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Smalldaddy. You are right, this has been going on for 5 months. I am not absolutely sure what will end this game playing but I do think a major carrier announcement will do it. The problem here is the major outstanding share count. There are always sellers in every stock at every price. The MM's use those shares and what they have in inventory and control the price. Even 200 or 300 million shares traded is not a big amount compared to the several billion that is in the tradeable float. But a major carrier announcement, on the other hand, will bring in much heavier volume and mostly on the buy side. When there is 700 million to a billion shares traded on the ask, that will finally force the MM's to let it go. They will resume playing their games eventually, but at a higher price level. The fact of the matter is they will always play games and make their manipulative money no matter where the price is. But most of us will feel a lot better with the game playing in the 5 to 10 cent range than in the half cent range where we are now.
Man this is tough. Great news and we just hit a new low for the day. The MM's have an absolute stranglehold on this stock.
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The buying is continuing at the ask. GVRC and Nite have to be running out of shares to sell soon.
I am with you on that. Instant credibility with a well known gay host signing on. I can't see the carriers not thinking a bit diffently as well.
Buying coming in but so far Gvrc and Nite are not moving off the ask. .0042 .0043 7x2
It says it will broadcast live from Seattle, Texas and New York. Does that mean it will have 3 seperate broadcast locations with different hosts? Plus a prominent gay celebrity as host? That could be enormous news if it is someone well known!
That is just outstanding news!
Skunksyard. It would certainly be big news if there was some sort of deal with Canada. Frank has mentioned that he is in discussions with other countries. Maybe this will be the first one. One of many in the future I hope. Sometimes we all forget it is not all about coverage in the USA. If deals can be made for carriers in other countries the combined viewing potential could dwarf what we may get in the USA.
Don't know anything about a Canada deal but vegasdave works very hard on his DD. He has been right about a few things in the past. If he has dug up something with Q in Canada then there is probably truth to it. Interesting to see what may come out.
.0042 .0043 4x2 Nice buying coming in.
Rebounding a bit. .0042 .0043 2x2
Nite still on the ask. Hope he finishes up his selling soon. Can't go up until he lets us.
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Looks like Nite and Scwb want to try the downside for a bit this morning. .0044 .0045 6x1
Good Morning pre-open Level 2 .0045 .0046 8x1
I just checked the raging bull private board and they are as upset and depressed as many here. There seems to be a thread running through the posts that the ad campaign may be a desperate act by Q to put more pressure on the carriers to pick the network up. For some of the posters the feeling is that Frank cannot get the carriers signed despite his statements each month that he has more carriers. Maybe the difference is that he has carriers interested but cannot get their signatures on the contracts for whatever reasons. With Logo launching next month it is getting real close to put up or shut up time in my opinion.
Well enough of this for me today. Time to sign off. See you all tomorrow.
GeorgeKing - You out there?
Are you still confident?
end2war. Optimism is great and you have more than I do. Yet all of us still here have optimism but of various degrees. I think it is okay to express reservations and people have them. Things seem to be progressing for Q but the stock price does not reflect it because after all is said and done, it is revenue that pushes a stock price higher. For Q that will only come with subscription and advertising money coming in. Until carriers are signed, announced and put online, then the stock price will probably stay where it is. If a half cent is all that investors want to pay for the stock right now, then that is probably fair value for it based on the information we currently have. That in itself causes concern for many investors, especially those in at higher prices. Hard to wait month after month and wait for this goose to lay it's golden egg.
Yuck!! I assume you and the Pepto Bismol bottle have been good friends watching that type of profit depreciation. And you are right. All the good things the company is doing is useless without carriers.
Honestly it is easy to be a long when all you invested was 140 and it is now worth 8 thousand. There are some here that are down many thousands of dollars. I know a guy on the raging bull board who is down 32 thousand. His fault for investing so much? Sure, to a point we all have to take responsibility for our investing mistakes. However, Frank has to take some responsibility as well. You remember all the hotline comments? Things are great at Q! Carriers will be announced very soon! Advertising program will begin shortly! etc, etc. That type of constant comments from our CEO kept people in the stock and buying more at much higher prices. It also probably stopped some from selling and cutting their losses or even turning a small profit.
The moral is if you still have a profit it is much easier being a long. If you have a loss it makes it much harder,especially when the stock continues to go down each day no matter the progress the company says it is making.
This is not a bash either towards you or anyone else. It is just a statement of facts as I see it.
5 weeks until Logo launches. That makes me a bit nervous. I doubt they are having as much trouble getting carriers lined up. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that first to market with this type of network is going to have a huge advantage.
Nite can be a pain in the butt. He usually can steer the stock to the price he is looking for. Right now he wants .0044.
Good point. I guess, for most of us, we just continue to hold and see how it plays out. There must be a master plan at Q headquarters. We just don't know all the details. The day is still young. Lets see if something else does come out to support this advertising campaign. In the meantime it looks like the stock continues to trend down a bit.
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Skunksyard. I have considered that as well and it has merit. The gay/lesbian community should demand their own station with programming they would find interesting. But that niche will be filled by someone eventually. There is already Heretv and it appears logo will launch as well. This underserved market will be served as the gay/lesbian community will demand. The carriers will have no choice but to put this type of network on their schedule eventually. The point here is will it be the Q?
There is a lot of posts today about the ad being great and it a big step to get national exposure to this company. But without carriers to call and subscribe to then the benefit of the ad will be short term. Those interested will call their carrier and request the Q and will be told it is not available to subscribe to. The cable companies will, of course, document how many calls they get and it surely may influence them on whether they may carry it in the future. However, without massive and constant calls they still may decide not to carry it. The ad will get them calls in the short term but that will die out as the potential subscribers call once and then don't call again when they find out they can't subscribe.
I guess what I am saying is this is the perfect time for Frank to announce what carriers he has, if he has any. The ad will bring requests to subscribe that should be fullfilled for the most part. If he does not have any firm contracts with carriers then this is nothing more than another attempt to influence the carriers to pick this network up. It certainly should help in that goal but it is still disappointing if they cannot get them signed after all this time. I will assume each carrier has had plenty of time to view the programming and evaluate it's quality and the potential it would have for the carriers' lineup. If that would not make them pick the network up then I am not sure what will.
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.0049 .0050 1x4. Nite on the ask.
Well I am happy that the advertising campaign has begun. It should raise awareness in the general public and the investing world that there is a new network available besides Logo. It should get some new investors to give the stock a look. Although there is no mention of an additional carrier it is still possible a pr could come out today or in the near future in regards to that. When you think about it, it really would not be right to put that in an ad before you have a detailed pr put out on which carrier and which locations it will be offered. No point in just putting in "call Comcast" without telling which cities it is offered in.
Nothing on level 2 yet although it is still way early.
Boy I hope that is not the case. We should not have to pressure our cable carriers to consider carrying the Q. I don't know if it would work anyways. It is the content and quality of the programs that should attract cable carriers.
With that to offer each carrier should be easily able to attract subscribers. I just can't believe that is what the ad would be about in USA today or any of the gay publications.
Makes perfect sense to me. No point in spending a million dollars to get subscribers to RCN or to prospect for subscribers that can't get it on their local cable system. Don't know if they will announce a carrier or if it will be Comcast but it does make sense to do so.
skunksyard. I agree that it is for Qtn to decide if what he is posting is wrong If he is posting information that they do not want posted or have any problem with I will assume they will contact him and set him straight. If they don't contact him then maybe they just don't care what is posted on this little message board. You have made it extremely clear that you do not want Georgeking posting his "inside" info on this board. I don't think you need to continue to defend your position. I, and everyone else, completely understand it by now. Some of us just simply disagree with you. You should accept that. As for Dmuse I think he just got tired of all the crap that came from his posting, just like Nobull on the CBS board and now georgeking on this board. Too bad when a little "knowledgeable information" can't be posted because of the personal attacks it brings on.
That's it for me today. 3rd and last post allowed. I am sorry that my 3 posts had to be wasted on this subject but I feel strongly about it.
Well. That is your opinion and your feelings on the matter. Others disagree with you. But it really is up to Georgking to post or not. As I did this morning I am sure he has or will read the posts in support of him as he did those against him. I would just hope that if he does decide to post occasionally the posters who don't like it will accept the decision of the majority here who do. His posts, of course, do not need to be opened, read or responded to by those who dislike what he says. Not looking to pick a fight with anyone on this issue. I am new here and only have 3 posts per day so I couldn't anyways. But this is a public forum and people should have the right to post what they want without being run off the board by some that may not like what is posted.
Just got finished reading all the posts from last night till now. Looks like the overwhelming majority of posters want Georgeking to stay and continue posting what he hears. It also looks like only 3 or 4 posters are still in the negative camp that he not post. So the board has spoken Georgeking. Come back if you still want to. It is up to you of course.
I agree with you 100%
Unfortunately in every stock there are always leaks in the system. Usually the little message board posters are the last to know. The big boys know before us and take positions one way or another way before we find out. So, if we find out a little afterwards that something may be coming then I, for one, appreciate it. Gives us something to look forward to if it actually comes about. If not, then so what. Georgeking posted Comcast may be signed. I have not seen the stock move at all today on that "leak". All just my opinion of course.
My First Post on this site. Pretty good discussions and not too much fighting. Regarding Comcast, it is a no brainer. If Q can sign them this network will be on it's way. The other carriers would all fall in line and the satellite carriers would have to rethink there stance as well. All that would be left for very nice investor returns over the next couple of years would be for Frank to continue to buy back shares and reduce the float. I think by 2006 we could all be very happy.