what is going on now and what will happen in the future. I can accept ANY news that is official, positive or negative but it must come an official source not by someone who is speculating like they know the outcomes as facts. If you want to be more credible and people not ignoring you, start your statement with "I think" or "I don't think" blah, blah will or will not happen.
Carter,
You are so full of crap. You do not know anything about how the talks are going with daic or TM unless you are in the room when these discussions are going on. If you are an insider and involved in these discussions, I would suggest you keep you mouth shut and stop your posting because you are violating SEC rules by presenting confidential information about corporate negotiations in an attempt to manipulate the stock price. If you are not an insider, your comments are only YOUR crazy guesses and predictions. If the latter, no one really cares what you think beyond that it is YOUR opinion.
Someone had to sell before the other person could buy. :O
Highrider, how can carter or anyone tell how many shares you traded and when. If someone can do that, this trading thing is getting a little scary. I can see if you said you bought a large block at a certain time of the day and then later posted that you did that but other than that, how would he or anyone else know? It really sounds like Carter is bad mouthing the stock just to buy in at a lower price with more volume. He should put up all he has for .08 - .10 and see how fast it will go.
The Bone
Carter,
Did you say you were still in this stock? If so, why do you bad mouth a company where you are still invested? What exactly are you looking at where you can see Highrider's buys? You must be a genius.