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excuse my pessimism, but this is ridiculous. Why the hec is this still dragging out?? Can anyone rationalize this?
The market is soaring right now, people are getting a bit more confident, why the hec is PGPM not releasing any infor???
hey everyone...I really hope the market doesnt affect out PGPM chances? It cant help it!
morning everyone, does no one else find it funny that earl emailed the CEO of a company at 9:13 and got a response at 9:15?????
Unless that email was sent earlier, I find that really odd.
Masc if its not filed by then, what are we to think?
Earl, dont say that you will just be letting yourself down. At this point, I am hoping that we hear news.
My biggest fear is that this continues! That by Feb 2009, we are still going to be waiting for the "the next release" or whatever it may be to make this stock sky rocket. That is by far the worst.
If we dont make money on this, you know what -fine, but let us know about it, roughly around the time you say. I understand that no timeline is definite, but 2 months later? From August to late October?
I hate to bash, but just vetting frustration - no is a buying oppurtunity and i have a good amount of money tied up in PGPM. I just wish sometype of result will occur, relatively soon.
I skimmed it, as work is pretty hectic today, so I may have mis-read; downside up said .0012, is that all we are looking at? I bought at .0008, so yes i would make some money. But dont many of you own at .006 or so? Wouldnt you be losing money at that valuation?
I hope its more than that...I truly do.
yea i thought about that too, but to make alot of money in this market right now, you need to 1) have alot of extra cash, atleast 50 grand and 2) be willing to risk it in this market. Not sure about you guys, but that is certainly not me...so hopefully after this PGPM buyout, we maybe able to play this market!
its kind of weird having this board so quiet...any comments from anyone??
why would anyone bid at .01, if no news was released...?
is the 10 to 1 slip he refers to the 10-K?
If not, he last said he was waiting for the 10-k to be filed, this is a bit weird? Was it already filed?
so...this board quieted down pretty fast...
I guess there isnt much more to talk about, we just have to wait.
anyone notice ACLE is up 46%? What do we make of that, with very little volume too!
I hope for good news as well...or atleast hope to see they filed the 10-K, we can check for that, right?
While I am no Warren Buffet, I do believe in 'investing in minds' and established business, I bought AIG when it dropped to 2.00 and it went up to about 6, now its back down below 3. If and when the market goes up, it will too; so the point of my post is, all these mega-companies that have shares plummeting, if you have extra cash, buy em. They will move back to what they once were, or atleast higher than they are now.
yea sorry Masc, I was referring to downside up's 8215 post. Hey any hope of hearing something soon, makes me somewhat excited!
why do you think that because there are no trades going on, we will hear sooner than later??
bailout voted down in the house....im guessing markets will suck, and even though were a pink, it cant be good for us.
Masc, my question was not intended because I am planning to take action - I work in the market a bit, i know the assumption of risk and veils of protection. I was trying to gauge whether or not Pinedo would make such a false statement, because if there was recourse mechanisms for the investors, then his optimistic statements are mot probably correct or genuine. If not, then - who knows if he has any incentive to accurately reflect his company...
Lazlo, I was thinking the same thing. I know in my work experiance, I have never seen a CEO answer investors or anybody for that matter so quickly. So it makes me think he is keeping investors optimistic for some reason...That just happened to strike me as very odd and disturbing.
However, if he is in fact writing this, and this thing goes south, cant he be liable for making false statements? I could be totally off, but for him to say that we will be happy, with knowledge that bad things are coming, cant he be sued?
Man I dont even know what to think. This board is great but there is too much analysis of the numbers and unknowns. Lets zoom out and look at the big picture, things that strike me as interesting:
* This stock has had HUGE hype for atleast the past 5 months (as long as I have been holding, I am sure for much longer) and still no action.
* The CEO continuously gives optimistic rhetoric, "edge of your seat talk" on this stock, yet again nothing has happened.
* this strikes me as odd, the CEO/President is responding to random investor emails, almost immediately...does no one else think this is weird?
*ACLE stock as plummeted to .65
So people who know pennies, how does this look? Ill admit I am new to the game and starting to think its a sham. I am not trying to bash, i am really not, nothing I want more than to make $$ off this, but I am really starting to wonder.
Thanks...
so masc you think we wont see anything next week huh?
This waiting game is a killer, I pretty much have most of my investments tied up, dont want to transfer more money into e-trade, i wish something would happen with this.
So when do people think we will hear? I doubt tomorrow, I dont think the 10-K was filed today, so today is out. Next week? When should we realistically expect to hear?
Why do you think tomorrow will be the day we hear something, is that why trading will be so high in Dark pool hours?
What are the chances we expect such a spike of a dollar???
not following what is the relation to the july 10 PR?
Man if this thing was bought back at over .10, i am not sure what I would do...ill be ecstatic if i even get .02 but, shoot anything higher would be like winning the lotto.
Ok so it seems as though most people think that a very positive outcome will result soon. Not the .30 per share outcome that I PRAY for but perhaps a .01-.03.
what is the negative outcome? the worst that can happen, realistically?
While I know this was a long shot and probably not going to happen. Is there no chance we will get some .30 or higher buy back??? I really want to stop working!
Why is ACLE dropping so badly? I thought they just announced it will become more valuable!
oh gotcha,..hey masc, thanks for all your work. I really appreciate your time and effort also your definately in tune with the penny markets. LEt us know what other pennies you like!
Man, i am pretty confused about whats going on. From what I gather, they are going to split ACLE's stock 10 to 1. ACLE, was PGPM, so therefore, PGPM is further diluted?
thanks
stock dropped to .0005, not much volume for the price tho.
what does that sec filing mean for us?
so guesses? When will this PR drop? he did say a few days, so I doubt he will wait another 2 weeks, even for his standards. It seems as though this week is it.
I recall someone did an analysis of PR's and most drop on Tuesday or Thursday??
also - when they announce the buy back is it instantaneous? or we have to wait a few months before our shares change in our e-trade or whatever accounts we use?
do you guys think that the Arcland report by gustavson and the buyback ratio PR's would drop on the same day? Would that make sense? I would assume that if the gustavson report is positive, both stocks will increase?
It would man, if this pans out to the .30 a share, man, i swear i will walk the hec out of my job the minute i sell my shares.
Does anybody have a guess on the ratio, i own 1.5 million, will they create a ration of buyback that will be like for every 100 shares, i get 1 acle share?
So we are not expecting anything today correct?
Also, if we are loading up now, wont the PR state that shares bought after a certain date are not included? Isnt there a type of pro-rating of shares, where longer held shares will have a better ratio?
Earl who told you that? you just guessing here? if thats the case, 1 mill shares would give you 500,000 shares of ACLE @ 1.25 a piece! Plus the dividend?
I think we need to do ourselves a favor and stop dreaming...BELIEVE me i want more than anything to make about 500 K on this and walk away, thats probably not going to happen!
at best, we will get .02 and thats still about 20 grand for a million shares...I think we need to temper our expectations, so we are not let down
if it goes to .30, lets all go to Vegas and have a great weekend...
Let me ask - say they announce a buy back at whatever amount for arguements sake lets say - .1; does that mean the share price will immediately move up to .1?
And when everyone sells, will it just go back down? So if you dont sell in time, then your SOL?
I only have a million shares...should get more. But do think there is a cut off date? ie. if we purchase more now, they are not eligable for a buyback.
Also, when they announce, do you think stocks sill spike and then drop back to current levels, so if you dont sell at the right time your outta luck?
Thanks for all your advice people...your keeping me strong with this thing! Ill keep holding on...hopefully we will hear something soon!
Thanks again
This dam stock dropped again .0005, I have over a million at .0008. This is BS, whats going on, should I just wait for it to tick back to .0007 and sell?
I am starting to think this is all a sham...