I got your message coop. No reply at the moment. I cant pm, but i hear ya.

Low volume. People are holding onto their positions waiting for the increase in share price. No increase in OS as reported earlier. One share bought/sold can drop the price or drive it towards the sky. Without volume and active trading, you wont see any consistency in the pps. I still believe it'll move up over time. All my opinion, of course.

I got the freebie version and cant pm back, thanks for responding. There are a lot of interesting courses of study that dont boad well on the employment front outside of teaching and acedemic research. I have a brother who went to Rennsalear under grad for electrocal engineering then went to UM Medical. He's been able to apply his engineering skills to medicine, is a tenured prof. Does research and is published frequently in the amj practices medicine though he cant operate anymore due to results of an illness, but has been consistently employed. God love higher education.

I dissagree. I think it was a great pr. We've (including me) have been yelling to hear something. He told us the reason he structured the debt the way he did, that its not all absorbed leaving a nice cushion, keeps hackets operating and confirms negotiations are alive and nearly complete. All pretty good news, in my opinion of course.

Out of curiosity, what kind of employment does that give you besides teaching? (I'm not making fun, honest curiosity).

I think we're up for a double whammy of good news. Kind of the one two punch we're waiting for. The 10q is due out over the next 2 weeks which should include the holiday performance and we should also get an update on the new aquisition Tom said this morning should close within a matter of days.

Im usually the pain in the rear in these matters, im glad coop said it. Ill just second that thought. We'll know something soon enough. One way or the other.

Yahoooooo!!Weeeeeeeee!!!! Aaasgh!! Man, that was a fun trip!!!

Thanks Pnew. I'll save it and look at it when I get back from work, about 12 hrs from now. Y'all have a great day and good luck. Hope we see green territory today. Ive got a good feeling. Might be a terminal case of denial, but Im going to enjoy it while it lasts. See y'all on the flipside.

Thanks rpt, I appreciate the education. I still have no idea what Im looking at, but it does remind me of my first snow ski trip many moons ago, (think downhill). I took to the course to experiment on my own as the instructors had all gone home for the day. I triped and fell, learned how to put one ski on while sliding down hill on the other and swatted the dirned 5 year olds away who were doing pierettes around me without poles. Finally learned to keep my balance and slide down hill but... didnt know two things, one, I was supposed to tac (zigzag) to control speed and two, how to stop, so doing what felt like 70 miles an hour and fast approaching woods at the bottom, I could only stop by falling, blinded by the snow I was kicking up as I went down. I came out of that so bruised up and battered and bleeding and.... I never had a better time. Someone yelled down from the ski lifts hey jerk, where'd you learn to ski?! I yelled back, MIAMI!! (no snow in Miami, I water ski, not the same). Next time I went back, I took lessons, but it has never been as fun as that first clueless, reckless adventure. Strangly, investing in swvc is giving me that same feeling again. hmmm, I must be having a midlife crisis, bring in the trophy wife!

Drinking cuban coffee without the sugar is like drinking a virgin rum and coke. It's just not the same.

Kewl, I have no idea what you just said, not being a chartist here...but thats a really nice bike.

Nu uh. Not me. I just had my columbian roast coffee and will soon make my cuban coffee. Think expresso with more sugar than a cuban cane field. If you're still confused, think fuel for an F-16. Im not even cuban, but I make it better than anybody here in S. Fla. Bien venidos e meeeyahmiiii! I am waay too happy for this time of day. Sick!!

Top o the mornin to ya and welcome back to the world everybody as this giant satellite of an orb rotates into the sunlight bringing a new day and new possibilities. What - will - happen - today?

(Yeah, I just made that up. Man, don't cheery morning people just frustrate ya?)

That's my point. There's an implication that there could be something there, however, all it does is feed into the rumor mill because we dont know what the point of his answer is. He may have answered knowingly or it could be a brush off. Becuase of its vagueness, it could be read as anything. If people bought based on that post believing its some kind of confirmation and it turns into something else, or if there are some kind of implications to the negotiations becuase word leaked out, there could be a liability there, somewhere. Im not an atty and Im not attempting to give legal opinion here, just my personal opinion that it probably wasnt a good idea to post it. Theres a reason the aquistion prospect has remained unnamed.

I agree, it's vague but I think it steps close to a grey zone. Even if its by insinuation that there's something going on, there might not be a legal issue, but could step into an ethical issue by either his firm or Seaway. Just my opinion. He didn't confirm or deny any relationship, just said not that I know of to a point blank question. The posting of the email though is an insinuation that theres something there. We don't know this. 8k to follow. Someday. All my opinion, of course.

I dont know about that. Dangerous territory there posting that. He may have no idea what you were inquiring about and responded honestly, "Not that I know of." He may have no clue what North Country is. If he did know and responded, he may have violated confidentiality laws. CPAs, Attys and such are forbidden from disclosing unauthorized information to individuals or companies not directly involved in any given transaction. Careful kgeezy. I wouldnt want to see someone get in trouble over this.

Has he confirmed unambiguously that there are negotiations between Swvc and NCH?

Uh, kgeezy, who is Thomas Fisco and what relationship does he have to all of this?

Its sinking because of lack of confidence. Ill tell you one thing, even on positive news, there is only so far this will run between prs and filings. In the interims, itll meander like its doing now. If we get a pr on an aquisition now, it might run up to 1 or 2 cents as it did with hackets and wisebuys. If this sinks to the .005s, you might only see a run to where it is now. We're going to need a string of positive news to w/i a short period of time to jump start this on a slow northward climb. Might even be worth it to avg out untill it reverses and come back in later, of course risking the loss of a short run on news. All my opinion of course.

Dow wins!

Rolling On theFloor, Laughing My Arse (a__) Off. Also, rolling on the floor laughing my fat a-- off.

Hunt for red october, one of my favorite movies.

From your mouth to Gods ear, or at least from your mouth to Tom's ear (for the athiests out there), I hope youre right. The shareholder letter was very encouraging in January. The offsetting difference is the change of comunication since. Tom set the precedent early on by not only his official comunica's (s?), but his easy accessability(s?) by a few on this board. What's become troublesome for some (me included) is the change in accessability mixed with the lack of update to what was in the shareholder letter almost 2 months ago. The only thing we've heard since is that there has been a change in accountants with a dispute over what some would call a boiler plate reference to whether the company will survive and another pr about a debenture and warrant that will dilute the stock in the future. Now I agree with you, if all comes to fruition, this is a rocket waiting to take off. The 10q is due within 2 weeks. The 8k just released is basically the equivalent of a refinancing of already existing debt, as best as I can make out, (not a pro here) Not neccesarily a bad thing. But we don't know when/if any updates will be forth coming from the shareholders letter. It could be tonight, go check and see if its there yet. Could be tomorrow, next week, next month,6 months, next year. Face it, we're all here becuase we have faith in Tom, and not becuase of the sec filings. Tom made his reputation from his comunication skills. It would be more encouraging to see that continue. The longer the silence goes, even hardlined and fastened self proclaimed longs will be dropping by the wayside as this follows the route of every other penny Ive watched, some now down to .0001. If I thought that was where this was headed, I would have dumped long ago and taken my losses. Silence isnt golden here. Tom should continue the trend that built his reputation, comunicate. All my opinion, of course. (God I'm anal tonight, frustrating day at work, needed to vent. Im out for a beer folks, have a good night.)

Dont assume, Jim, Im not a Doctor, just a tech. I got interviewed in the local media recently for some volunteer work I do with marine mammals. The reporter asked what I did for a living, I told him what I did and he got confused also and introduced me as a Doctor from Miami, lol. My kids and employees got a kick out of my elevated status. Okay, Im out of my gratuitous 15 posts, so this is it. Have a great one y'all. See ya here manana. Good Night.

Yeah, Im watching that one too, along with Goldspring Mining (gspg), also Laidlaw Energy group, (lleg), and Global Water Technologies, (gwtr). Swvc is still my favorite on what I see as potential alone, its just not producing as these other ones are. Id like to think I have a winner here. I did well also with Asia Global Holdings (aagh) and WorldWater and Solar Technologies (wwat), but I think those are played out. Still watching wwat though. My first penny, China Media Group (chmd) I lost my rear on basically doing what I did here, the farther it went down, the more I bought into it. Thats when I swore never to do that again. Now I try to be a little more prudent, thought that was the case here. Instead, history repeats itself. I still have faith (masochist that I am), but if this doesnt do something soon, Im not going to have a choice. Time will tell. Goodluck to all.

Problem is Jim, I, like most people here (retirees excepted) have day jobs and except for the few times a day I can check it out on my phone, I cant sit and monitor this to make a living day trading. My track record tells me it would be foolish to do, besides. Hey, my dad made a fortune in stocks, he wouldnt touch pennies if you gave him a gazzilion for free. Im not cashing out just yet, but Ive learned trading pennies is like doing options in futures. Even the pros lose big time, its just that one win that makes it all worth while. One of my patients tried to get me into sugar futures last year, if I had taken his advice, I would have lost everything. I have my retirement 401k, which is what Im counting on, this is for fun. But it would be nice to see a winner here soon.

The six month charts should say something, check out swvc against gspg. I doubled my money on that one, sold out on the peak and waited for it to drop back into the .017s. Put it into swvc to hold it thinking it was going to go back up. Nope! gspg is sitting in the .019 range, dropped today as everything else did, but I still think that one has long term prospects. SWVC just came up with a big question mark on the last 8k. Id like to think I bought in long term, but its just going down too far too fast. I'll hold out unless we start hitting 6s and 5s. Then its just masochistic to sit and watch that happen on faith alone. I'll probably still sell a portion and go back to goldspring. Im going to watch it a bit before I make that desicion, but my money's safer in a savings account right now than here. We'll see what the end of month brings.

Im 2 up on ya. Originally bought way back when it was at .04, sold out as it continued to drop, maybe 250,000 shares and bought back in around news of the merger when it was headed back up to .02, kept buying more as it dropped because hey, it was such a great deal. Im in now over 1.5 mil shares averaging .015. Ive done this before on other pennies and swore it wouldnt happen agian. Had a lot of faith in Mr. Tom S. Think I lost my A@% a little bit? Geesh! I'll hold out untill at least the 10q. After that, Im going back into gold and goldmining stocks that have been doing well. I'll give it a few months and start looking at some blue chips agian. SearsHolding should bottom out soon but I dont have any long term faith there either. All the pennies I was watching today got creamed.

Ive got over 1.5 mil. I sold a portion last week to buy something else and bought back in this morning on the drop. It continued to drop. Ive got more shares but Im not a happy camper at the moment. Now wheres my left handed bacon stretcher?

I think that filing will be a make it or break it for a lot of folks. I just want to keep seeing the volume so I can buy and sell at will, whether I flip a few shares here and there or if I want to get out. The 8k was discouraging on that point alone.

I cant PM Jim, but I hear ya.

Fact of the matter Fw, this board or any otherboard is ancellory to what goes on. It doesnt matter who pumps or bashed, the investor market is diversified enough that these boards arnt going to move it. And if you are buying and selling based on whats said here, positive or negative without reading the prs and sec filings, its downright foolish and you deserve what get on a gamble. All my opinion, of course.

Strange, ive read 3 or 4 posts from regulars complementing someone and apparently the post got deleted. Must have been good.

Hmmm, i wonder how freud and jung would appraise this matter.

I use Scottrade. $7.00 unlimited shares plus half of 1% on pennies. Ive only had 2 instances (none this year)of technical difficulties when thier systems went down but they'll do a trade by phone at their regular fee if that happens. Ive been happy with them so far.

Im usually pretty supportive of this stock and still have faith in the long term and Im still holding on, but, in the rare instances I might agree with some of the bashers, the 6 month chart does not look good. This is held on faith alone. I'd like to see it do something. Any day now...., you can do it... Ya listening...?

I'll tell you one thing as far as what the 8k had right. You're going to see a slow down in volume as the longs are holding and a greater spread between the ask and bid price, means it'll be more difficult to get your ask/bid price whether you are selling or buying. You may not have a choice but to hold right now unless you want to dump cheap. It'll create less volatility and more difficult for the flippers and shorters. Even before the 8k, the volume was starting to spread out a bit, what people thought were the end of the conversions. BTW, anyone call the TA today?

All Tom did was a debt consolidation. The debt already existed. The CDs and Warrants are restricted. We're still waiting for the follow up to the other CDs and any news of the aquisition and the financials reflecting Holiday sales. News from here out should be pretty positive. For those of you who dumped at . 007 and below, thank you, I added to my position. The funds I had sold out of for another stock, went right back into swvc. I knew people would get nervous on the news. and look at this, its coming back, and I own more shares than I did before. I like how this stock thing works, lol. All my opinion, of course.

No, but for 10 bucks, its yours.