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The girls there are cuter, plus they manage their time better. Not as much chit chat. LOL!!
This is when the Herpes cream that we we're supposed to revolutionize the world with would come in handy.
Arnold,
It's best to just assume they are, why would you think any different??
Why didn't the company announce that the Patent office denied many of our claims and patents, shouldn't that have been announced?? We announce our paid advertising and all our paid sponsorships but not this very important fact??
I think it's ironic that we announce everything but the things that are really going to hurt us. We found out about the failure on here, not from the company. I expected al least an annoucement about the results we got and at least the rebuttal that it's normal to have this happen and have to go back for several more years to fight for what you want. We got 0 mention of it and no response, how responsible is that?
Why do these people need us if we have no patents for them to protect?? Do you think they have fear or want to pay us money if they don't have to? Collecting incomes come on the fact that the others have soemthing to lose by going around us and doing it on their own. We have no way of stopping them and looking at our bank account, not enough money to pay to fight them anyways.
How do you know what CYGX is expecting and what orders might come through?? Is there something your not telling us or a verifiable source??
It's reality calling, pick up the phone.
Spin this:
I think the company needs to write a new patent for ssydDNA, (so sorry your dying - DNA). That will be the new greatest invention, we'll need to get a building to manufacture it even though we have no chance of getting a patent and no way to protect ourselves from other people copying it. Then we can call some of the colleges and be like hey , we'll send you a check for a study and you can look at how the ssydDNA interacts with other retards stupid enough to believe these guys. We'll then publish the results in some obscure journal no one ever heard of that takes another check for advertising and then get the "wall street reporter" to actually find a need to discuss it after our check clears. Don't forget we'll need a few mad chinese scientists to say it's great and really helps the retards believe, even though the language the speak and the translation come out a little different but hey who cares, the check cleared right? Does this sound like a real game plan to all of you ?? Plan on going to the bank with this??
The reality is the only people that ever recognized this company had an incentive to do so. We paid for just about everything we ever read and any press we got at all. It's actually a crazy way to make a living but it has one ending, the people at the top find ways to keeping collecting and their "friends" as well and the rest of the bottom feeders get to hold the line. I hope all of you that are holding the line really trust the people that brought you there. Those people admittedly hold multiple times more shares than you but are going to tell you what's going on and when it's the exact time to sell, right? I would safely say that call will come about 4 weeks too late and leave you holding a line with no fish at the end. Can you safely say that your money is in a smart spot with a bright future here, just looking at the chart? Get your head out of the sky and think for while about it. Read the pattern above and think if you recognize it. The patent office recognized it and they said " NO DICE ". Once that came out that they couldn't agree with us scientifically after all this time, we had nothing left.
If you cannot independently verify an investment's value with other non-profiting organizations, you have a huge risk there. When push comes to shove, these guys have done or earned nothing they didn't pay for. Even though we have a "Patent attorney" writing for us, we have nothing to show for it. Let's build a huge facility to manufacture something that anyone else can, but why? Why coulnd't another place that has a similiar facility in place just do the same thing without needing to build a facility? Are we that novel that only we can do it?? Not according the government. We even cut the order from GE our supplier of the products necessary to make our products, but why?? DO we plan on ramping up for the big opening or we aren't going to make as much product as we thought in this "necessary facility"?
Too many signs here lead to a loss for all involved, read them.
I think the company needs to write a new patent for ssydDNA, (so sorry your dying - DNA). That will be the new greatest invention, we'll need to get a building to manufacture it even though we have no chance of getting a patent and no way to protect ourselves from other people copying it. Then we can call some of the colleges and be like hey , we'll send you a check for a study and you can look at how the ssydDNA interacts with other retards stupid enough to believe these guys. We'll then publish the results in some obscure journal no one ever heard of that takes another check for advertising and then get the "wall street reporter" to actually find a need to discuss it after our check clears. Don't forget we'll need a few mad chinese scientists to say it's great and really helps the retards believe, even though the language the speak and the translation come out a little different but hey who cares, the check cleared right? Does this sound like a real game plan to all of you ?? Plan on going to the bank with this??
The reality is the only people that ever recognized this company had an incentive to do so. We paid for just about everything we ever read and any press we got at all. It's actually a crazy way to make a living but it has one ending, the people at the top find ways to keeping collecting and their "friends" as well and the rest of the bottom feeders get to hold the line. I hope all of you that are holding the line really trust the people that brought you there. Those people admittedly hold multiple times more shares than you but are going to tell you what's going on and when it's the exact time to sell, right? I would safely say that call will come about 4 weeks too late and leave you holding a line with no fish at the end. Can you safely say that your money is in a smart spot with a bright future here, just looking at the chart? Get your head out of the sky and think for while about it. Read the pattern above and think if you recognize it. The patent office recognized it and they said " NO DICE ". Once that came out that they couldn't agree with us scientifically after all this time, we had nothing left.
If you cannot independently verify an investment's value with other non-profiting organizations, you have a huge risk there. When push comes to shove, these guys have done or earned nothing they didn't pay for. Even though we have a "Patent attorney" writing for us, we have nothing to show for it. Let's build a huge facility to manufacture something that anyone else can, but why? Why coulnd't another place that has a similiar facility in place just do the same thing without needing to build a facility? Are we that novel that only we can do it?? Not according the government. We even cut the order from GE our supplier of the products necessary to make our products, but why?? DO we plan on ramping up for the big opening or we aren't going to make as much product as we thought in this "necessary facility"?
Too many signs here lead to a loss for all involved, read them.
Anything less is just more fluff trying in vain to keep the "fish" on the line.
This has been going on for 6 years now, you expect it to change now?? You have a few hero's on here that find the most obscure things about other companies CYGX talked to and then somehow try to tie them together with us??
The management here never learned how to get a check from anybody in the real business world, except from their "friends". If they spent half that time calling other companies and setting up meetings with their own industry, maybe and just maybe those companies would of stolen the patents and had a real attorney write them up, with something that would of went through and actually got a patent. We wouldn't of got paid either way but at least we would of saved the world, right?
I think the company needs to write a new patent for ssydDNA, (so sorry your dying - DNA). That will be the new greatest invention, we'll need to get a building to manufacture it even though we have no chance of getting a patent and no way to protect ourselves from other people copying it. Then we can call some of the colleges and be like hey , we'll send you a check for a study and you can look at how the ssydDNA interacts with other retards stupid enough to believe these guys. We'll then publish the results in some obscure journal no one ever heard of that takes another check for advertising and then get the "wall street reporter" to actually find a need to discuss it after our check clears. Don't forget we'll need a few mad chinese scientists to say it's great and really helps the retards believe, even though the language the speak and the translation come out a little different but hey who cares, the check cleared right? Does this sound like a real game plan to all of you ?? Plan on going to the bank with this??
I think it's actually madness to make a facility to make something that anyone else can make and have no way to protect yourself from it getting stolen, don't you?
They said similiar things about the other staff but some people on here would like you to believe that they plan on hanging onto their shares as well. It's a big price we are going to have to pay to get rid of him and I feel it will hurt the already low price but we we're doomed from the start. These guys got their friends together and voted themselves millions of shares for their efforts and talents. Their high school diploma's gave them credentials for multi-million dollar payouts.
Load people up with shares at cheap prices, ask for a big raise plus stock with the incentive of more shares to the friends and then justify it with management's need of a large position to protect the company from buyouts. What a joke and only a high school guy could of come up with it, not a lawyer.
Folks, all of us still holding shares are being snowed over here. All of these guys are going to sell and walk away from this company at the highest price they can and leave us holding the bag. The big money in this is not going to just wait it out and see how it goes in the long run, they are going to see a panic selling eventually and decide it's time to move on out. You will end up having like several million share waiting to get like $.02 and the stock will just sit. We'll have no management, no way of making a stock sale of value, be delisted and the your accountant will have a write off sheet waiting for you. I see this as a very likely scenario and I am in this so light I really don't care. This is just all my opinion obviously and nothing is set in stone but looking at the charts I see, it's just a matter of time. If the people here spent half the time working to really find clients instead of investors, we would have a income right now and some stability.
Goodluck to all of you who stay here to the end, it's near.
Retire and have nothing further to do with the company, that is my sticky point. I want him to have no further input nor any responsibility there at all. Clean break they call it, no troubles at all.
The dreamers on here aim to distract and point out what other companies have done to earn money. Those other companies probably hired a real staff and a real marketing team to try to forward itself. Right now we have the bottom rung hanging around and they are planning on staying on in some capacity in charge. Until the day when the old guard is all gone including shares, I am staying very light in this stock.
There is much better opportunities out there to make money, even in the major indexes versus parking it in this time bomb. Wait until the old management runs out of savings and starts cashing in their shares, are they still going to call their old friends and tell them everything is still great and they need to stay in the stock while they sell? I think it's a very likely scenario, first out / most earned.
Expect to the stock to get drilled today, huge fall.
This is the exact reason I am sitting in alot lighter position on this company than I was. Management is a waste of thought right now but the science may still help pull it through. As the time ticks away, so do many of the people who believed in it and the chances of it actually happening.
It is only logical that if someone invested based partly on LW's legal and appropriate assurances of the potential of the investment and the future of the company, they are more likely to bail than those that MS brought into the fold.
What is so hard to understand about that?
I thought I was pretty cut and dry about it. JJ likes to distract from obvious factual information and make up theories, I knew a guy like that once.
I have pointed out nothing but realities that have come to past for 1.5 years now. Check the double black diamond charts and then let me know how anyone gets excited about the current scenario.
Reality is Millions of shares are on the sideline waiting to get sold and the between the people that we're recently fired plus all of their contacts who hold a majority of the shares no longer have a contact at the company. It's a recipe for an eventual disaster which I'll watch play out.
This all doesn't mean the science is broken it's the management and previous business practices that need to be overcome. One of the big boys gets a hair across his *** and we are a single digit stock. I think it's really just a matter of time.
Wait until these guys try for more private placement money and they hear we'll give you $.05 for the shares, they'll have to give away like 1/3 of the company to raise $5M at those numbers (5% of 100 Millions shares / $.05).
How will you be feeling as an investor with a single digit penny stock and then that's being diluted ~1/3 it's value? We're sitting ducks right now, no chance of anywhere but down until the old trash is clean up and gone. No more covering it over with fancy stories or wait until you see what's next. Those games played themselves and many people are getting testier by the minute, I know more than a few.
Sounds like a nice dream, let's get one patent approved or one IND started first and then we can chat.
We are so far from making a drug a reality right now it's sickening and we want to be a manufacturer but have no marketing team to move our products?? Does that make sense to anyone here at all??
You want to manufacture a product but have no real way or budget set up to market it? We have a unpatented product that others can copy and repeat at will without fear of reprecussion. In a nutshell, we basically have nothing.
This company is going nowhere until the people that lead it, get it done. Getting you toes in the sand and saying you live at the beach is different from sleeping there in comfort everynight. I know the difference, the question is does everyone else here?
I would Arnold, the problem is pretty much anything this management has done business wise has been a complete cluster ****. They are great at diluting the stock and loading themselves up with stcoks / options as they try to taut all they have done.
To this point, I see a future loss for all involved. I am in it lightly myself and waiting to hear the amazing news, ~8 years and counting.
Patents are only good in court and collecting royalties, penalties and fees, so are product is better?? If anyone can use your product and you have no way to protect yourself, we are screwed. Reality bites man.
We need a chief medical officer, I like that title.
Who is going to market to earn this type of money? The rap star?? Let's try to be realistic here and realize these clients are not going to start writing checks without the right person talking with them.
It's a riot to have someone mention earning numbers on here and realize we have no one at the house that knows how to collect a check. We have signed a few license agreements and have collected basically zero. We have sent our materials out in quantity and have collected zero back. The idea behind sending materials out is to try to get a check from the people / company you sent them to. If you get no check, you have no deal.
So far we have received almost nothing in income for 8 years, lost most of management / scientific board, any partners we had or have have been riding for almost nothing and we are the one's placing orders to buy things. We even had to cut back on getting products because obviously we plan on sending less out.
Get a grip of reality here folks, we are going no where fast and as long as the current chief is here or involved, we are going to end up no where.
When has this company released bad news?? Except for their Q-reports? They don't release bad news, they mention a fact and leave it at that. When someone leaves, they never say why or try to explain it (which is fine).
Please don't ever think that we'll release bad news until that fateful day that announces, we are regrettably unable to continue normal business operations, you be informed of your tax deduction options for your losses by your accountant.
It derailed about 2 stops back.
At that time I believed him but after ~4 years, we have gone nowhere. Let's put him in charge of the Board as well and keep him aboard, not.
Keep telling yourself they won't sell either. Better to walk away with something than nothing, right now no job & no income will choke off any savings.
Whenever the current management / fired Ex-management credit cards company's start calling for payment.
Who in their right mind would pay $.25 to be forced to hold onto this stock for years right now? $.10 at best.
Cute girl but she ended up losing, dream ended. SEC filing with amount given & signed off by CEO i'll believe it, otherwise it's BS.
OMG LO was a nightmare, lol.
One year ago, the Company's shares closed at $0.940. The price has declined more than 66 percent since then.
Ready on 3: 1,2,3 rah rah rah go CYGX management team. You are the greatest and know what you are doing. Oh wait let me turn the chart the right way because the monkeys (pumpers) had it facing the wrong way.
Ok, we lost 66% + in value the past year, well lets keep the head guy on board then. He lead us this far down and we can use a guy like him at the board meeting and let him help us make decisions and his patent work (after 8 years of trying maybe he is getting close?). Did anyone ever wonder why he stopped practicing patent law?? Could it have been he never started?
Does anyone reading the above statements get the picture yet?? You don't invite one of the problems to stay, you ask them to leave just like he did Mr. High schooled degree wonderlich. They both needed tossing years ago and the head guy needed a finger to point a problem at and he is too old to bend his anymore, so someone had to go. Who's the smart one remaining now, with the SP declining and no volume.
Doomed we are.
He is not planning on going, he is planning to stay on the board and hang around. I personally think he needs to hand off the keys and disappear, not hang around and try to help. He had 8 years to help and it's gotten us broken promises, lawsuits and excuses.
Our guy wouldn't even be able to shine Bruce Given's shoes, Bruce at least has put the drug into the position to give it a chance to become a drug. Our guy is still talking about 90 days until financing, some building we don't need, and starting a IND sometime 1st quarter 2007.
Just get a clue as to how far we are behind and have never even come close to making a timeline. Why would we want want to even have anything more to do with him is beyond me. Maybe we can keep him around for patent help, lol.
Is there a possibility that brutal honesty still exists? Sitting on a log while it's going down a waterfall is still sitting, until you drown at the end.
PW, you we're right on and the people here live in a vacuum of denial.
Trial, the end of the road for most of our business ventures.
The health benefits knocked me out, lol.
What have they done lately anyways ?
It's actually sad that he reads this to see how his drones are doing. Rah, rah, rah as the price drops, everything is going to be great, Wait until you see what's next, the best is yet to come. All of this and more as major shareholders sell to lock in profits, what a joke.
There was too much to do & we needed to let them go, right? You let people go because they are not needed.
Hogger, they will not open a can of worms and give people here something to talk about. They we're all told to keep the information to themselves and they may get more but the information they are always given is just BS and never comes to pass anyways.
What the delusional dreamers here believe is they know something we don't. The reality of the situation they are being controlled and live in fear of the consequences of their actions. Your being controlled and you have your money on the table, does that seem like good combo?
If you have to live in fear of expressing yourself and you put money down, your going to lose your money. These guys have used the same tactic for years, the same games. You will not learn anything seperate of anyone else, nor gain an upper hand to know when to invest. You will actually be lead on to believe that the management knows what is is doing and if you follow the program and vote with them you will be rewarded. The reality is they will be rewarded and those that are close to them get information first and act accordingly.
Who do you think is buying up blocks of shares? It's a fish that's being controlled and given information and gotten deeper into this company. Then they control you even more and you become dependent on them. Plan on it spiraling into a loss eventually.
The guys here now haven't got a clue how business works. They never have and they never will and as long as they are involved, this company will devolve.
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If all of you went the SHM then why will you not let us know of the earth shattering news? We're you told not to discuss your enlightening findings on a message board or be considered cut off from future information?
It really makes no sense that your playing 5 year old child games about information here. It makes more sense that you know nothing and Hogger is very close in his assessment of how it is. We come on here as adult investors to share information and you basically say, we know something & you don't. It that a rational way to behave for an adult?
Please try to defend all posts with facts that can be verified by everyone, without verification you are talking about nothing and have nothing to offer but your delusional dreams.