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Tho rarely do I answer post, This one I'll reply to.....
My messages are for my friends: [Who know me] And have asked me my opinions, As they are new to this stock and/or are young investors who are excited about investing, and have access to very large dowries to play with. I post out-loud so that any other new/young investors can take advantage of my experience and honesty.
Also I try to relate to them that wasting money is a serious matter and should not be taken lightly Just because you have it.
Yes investing is primarily a rich man's game and an in crowd thing to do; but A game that should be respected.
Any experienced investor that hears my advice and chose not listen is fine with me as I'm not posting to them anyhow.
Best wishes in your investment choices.
I'm going to make a call as to a definitive affirmation if this is a legal scam, or an honest investment By the first of Dec. If I call it a scam- Any new investors that are sitting on the side and watching, you can take it to the bank. If I call it a scam it will be beyond a doubt a scam. I have received several emails in my private mailer to call it . Just hold on till the First of Dec.
Thanks
The outcome will be the same. This will be a dead shell to the investors when their through rising the a/s and running with the profits leaving the investors with nothing. Tho their is several ways they can do it , The outcome is still the same. Time will
SOON reveal The method they plan to scam/ripoff us all with.
If they raise the A/S again Their Junk scamming As in Setting the stage to screw all investors. and take the money and run.
Dream on , This is never never going to be anything.
Tick tock - Tick tock
If this doesn't tick tock in the next 3 wk s ; Before Dec 1st We're all getting screwed.
hummmmmmmm???
If it happens this wk without even a proxy vote being taken that's a conclusive sign that somethings not right with this picture.
But I would rather see it happen; than not to happen. Then if it happens I'd be more willing to say lets sit back and see what happens a little longer.
That's a questionable thought: Have you received your proxy vote. I know - I have not. So think about it; If we're not even discussing it with the company at this late stage in the game. hummmmmmm. If we have not even received a proxy vote form by the first of Dec. Chances are very very great and very clear, the investors are about to get screwed big-time. That along with other things ; By the First of Dec we'll know for sure . If this is a Ripoff on a Bernie madoff level, or Just a out and out screw all investors; We're making our money and running tough-luck.
Theirs a lot of unspoken questions about this thing that's sending off Red lights. hmmmmmmmmm????
Yes --Some (Granted Probable only a Few) of us have millions already invested in this crap
Because it is highly Highly Unlikely this company will ever trade on the NYSE or any other reputable exchange other than Pink Sheets. Anythings possible, Just highly unlikely. Now after it does whatever it is going to do, and Hydra takes root. Then it can be re-evaluated. That is if its not a total ripoff.
I don't know if its one unit or two . What I said was; [And from my reading] Given my interpretation may differ from yours. However that is absolutely how I interpret their pr.
Fact: Until Something is delivered and Revenue is generated Nothing is neither creditably produced nor sold. This seems to have great potential. However until something Notable is delivered its all talk and highly suspect at that. This company has a history of failures and unfulfilled promisses. So let us wait and watch for any signs of truth to develop. Granted- Again I say /// If mgn is on the level (and That is soon to be determined) This company has Huge Potential.
But just to be clear to all: Something is delivered means: Something ongoing [Not just one lousy unit] and Revenue Generated; means On going revenue. Not just one single sale.
Were still waiting for Something from the 21,000,000 proclaimed backlog to be delivered as well as The now new professed Commercial unit. And from my reading; that's only One unit - (1)period ; But on that note that would be OK as it's a start. However in reference to the 21 million proclaimed backlog were watching and waiting. {Assuming its not a Scam} Good luck to All.
Fact: Until Something is delivered and Revenue is generated Nothing is neither creditably produced nor sold. This seems to have great potential. However until something Notable is delivered its all talk and highly suspect at that. This company has a history of failures and unfulfilled promisses. So let us wait and watch for any signs on truth to develop. Granted- Again I say /// If mgn is on the level (and That is soon to be determined) This company has Huge Potential.
OK!! Even tho I'm still in caution mode with ARSC , At this time I should say - IT DOES LOOK GOOD. And I'm no pumper by far.
Proceed with Caution- but It's looking good.
We'll know for certain by the First of Dec.
I agree this has a Strong Possibility of honesty and success.
We'll Know better by the First of Dec. If nothing is delivered,. another stall is in play, . etc...
It's Natural Gas or Methanol if i'm correct.
And of course thats all assuming it's not a scam.
Well said - All should read your post. Then they will better understand the reality of the labyrinth we're caught in.
However; On the flip side I must admit- This is more promising than anything we could have expected in quite a while.
Tho with this company , We learn the hard way promisses are fleeting. and Usually soon disappear
Wishing for the Best. Good luck all
No! that is Not what we have been waiting for.
What we have been waiting for is DELIVERY COMPLETED.
Not will be , expected to be deal fell through. deal postponed , should be shipped by etc... What we have been waiting for is DELIVERY COMPLETED. and Spin off results. Not promisses. We have been down this yellow brick road before.
Yes - with that I concur.
Nothings started until; Actual Delivery Confirmed. not promised on delivery, Expected delivery, to be delivered etc .
We've heard similar same old song and dance stories before.
So Until something is actually delivered; Nothings delivered.
Nothings started untill; Actual Delivery Confirmed. not promised on delivery, Expected delivery, to be delivered etc .
We've heard that same old story before.
So Until something is actually delivered; Nothings delivered.
I used C to clear my screen, and Then typed in Arsc but did not hit the Enter key; as I got very excited when I saw $4.17 sells coming up. My Bad Sorry people-my bad.
opps my mistake that was c
As of right now; That's a big if
And even tho I want to believe, I'm not setting my hopes up just yet. Investors have been let down by this company to many times. Hope but verify. then Wish for the best.
When dealing with Arsc and/or Hydrostat One learns to Trust but Verify , Trust but Verify. Then watch the time line for drag out completion. And Hope for the best
Good luck to all.
I have sent an email to the Washington liberty site. I am waiting for a confirmation on this Questionable news. I have not been able to confirm this with any other source as of yet, so we'll see. Hope its true.
Come Dec 1st, We'll all know. Assuming this is not a scam and Assuming that possible imaginary news about production is not another one of its big con jobs.
Cause right now It does not look good and it's looking worse with each passing day. but till then im not ready to call it. At this time - All I can say is .... It's not looking good.
I take all that back ; I'm not dumping at .0002 . I just got a little taken with that erroneous degrading statement about the the President.
Then if its lucky enough to get dumped, then I'll attempt to dump another half million at .0002 and keep going until i can get all 510,000,000 dumped if I'm lucky and; IF this so called forest of a company is not a Scam that is.
Of which right now It does not look good.
That's all right if they take my message down and leave up an erroneous message untrue about the president up . Theirs plenty of other boards to post it up on as i wait for a little over half a million bag holding shares to dump at .0002
Production without delivery is bogus. They are both of value , However; One without the other is stall action, and more fake out scamming.
I wouldn't make a big deal out of the .0008 thing right at this time. Because it's a trick MM's have used many many times to get a stock moving by posting a fake sale to get new and old investors to recommit so as not to miss the boat to say. then shortly afterwards the stocks drops or goes back much lower than it was to die. Its their last ditch effort of make some fast money.
Mind you; I'm not saying thats whats going on in this case But what I do know is - If it really went to .0008 (and it did not) I would have known about it and many many .0002 orders would have been filled. Now it could have been a sertain type of insider trade, that would not reflect on the high and low buys.
All we can do is wait. But what we do know it was not an investor buy. more like a fake out mm move.
Plus Porches are not all that great. They give me Poorrrrr Gas mileage. Altho the 2010 2dr coup looks sweet.
Maserati's on the other hand--- varoommmmmm
But that's just my opinion.
Yes, They are trying to get out at .0002 - But if their is any validity in this stock the New Europeans and German stock buyers will eat through the .0002's like butter.
Watch Forbes and Fisher they'll give us a hit as to the flow of things.
Since the ice is already out . I'll say it YES I heard a rumor that News Will Be Out This WK also. So Their must be some validity in it if we both heard it. Lets hope so