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hahahahahaha i doubt it superman, I have cupboards, and cabinets full of everything MP except Battle Fuel and Bullet Proof, as I do not need a test boost, and my zma works just fine!
Anywho, I will be ready to rock an roll Monday morning, looking to sell what I picked up under .03 on that last dip pending a nice early spike like usual..
Thank you for that Wecap.. also I don't understand why they are giving Dakotaben so much crap and calling him a short?! lol wow....
I for one make it a point to read all of Dakotaben's posts, as well as neuronal, odessa, Jwblue, wecap, DrStock, John, and all of the other longs here... yes I even enjoy reading from Codie! lol it was all good productive arguments..
double sticky here...
read the to previous posts in this order to understand what I am trying to say ...
FIRST http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73708054
SECOND http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73810239
It has to do with possibilities for why increasing the A/S, also why they bonused themselves common shares if they could just give themselves money instead and not deal with filing for insider trading.
Also I believe I read a couple days ago that someone mentioned the possible increase in A/S is to prevent hostile takeover....
Any thoughts on these points from any of our NEW longs here?
Also I must say Dakotaben, you are absolutely right, all of the repetitive nonsense is annoying especially when you see the you have to go back 2 pages to start reading.. only because you dont want to miss any good points, then you end up reading the same thing about 25 times from 5 different people!!!
Anyhow, Dakotaben, you have taught me alot on this long ride with my first stock, and i honestly hope you get the opportunity you are looking for to jump back in and ride this to the top with us!
Not sure if anyone has responded to this due to my main iHub MSLP page will not load for some reason.. Anyway... I have my long term position already set @$.0111 , I will not touch that, its buck or bust buddy lol
As far as the penny pushers are concerned, from what I can tell they jump in on the momentum.. soo in a way having them here could be a good thing.. these guys will buy and sell for the short term gain, and I believe Hotstockace even mentioned that he picked up 750k shares.. and intended on getting about 1million shares to play the long term...
I personally am not to worried about the penny pushers..
as far as the dips are concerned, i think everyone is pretty much agreeing on the fact that the only reason the dips are occurring the way they are is due to everyone that shorted this stock is trying to manipulate it down to reduce their losses... as i stated i have my long term position set, but when it dips i'll buy in and play the short term every now and then.. I bought in on the dip down into the .02's the other day, and I already made my money back and a nice profit so i'm playing with free shares for all of my short term plays..
I do .. hahahahahahahaha
I wish there was a like button for this post lol
we already know the prelims for last year... 8mil qtr4-11, with 2011 $21mil for the year.. and they have already stated they expect an operational loss due to derivative financing..
personally i'm not worried about the year end or 4thquarter being negative thats already factored into the pps in my mind.. unlesssssss!!! it shows some sort of profit..
for me personally the pivot point is the qtr1-12 earnings
Drew Cicceralli or something like that owns the MP sports apparel... check edgar online sec filings
(edit) i think this is the case.. i believe I read this somewhere.
If you click this link I believe we fall under "non-accelerated filers"
http://www.secfile.net/SEC_calendar.htm
yeah thats what it looks like.. Also who knows, maybe they can have their final numbers put together for qtr1-12, and do a year end on monday and then a qtr1-12 tuesday to send this thing to outter space..
Seems like they have this thing pretty well planned out.. with the PR's and what not...
A/S have been at 2.5billion for months... Click my name And read back my posts... I address the a/s as best as I could
With that being said... What do you think is a good top pps with the info given...?
bulldog2... did you get my response from our yesterday conversation? check my posts.... i tried lol
Neuronal, I have almost a million shares for the long and will not touch them for anything less than $1.00.... I would be willing to lose it all for that gamble.. with everything they have going on and the last 2 PR's we are out of the doghouse and on our way to the frontporch... I will also be buying shares on the dip all the way up, to sell at future highs... Screw the MM's, if they are reducing their losses, i am going to improve my profits!!!!!!
Isnt qtr4-11 for the most part already factored in at the current pps, with prelim results of 8million and 21million for the year.... my question is.... are we still going to see a negative impact off of the qtr4-11 due to still having the toxic financing.... if so then that turns the qtr1-12 financials to the pivot point...
yeah ... woops... musclemilk is by CytoSport... not Musclepharm... whoever writes that newsletter needs to use the google feature on their browser lol
how about they sell "MuscleGel" not musclemilk...
Question.. With 31 March being on saturday, do they have to report their earnings on friday or are they allowed to wait until monday without an extension?
sounds nice lol be sure you set up a spot for a private mp shareholder party so we can all dock our yachts lol
we're on the move people!!!!!!!!! starting to get a bigger smile after my buy this morning on the dip!
for what its worth.. this guy Brad just commented on the post... he's not an employee but I would say he is more in the know than any of us...
http://www.facebook.com/musclepharm/posts/10150693875508476?notif_t=feed_comment
writing on the wall....
Can't use it all in one week! :)
if a positive PR hits its going to blow the lid off this thing.. volume will be through the roof.. like yesterday.. MM's won't be able to keep up, they're taking advantage of this stall in PR's ....
every time you see 5,000 on the B&A its the MM's not showing their true hand, thats only like $160 bucks..... it would have to skyrocket to make money off this amount of shares after trade fees.
Neuronal, I don't think there is anymore "moving" towards cash positive... I think we are already there, if we weren't then I don't think they would have issued that PR stating thats what their goal is, and the deadline being 3 days away...
They already know they reached it, so they release the primer PR and a positive financial will be out today or tomorrow.. imo..
Also, if you look at my posts from this morning I attempted to answer yalls issues with the additional 1.5billion shares totaling 2.5billion.. lol ATTEMPTED!
Ohhh and i'm still long, but if the MM's are going to reduce their losses by making us dip then i'm going to increase my profits by playing it as well.. picked up some more under .03.. probably sell into the postive financial spike!
can someone post some L2's to show the MM's holding it down..
got mine under 3cents :)
I've got a good long position, now just playing off the MM's covering their shorts lol
theyre trying to covert their shorts
Bulldog2, I think that at this point with no more toxic financing and these guys holding hundreds of millions of shares each they are attached at the hip with the share price. With that being said, a R/S now to move to a bigger exchange, could be a good thing. It will attract more common share investors, as well as large company investors(banks, or lines of credit, not to sure what the correct term is here).. everyone will have the same worth, just less shares.. a R/S in my opinion will stall the stock a little if not make it dip until another round of positive PR's are released showing everyone these guys are for real... If they do a R/S to uplist and begin to dump again, I believe that would be the last straw for many investors and the stock will plummet, as it will show bad financing... seeing as we are supposedly operating on cash flow starting this qtr1-12... RIGHT NOW! woo hoo lol
Now comes the thought of,"they do have 2.5billion authorized, and we are only at 1billion on the market"....... i woke up this morning with a fully formed thought for why the 2.5billion, and theres not supposed to be any more toxic financing.. not sure how i formulated this thought in my sleep but here it goes....
They each received bonus common shares in the amount of @148million shares.. if they were bonused $100,000 for every $1million in revenue growth that would be roughly $1,776,000 worth of shares @ $.012pps ... this is common knowledge we all know this.. and it comes to be about 444,548,913 common shares awarded in bonuses..
this is where I think the additional 1.5billion shares authorized comes into play.. and also when I think a R/S will happen
according to a rough history of 400% revenue growth each year, we should be around $84million in sales this year... and since the bonus shares are only measured against REVENUE GROWTH the bonus shares would only be $100,000 for every $1million in growth=100,000x63
sooooo $100,000x63 gives us 6.3million dollars worth of bonus shares each and you used the shares not on the market(1.5billion) to cover this, at price of the pps during the time of the issue of the additional 1.5billion shares... it would be 6.3m/500,000,000common shares each which comes to each share @ .0126.... This would use up the 1.5billion shares left....
This might bring up the thought of well the pps is going to rise before the issue of the bonus shares... as of now it has, and probably will keep rising but that is a variable that could not possibly be determined at the time of issue so they used the current pps to be on the definite safe side knowing they wont have to issue all of the shares out if the pps rose drastically... seeing as how they will still get there $100k worth either way, low or high pps....
Thennnnnnnnnn after they receive theyre shares for the 2012 bonus, i would suspect a R/S seeing as how they would have over 648million shares each(148million for 2011+500million 2012projected).. a R/S or buyout would be even better for them at this point...
just trying to put myself in their shoes, and make the numbers work....
Sticky post.... as it applies to this thought...
I've read some people talking about these guys dumping their shares on the market and what not, and yall talking about hoping they dont dillute.
If you look at the post I stickied you'll see that its looking these guys(3pigs if you will) own the majority of the common stock shares..... hundreds of millions of shares.. as i stated(from learning on this board) if they want to sell any of their shares they have to file with the SEC for insider trading.... Doing this would no doubtedly cause the pps to fall while everyone gets out before the shares could get dumped on the market...
follow me... heres my point..
Since they can't dump their shares on the market without alerting the market first, how would having these shares help them?... the answer is a buyout... If they get bought out only having Series B Preferred "Magic" voting shares, then those shares would be worthless(seeing as how they have no monetary value)... leaving them to buy common stock shares with their own money to get however much per share is paid upon being bought.. why do this when you can just bonus yourself a ridiculous amount?... hmmm even as I type this its becoming more clear to me.. this why they just didnt bonus themselves more money.... yeah sure they could bonus more money but their pockets to bonus out of arent as deep as a buyers pockets to buy their higher priced bonused shares... maybe theyre not as dumb as box of rocks after all...
Now that they have hundreds of millions shares, they can make a ridiculous profit upon buyout, assuming they have majority common shares they can negotiate the terms, between the pigs(correct that if i am wrong please)... this seems plausible until you throw in the wrench of 1 billion shares on the table, meaning even at $.50pps thats a cost of $500MM for this company(correct if need be), ON was bought for what...$315MM...? and MP is in the process of taking them over...!
just throwing my thoughts out there.... trying to think outside the box..
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Neuronal, or anyone else.. does anyone know of any fees with Etrade? If this goes big and I make tons do i have to worry about them? or is it a set rate of $9.99?
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Sticky back... Jwblue i'm trying to sticky back your BIG post with ALL that info from a week or so ago and cannot find it....
PR's every day till friday with a financial on Friday?! could it be?
I'm with you learning curve.. I'm avg'd at that as well.. I try to just call them out when i need an answer by putting their name as the first word in my post
Yeah definitely, i put up some numbers the other day pretty much showing that these guys are gaining majority common shares, if not already there. sooo who knows
savageinlimbo has been preaching buyout from Under Armour for quite some time now... I'm not saying its true just putting some info out
Thanks Turokman, as always I look to this board for advice... Because of all of you on here I have learned alot with my first stock, and it starting to look like its going to pay off nicely