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hey sterl...was just giving info to address what seemed to be you indicating you expected something already, but didn't hear that some other actions were needed to be accomplished next week..
take care,
hi sterl.....some info from another poster on ptel divi delivery
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Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:59:47 PM
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Just spoke to Malu at Pacific stock transfer and she informed me that they are in process of collecting all the certs for the 1 for 1 dividend. And she gave me a ball park ETA of the certs to be deliverd to the company by next week. Once the company has the certs for the shares, it is then to be distributed to the shareholders!!!
some info from another poster on ptel divi delivery
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Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:59:47 PM
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Just spoke to Malu at Pacific stock transfer and she informed me that they are in process of collecting all the certs for the 1 for 1 dividend. And she gave me a ball park ETA of the certs to be deliverd to the company by next week. Once the company has the certs for the shares, it is then to be distributed to the shareholders!!!
imagine that's all about the "intro music" enti ceo has used before with his podcasts...
ah...i see, cj, could be related to another "smoke" reference..
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**my thoughts are what i told somebody who asked earlier today:
company has done a f/s, to address, IMO, what mgmt feels to be a problem with manipulation/shorting/etc. (please note: i'm not expressing that I myself feel this..i'm saying, company mgmt has taken this step, IMO, to address what it feels as an issue with how brokers/mms/others are handling shares of enti). the move was done superquickly, without much notice...wasn't about selling shares, imo, at all.
last time, enti did spike, significantly, with a f/s move.."D" designation..for some reason....(being prepared for that is my "order of the day" now).
company has to have shares avail for f/s, and that may require expansion of s/s.....
accounting for increase above what would be needed for f/s: to have shares to sell, to sell to institutions for cash, maybe (those institutions that then sell shares when everyone's crying "company selling shares" incorrectly)....
also...to have shares to do business, make deals, etc.
cash isn't abundant, no secret, with this or just about all small companies...
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what i think, is above, and below...it's not about emotion/feeling....that's why "comfy" is okay feeling, it's mathematical, and then i feel comfortable keeping my bet on things...
time and again, emotions/feelings were screaming "dead", going nowhere, etc...never to return...those were wrong...
reasonable to say could be okay around here again? sure... why not? cuz of x, y, z? oh, okay, x, y, z were the reasons it wasn't supposed to be alive by now at all..
ptel/mmx/enti/roar, whatever... "we'll see".. that's what i think, and feel too :)
distinction: opportunity to exit means, as i outlined, one had the chance to exit...
i didn't say "great opportunity", or "super awesome profit opp"..
the opp to exit was, in fact, there, with scratches, scars, whatever.... or with profit... (some did flip 1's for 2's over past days)...
each has contextual view though, naturally...and i "get it" in terms of dissatisfaction.... just about how one handles things, IMO.
harvard: you probably should direct questions like that to mgmt...
info avail on their websites and given out in PRs too..
I'm sorry aka..i was communicating with harvard who was asking me questions that seem answerable from mgmt....
if you're telling harvard not to bother, you should probably write him.
you should write the CEO with those questions....
maybe some info comes back on podcast CEO indicated was coming this evening...
i'm not saying "good", i'm saying.... it's an announcement, and people can gauge their level of comfort, or desire to exit, etc...
opportunity was there, many, many, many recent days......
and folks roll dice again, and now we'll hear about being stuck...
supportive when sitting in a gambling environment (pinks), or not supportive, are the same thing, except in terms of comfort sitting at the table....
i'm comfortable, cuz i know where i sit, i chose to sit, and i'm comfortable....
thrilled? no. happy? no. comfortable? sure.
i don't blame anyone for my choices, i chose to remain, as did anyone holding common shares right now.... exit was there...
i'm not crying when i chose my seat...
being not happy is reasonable, i get that... but context is king here... choices, and living with them. "we'll see" allows me to "allow company" to provide back to me some return.
some help understanding mindsets....
one chooses to remain, or exit in a stock, ENTI, and then gauges risk/reward scenarios, and especially being in long enough, knows how things may go, etc...
being comfy with choices makes my watching and waiting just fine..
if not working out, i'll exit, or wait for opp to exit if can't now...
"comfy" with increase? we'll see how things end up...
i'd prefer a thousand things in life and business different than what happens, but then allow for unfolding and often, things are there that one can't just see yet...
but it doesn't mean i can't assess a situation, decide if worth supporting anymore, and then be comfortable with decision... that's "comfy", "we'll see" is comfy.... "allowing" is comfy... cuz whatcha' gonna do otherwise? i'm not the spewing type, not my thing... positive mindset and drive work for me... anger/frustration, serving no greater good or otherwise helping, no thanks, not good for my health or mindset...
simple, really... mindset is what i can control in this environment... my choices: i stayed in, and i'm comfy. ez.
please though, let us know when not being comfortable helps one profit.... do some math, then play and enjoy.. i wouldn't do this if i wasn't supportive of the efforts... doesn't make sense, for me.
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A/S 30 Billion >>> new filing with Colorado.
folks can/should "subscribe" for alerts for official filings to get info like this....
as for what it ultimately means, "we'll see". In reality, if/when time comes for launch or revelation of significant advancement in projects, pps may move and volume may come... "we'll see". advancing to crossroads of "death bell blvd" and "never gonna happen street", same was said with each increase... exit opp has been around, was around, for many days... now it may be that folks are "in", but that's a choice they made, IMO. exiting, even some with loss, was possible... choice was not to exit for those still in.
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no need to wonder sub....go make a call and listen...
no..."enti" wasnt' quoted as part of the scripted speech i heard..
the speech would come with every pink stock... so you can shelf that one... thanks
sorry if came across wrong... i don't really know if tied to what was showing in preview.... www.musicmatrix.com preview that is...
really, the people working the site are in india, i believe, and could have grabbed anything, right, and put it on the pages to try things out...
and then the content of those items, if tied to something else, another degree of separation off of speculation...
just don't know, to be honest..
i'm waiting and seeing like everyone else, and of course hoping for next phases to come and have impact... believe possible and likely that next phase comes and has positive impact, but gotta hold my "we'll see" mindset, cuz if not it's a nuthouse as alternative.
peace
dg: all the speculation about "launch" or relaunch of mmx you're referencing is from investors/observers as far as i can tell...
company hasn't said this, next or week after for relaunch...
if so, please inform as that would be good to highlight...thanks.
sorry..wrong person here....
i didn't indicate a short squeeze was coming, or anything of that sort...at least i don't recall anything of that nature coming from me ....
i have on occasion referenced "shorting" and how it generally does or could occur in pinks.... but don't recall claiming things will move on anything other than speculation, marketplace buying, volume, tied to company production/news/pure speculation...
what happened the last time there was a f/s with ENTI, where the "D" got added, was that it spiked, significantly...
what caused that? could be anything...could be nothing..but it happened..."covering volume?" don't know.
so, the entirely of my fidelity/sharebuilder talk lately is focused on the apparent flexibility in trading they offered during the last spike...
we'll see how things go, if things move if/when the companies release next phases.... don't believe it's quite prudent to say "nothing will ever happen", when that's been said and proven wrong time and time again... we'll see... okay with waiting and supporting, cuz i chose to remain as did others when every opportunity to exit (selling common shares at least) has been around for many days prior...
folks working with fidelity on ptel / enti:
be sure, if you're setting up an account, or even have set up an account with fidelity, to handle enti/ptel trading... (transfers in, and buying / selling)...
that you actually call them, even after setting up and seeing account open and positions transferred...
that your account is "coded" for trading pennies... it took about five minutes tops to do so over the phone... basically, they need to read you some standard cautions ("pinks are a gamble" type stuff), then you're good to go.
folks working with fidelity on ptel / enti:
be sure, if you're setting up an account, or even have set up an account with fidelity, to handle enti/ptel trading... (transfers in, and buying / selling)...
that you actually call them, even after setting up and seeing account open and positions transferred...
that your account is "coded" for trading pennies... it took about five minutes tops to do so over the phone... basically, they need to read you some standard cautions ("pinks are a gamble" type stuff), then you're good to go.
wouldn't speak to that other stock question, but each broker will have their own policy on trading...
not really "standard" across brokers, even those who use penson, i believe some differences still remain (some still allow trading, some don't)...
but overall, i believe currently, many, many brokers are trading ptel and enti quite normally...
tda and zecco seem to have issues... based on my zecco experience, and others tda experience posted about on this board.
take care
one can buy and sell ptel and enti with almost all brokers...
there are a few that either won't, or charge a large fee for handling..
quick hitlist: zecco and penson related (clearing trades) brokers will either not trade online (require call-in orders, because there's significant charge for handling)....or they won't.
most major brokers don't have issues...
as for shorting lingo, info: you def should google and read there...plenty of good articles on the concepts..
not saying it'll be shown evident here anytime soon...just pointing to place to get info.
take care, and welcome to ihub...
what did it do to ENTI last time?
what was the cause...and what can folks do to prepare should something like that happen again?
best to learn to fish than be fed is a solid mindset..IMO when learning about trading...
but quickly, if you look into some of the discussions about brokers, some hints are there.
you are again extracting portions of time and characterizing the whole...
i'll simplify for you: plenty, plenty of people have profited off of these stocks.... and although you've continually predicted a steady and certain character (dead, never to rise, no upward ticks), you've been wrong, on all counts...
generally, pointing to a downward trend isn't that insightful... somewhat expected and predictable in pinks, almost as a certainly...but then what comes around is rising pps on occasion, and "we'll see" if we witness that again...
so, please, understand that tavy's little timeline of alpha and omega ("it's all over mantra"), isn't everyone else's.
thanks in advance.
What's the name of that company that doesn't have mgmt make decisions on the use of resources? lol
start up and company building 101... goodness, simple as it gets.
vote with your feet...but no, tavy/shareholder doesn't get to call the shots as a shareholder for day to day operations... ever...maybe run into mgmt at a meeting someday and vote there, with your feet, or otherwise
no...you don't understand, i'm afraid...
..how some business building and operations work...
..your view is somewhat simplistic regarding having a "right" to walk down the hallways, inspect, and be made aware of every plan before it's in company and public's benefit to announce or launch...
sophisticated business is never as simple as you've outlined...
takes time and experience to understand the dynamics more...
like enti no bid...you predict this one too.."we'll see"...batting zero on that front...came off of no bid against all predictions otherwise...
sure, bounce around no bid, bid level... we'll see how that goes in time... comfortable is a good mindset, cuz it's all one can do when not in control, not part of mgmt
many doubled their money on the related company already, counter to predictions that cried "run away"
sure...timeline has been around for a long time... (check my prior posts, do word search on enti board)....
much is related to MMX...and ENTI of course...
when new phases hit/come, are public, to be updated...
take care AKA,,
there are some matters which aren't of your concern...i mean, things you don't care about (L2)...
but others in marketplace do consider, weighty...
no matter, "we'll see", a casual observation of trading and timelines, doesn't really have your timeline in mind
okiedokie! thnx
yes, i get that part...it's the red "sell".... that showed i found interesting...
anyone else's L2 showing a "sell" at 2 for 720,034?
it was a buy order put in at 3's... my order placed for 3 got filled at 2, and showing as sell...
Although you don't agree with me and LA4321 that ENTI presents an opportunity to profit, to trade, to make money...
it's good that there are varying perspectives in the marketplace...
recall: enti was not supposed to ever move off of no bid..
and imagine that, it happened...
and without much being made publicly verifiable re: new projects..
so me, i tend to agree with LA4321 that ENTI presents opportunities...
my mindset is different for the most part, except that we agree that "opportunity" is there... presently.... where it goes after next phases ... "we'll see".
still investor mindset, but certainly like appreciation of quick profit potential for folks too!
yes...and as you identified, you didn't think there to be reason last time, nor this time....and yet....it happened...pps significantly increased, and volume came in..AND SOME PEOPLE COULD AND DID TRADE..AND NOT COMPANY PEOPLE... (according to board member posts, and actual trading that happened)
so reasonable for folks to think about being prepared...for not just present corporate actions and possible outcomes, but everything, naturally....
"we'll see"... comfy watching and waiting and trying to be prepared is the way to go for me, but that's me... comfy
maybe.....maybe there's no reason for a spike. what was the reason it happened last time?
i don't say it's based on normal and publicly known reasons ...
and most certinly dont say x days, likelihood of happening, etc
being prepared is reasonable imo
knowing one's brokers' practices and fees and policies is good idea imo
def something to verify directly with fidelity......
overall, thus far, theyve provided great and flexible service regarding ptel and enti and transfers of common and restricted shares in
Fidelity had no issues transferring all shares from other brokerages...
but only those that had been delivered thus far...
i will know if PTEL divi (1:1) comes over, only after the delivery actually happens with the divi ... as far as i'm aware, that hasn't happened yet.... for anyone...
once i know, i promise to share that info..but i asked both etrade and fidelity and was told that ptel divi delivery should go right into my fidelity.. "we'll see"... if any issues, i'll address then..
ive gone to fidelity.... etrade was a bad player imo for a number of reasons with enti ...ive verified independently with them directly.
fidelity transfer of positions was super ez....oh, and they accepted the prior f/s restricted divi shares...to answer that question ahead of time..
i believe, strictly based on what happened last time, that being able to trade already held and post divi "d" shares bought is prep work worth pursuing for me. dont know if action will occur or my prep work will pay off with flexibility of options
sharebuilder, im exploring but noted (in test runs) they charge imo super high fees for trading stocks under $1 if/when selling the same