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Happy Easter! Jesus rocks IMHO!
That is great! I am with you, .026 would be good, but .50 would be better ;)
Oops, I better say IMHO, could create Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Our laugh will be hardy for sure!!!
I agree, weird to say the least. Make me think even more that it is MM that don't really care of how much, as long as it is some.
To Sleepers Point, 480 bucks is 480 bucks, if you have a millions of shares as some here do, dropping 200,000 seems like a drop in the bucket, but not if you own 20 mill or so. 480 bucks every couple of weeks adds up.
As for the buzz, When you get a 13 million day it creates a natural buzz. There are many ways to create buzz
All I can say to that is, don't sell your seed to make your meal! AFTC is a Seed that will grow our food, if you eat the seed, you will never have the feast.
Today I believe is a great example of why we need to still be mindful of market manipulation. There are still those that create buzz and buy enough to make an up tick, then then they dump larger amounts higher then what they bought, but lower then the ask.
We WILL HAVE OUR DAY! But, the MM are making it hard at this point.
Well, I think that too many people are stuck in the line of thought that Big Oil acts on its own. You need to realize that there are very few places in the world that Oil is not required and it is the back bone of our world economy. Baby steps will be the only way to go, unless you want to start wars and what not.
Do you know what Russia would do if the United States came out tomorrow and said to the world, "We will refine as much DME as you can buy, screw big oil!
Russia's current hostilities would pail in comparison.
My point is this. I would rather leave business in business and lets not look at DME as a Utopic Green Peace Pinko's plan for a way to walk away from the worlds economy which is Big Oil.
Lets have Big Oil do what they do well, lead the way.
Oil has some of the brightest minds in the world!
As I said, My Wife the Chem E. was in big oil for a long time.
:)
To quote one Bill Clinton, ' It's all about the economy Stupid".
I think that the fight is not against "Big Oil". The fight it to get Oil Companies to see that the largest source of DME on this earth right now is Natural Gas.
DME is a bridge fuel. It can help the Oil Companies transition from what they have to a Bio Fuel all with the same Fuel, DME.
It is a win win for Oil.
1) Refine DME from there own NG reserves. It still burns 90 cleaner out of auto no mater where you get it from - Big Oil looks responsible.
2) Develop better ways to refine Bio DME - IE Algae. - Big Oil will again look responsible.
No brainier, A Chemical Engineer I am not... But my wife is!!
I know you will think I am being an a@! in asking, why do you think that?
I truly want to know.
Its cold in the D.
GM AFTC
great idea!
As we have seen, A Jim update and the updates we are getting now are not the same.
I am hoping for the best, but that was a heck of a list sleeper has and is expecting IHHO.
I am fearful of this board making investors feel that we are pump and dump.
There are those that are buying and dumping on this board based on what gets posted here. That is a fact, I have heard this from others that have checked us out.
All we have is track record.
I am weary of positive AFTC 100% of the time posters. It leaves no room for objectivity. Now I have gone the opposite route and have been more neg over the last 8 months. But this is only because I feel we need some kind of counter balance that is not saying AFTC is a sham, because it is not a sham.
I hate being the negative counter point, but if it brings objectivity and better posts, and draws peoples opinions our in a deeper way, I will keep doing it.
Also, I AM GETTING BOARD!!
LETS GO AFTC, GIVE US A NEW TRACK RECORD!!!
Well if that is the case and we take this statement as is... Why are we even waiting for news? See you 45 days from the last day of the fiscal quarter.
"Updates and financials will be posted on our website within 45 days following the end of each fiscal quarter. This is a requirement for reporting corporations. AFT is a non-reporting company, but will adhere to these standards".
This can be read 2 different ways.
1) We will get an update at time of financials
2) We will only get updates at the same time as financials if there is anything to update.
As I said, I will concede that we may get an update at the same time, but this statement does not promise anything, it only lays the ground work for when they will give us news if they want to give it at that time.
IMHO - AFTC is saying that we should only expect news (updates, does not count as news I suppose) at a certain time if they decide to give an update, no where in this statement does it say that they HAVE to give us news at this time.
Either way, I think that we should not clamor for news until 45 days after the FQ.
QUESTION: Did sleepers first response indicate a date for the end of FQ? I will watch with baited breath hoping that SLEEPER IS RIGHT! Trust me, his rosy outlook is what I want to happen.
If we get more then financials at that time, I will shun myself from the board for 2 week ;)
I have seen many educated guesses over the past 5 years concerning AFTC, only a few have come to pass. Unfortunately one of them was that Jim might pass before his product hit production levels. (I am sad that this was the case, he had a heck of a product that will change fuel consumption IMHO).
I think that it dangerous for anyone that wants to invest in AFTC to assume that we will get more then financials from AFTC at the time that they give financials.
My reasons are this,
AFTC rule of thumb does not give news updates on a time schedule, rather they give this info as they deem fit. (This is not a knock on AFTC, I feel this is a valuable company, I just want to make sure those investing do so with all points of view, my point of view is from track record)
So you are guessing.
Financials is straight forward with AFTC, always has been. They give us numbers.
If there are numbers in there that can give us a clue then cool.
I don't like to get others hopes up by over speculating what we might see without specifically calling it opinion.
What DD makes you believe that all that will be "clearly" in the quarterly? The last update was said to be quarterly financials... AFTC has never given more then just numbers in there quarterly....
Do you have reason to believe that there finials will be laden with news?
Thanks.
Got it, I did see that one.
Is there an update on the horizon??
Let's hope the government wasn't trying to keep that a secret! ;)
Yep, that is also true. I'm a 5 year AFTC vet. I understand how they role.
That is all old news though, hope we hear something about phase III soon. From AFTC , not from the army. Hearing it from AFTC would be helpful.
You do understand that the 1# source of DME is Natural Gas right??
LIFE AFTC!
All good points, however, to be fair, every December for the last 4 years has been met with some type of issue that has been scary for AFTC. Even if you go back to 2009 when AFTC did not get the ARMY boat contract that AFTC did not win, and failed to tell anyone about, even though it all looked like a done deal. as always, we had to dig and beg to find that info. As was the case when AFTC stopped working with Volvo. We had to find that out from Volvo...
Simply put, AFTC is never the one to post bad new first. And rule of thumb, getting out in front of bad news is always best on a company, if you find out bad news from the company.
AFTC is a gold mine to be sure, but even a gold mine must be advertised to the right people.
I guess what I am getting at is this, AFTC in many ways is their own worst enemy.
ALSO, if I could, This is the only penny that I would ever look at as a long term investment. Most pennys are flip fodder, hence we will deal with flippers until we see something from the company that indicates to the world what we all here on this board know to be true, it is not a penny... Its a juggernaut in disguise
im not sure what it is going to take to get others to realize this is not a quick flip stock.
If we could only get the folks that are here to "hold" instead of dump small amounts here and there.
God Bless you Matt Drudge.
why would phase 3 = (valley of death)?
i has always heard that if you get to phase 3, you are in like flin.
Yep!! Well As Mondo and others have said, I think our wait is almost over. I am happy to start seeing there is LIFE at AFTC. The reinstatement and the post on their webpage promising on time financials can only mean they are trying to get there house in order.
I hope we hear some contract info soon.
Prob had a R/S, but even though. 19 bucks. That is why I am not even going to consider selling for anything less the 1.00.
Here is what is interesting to me...
2004 AFTC $19.00
even in 2006 trading above $2.00
And its not over yet.
I can't wait to see the faces of those that get left in the dust on this.
and then the dump. Man I can't wait until we get past these dumpers.
POSTED ON AFTC WEB SITE
http://www.altfueltechnology.com/files/statement_3_31_14.pdf
For the Newbies
https://www.facebook.com/AltFuelDMEAFTC?ref=hl
Help me get the news out folks!
Here is the AFTC unofficial Facebook fan page. LIKE and share!
thanks Fiat! I have seen them on Facebook as well. I ll see if i can send them what i think. DME looks like it could be one of the Big E's to me.
what do you all think? about $350,000 put into AFTC, not a bad day. Something is up.
Let it GO NITE! You can not keep us down forever!
LIFE! RENEWAL OF AFTC!!