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This is an interesting concept however on a deleted message your prediction was slightly different. You predicted this to go to 01’s but also stated that once the MM has its blood bath, this remains down for not longer than 2 months….what has changed your mind since then? Your message #21256 was right on though. I wondering who among us would care to challenge what you’ve said in this more recent message or shall we call it another prediction? I hope you’re very, very wrong about this but with there being a hush, hush on the TA, no one knows what EV is up to. This company is headed into its strongest season so it would be a shame if they continued to dilute to pay bill at this point. There has been talk of them drying up the AS but that remains to be seen.
I’m going to go out on the limb and say that you’re probably wrong in this case, for lack of information mostly. I don’t know that the company is still hurting for cash and you’re suggesting that because they discount these notes anyway that they’ll continue dumping at .0001? There is no logic in that unless they continue to increase the AS because at .0001 they cannot afford to keep the doors open if selling shares is mostly what they’ve got to pay bills.
Further, your prediction pretty much ignores all other possibilities that ARTS have brewing. Do you mean to tell me that the MM would or could keep ARTS down if the Picasso sold and there was a share buyback or if Rhupert was complete success? So even this new PR firm will have not influence on the PPS because the MM wants to keep ARTS down and shake the tree? No disrespect but I’m having a hard time buying this one.
You’ve not needed to pass a clairvoyance test to predict where ARTS would end up over the past 5 months. The test is to predict when it will head north and how it wil go about doing it. You’re welcomed to take a stab at it too hip.
This may come as a surprise to you but the total sum of money that people have invested here from this board is not enough to influence the PPS of this stock either way. The word bashing is used too generically on this board. So much so that it has distorted the meaning. I see bashing as more like fabricating or exaggerating for the sake of discrediting. There is no need to fabricate in this case. Label it what you will but the truth is the truth and it sounds like you’re suggesting that those who oppose anything about ARTS not speak out. Or maybe you’re suggesting that they sugarcoat it so some can lure investors with only part of the story…your part? Nope, all set with deception such as that. I’d rather they hear both sides. Oh and dude, the reason the price is down is because someone issued more shares than there were investors…Not my fault and nor is it self fulfilling on my part.
Should everyone be quiet about their investment account being down by as much as 90 or 95%? Do you honestly think that people looking into investing cannot figure that out anyway? Thank you for your permission to air out my frustrations to my friends and family but if you don’t mind, I think that I will exercise my right to do so here as well.
What I would like you to do is read my mind. No on second thought...why not try and find something nice to say or not say anything at all. These message board members have the right to air their Grievances just as much as you have a right to attack them for what it is they have to say. The difference is that they’re speaking against someone whom they feel has taken from them and you seem to be placing yourself between them and this person for no just reason except to gain attention... meddling bitterness.
Scottie I originally purchased this stock at around .06 and has used a ton of my funds to average down so, I can relate to what you are saying. Most tend to forget that the biggest investors in this company are those that were here prior to the RS and also those who purchased prior to the decline into the triple zero numbers. Well you can be certain that EV has forgotten to whom he owes the biggest debt of gratitude. People who are unable to average down a single penny are most likely screwed and EV hasn’t given it a second thought! As a matter of fact, he has been quick to tell investors who complained to him about the PPS that he is running a company and doesn’t have time to concern himself with the PPS. Now of course, that wasn’t the case while he was doing a major dilution campaign was it? As a matter of fact, he went out and hired the Dean to do a very expensive pump and dump didn’t him?
Now comes the triple zero people who have been quick to tell the bigger investor to shut up or move on because their money have been spent during the dilution phase and they’re sick of hearing them whine about it. Message board members have dug in on both sides, as well as taken a position down the middle while EV sits on the sideline, hiding behind the pro ARTS members and doing nothing. Oops, promises maybe, with little follow-up and even less accomplishments. On Friday, even the pro ARTS people begin to panic…why? Because ARTS have made promises that have not come to past as of yet.
Good men spent good money to travel to Dallas and are waiting for whatever came out of those discussion to come to fruition, now let’s see some results on the part of the company.
I feel your pain man.
Impact007 Message 26139 was the original poster...the other...who knows...maybe got it from dude.
If it is any consolation to you, I officially declare this the bottom…lol. I think this was a scary day for some but more of a relief for me because I got sick of hearing those .0001 predictions…Happy now, whoever you were? We go up from here. The MM may chose to play another game first but this has to be it. EV where are all those things you promised at the open house? You had people signing all sorts of NDA’s and you’ve not done squat! You cannot sit back and let Tom Nelson clean up your mess. No you probably didn’t dump any shares today but you sure as hell issued then to someone who dumped them.
Have any of you heard from this guy via email lately? He use to return emails all the time but now that we’re all broke he’s done with us…lol. Coming into his profit season now. Couldn’t email us enough when pinoman and the captain and springroll were dumping on his sorry butt daily.
You don't get what? That everyone here doesn't see what you see? What is there to get? People flip when they see the price go to .0001 without giving the amount that got it there a second thought. Don't worry about getting me...just give some thought to human nature.
A lot of you newbie’s must be having heart problems seeing this thing slide to .0001. Should have been here when the rest of us had to ride it all the way down from penny land. Shucks…this is nothing.
I'd actually read about it days ago but let it roll right off of my backs. I could care less about that. I just want him to get busy with moving this stock price back to penny land.
Max, you and the lion are starting to sound like me....too funny. Nothing is up guys...We're just having a bad day with our investment is all. It'll be back up sooner or later. I do think that EV could have gotten some news out rather than waiting on Tom Nelson though.
Big dump...lol. Looks like both you and the lion got some...Now we go up!
LOL...Only Tom's buddies...did you just see that last trade? Wow!
newman. 50 million @ .0002 and I bet you didn't get a share did you?
The questions were just as stated. Did anyone want to take a stab at what they thought was happening? I’ve got another idea for your crystal ball though.
I'll be surprised if you do. There something else happening here because average shareholders are not reporting that they are able to buy @ at the low prices.
AVARICIA, I really hope so for all our sakes. Today they are saying that that was very little shorting in the vol. We saw. Good sign but someone has to be selling if there is buying and no shorting right? Where did over 300 milllion shares come from to be exchanged out there? So what is it that we're actually looking at? Can someone paint a picture?
Great response amackin. You've got my attention.
Hope our savior realizes that the PPS is already at rock bottom and how it got there is due to a secrete reverse split that cost many investors a fortune and the very next day a subsequent reduction in the PPS left them with less than half their investment. And if that wasn’t enough, the CEO started dumping shares and increasing the A/S like there was no tomorrow. Even now that the stock is nearly at a no bid, that smug rat sits quietly offering nothing to console those that he gave a royal screwing. Just who in the hell did he expect to attend an open house? The open house is done and over and more promises have been made but where are they? All I can say is good luck Tom Nelson because this guy has made your job a nightmare.
“Tom said they have a HUGE following of investors and venture capitalists who will be investing in ARTS very soon”
Guess he forgot to mention that it would be some insider information so that they can steal the shares prior to him announcing anything.
He is going to have EV put a cap on the share structure and have ALL notes taken care of so there is NO MORE DILUTION (as soon as my buddies load their trucks)…LOL
Tell me that today wasn't Tom's pal's buying for cheap!
I'm sure you have Tom Nelson's buddies to thank for not being able to buy your shares at .002. They are probably buying in big blocks and will no doubt sell in that same fashion. Great job Tom...LOL
Based on a few simple verbal exchanges I’ve given you the impression that I confuse easily but you do not want to insult me? Like I said, I will leave things where they are. A reply is not necessary.
Anyone get filled at .0002 today? I cannot help but wonder if this is all a game.
I was actually interesting in hearing specifically the DD you’d done on Ten Associates or ARTS as I could not figure out to which company it is you refer, based on what you’ve said. In reading your reply, I ‘m given the impression that your DD is primarily based that of what friends has told you. I basically had questions because it sounded like you were posting your thoughts based on vicarious DD. Your reply has left me even more perplexed but I will leave it at that.
It would be one thing if the MM were filling 2's but they aren't fill dodo...LOL. Isn't dodo a funny word?
Lets just hope that don't take forever to get this PPS moving. Meeting next week means that we could be looking at or near the EOM before those guys act on anything. Nothing against Tom but EV has been dragging his butt long enough!
Good question but I kind of doubt it.
“The guys in control of this company?” I’m assuming you means TEN Associates?
“are serious investors and are going at it in several different angles”..So you’ve done DD on this company already? “Any one of them could send us to pennies”
I’m really interested in hearing what DD you’ve done.
Good morning to you as well and thank you!
How is level 2 stacking up?
Speaking of American Idol…ARTS would be wise to do something with Ten Associates and the idol contestants. Collectables from that show would sell like crazy…remember you hear it right here…LOL
This all sounds wonderful and I hope that all he is saying can come to fruition. Hope the board members don’t get too cocky and start mouthing off before anything happens. I’m very encouraged to this point.
LOL…Guess all of us Northeasters accents sound alike to you then. Big difference between an accent from Long Island NY and Boston Massachusetts BUX. Thank you very much for your persistence and DD Bux..I know I speak for all by saying that we appreciate you. This is very good information that you’re passing along to us. Now I’m sort of excited about this. Hope this guy Tom turns out to be the real deal…as is suspect that he is.
Couldn't have said it any better myself...
Thank you!!!
One of my favorite posters from another board posted the message below. Now this is what ARTS should be doing as soon as they realize that this sort of thing is going to happen. The public should find out in a PR.
RHUPERT says, "Key West, here I come"!!!!! Yes, that's right, Rhupert is opening his flagship gallery, the "Art Gone Wild Gallery" on famous Duval Street in sunny Key West, Florida. CRAZY!!!!!!! We should have the doors open Oct. 1st, yeaaaaah!
I agree that the PR should be more structured and deliberate, if that is what you are suggesting. The PR’s always address whatever it is they what to convey but seldom speak to the concerns and questions that are in the forefront of the investors mind. There needs to be more talk about milestones accomplished rather that more projects being taken on. There are still too many PR’s containing loose ends and unfinished projects. If you are reading this and do not like this accusation, then prove it wrong with solid DD. Show where arts has actually accomplished30 % of what they’ve stated in PR’s. If many of you would avoid the denial syndrome and start holding them accountable for lack of performance then I think we would see more things being completed a lot sooner.
Now before you start with the attacks about bipolarism, please realize that people who are truly on the fence will address both the good and the bad. I try to avoid having tunnel vision…and you?
Many will say “give them time” but I think that 5 months is more than enough time to figure out a way to prop up the PPS. Seems more beneficial to do a little propping between dilutions…if diluting is what has been taking place over the last 5 months. There is not logic in pretending that the PPS will fix itself, especially when you continue to print shares. Print some shares to boost the PPS while you’re printing.
Careful Scottie, you’ve not had your Kool-Aid today have you? You’re not to bring up dilution or investor confidence. One way longs can help ARTS is when you get a news letter from one of the penny stock promoters, send them a reply that suggest that they take a look at ARTS. Granted, they get paid to do their promotions but one never knows what could come from sending that sort of reply. ..LMAO I do it all the time.
All that volume and no movement. What does that tell you? We can talk it up as much as we want but there is something wrong with having such a large amount of shares traded and no movement. So what is the logical explanation? What in the hell is EV waiting on? Don’t know about the rest of you but some news would be a sigh for sore eye right about now.
For those who are interested in learning a little more about The Dean...just google The Dean College stocks.
Bob and others...below is a reply that I received to a question I asked. I will not name the poster but this should give you an idea of what was said.
5B
When it first became 10B I posted about buyback and how they made that announcement in November 2008. It is something EV would do and the reason why I think he didn't announce the increase. He will announce the decrease and The Dean will put out the news. This has been on a downward trend Since April 7th and is ready for a bounce. People say it can't happen with dilution, but they said that when it went from .003 to .014. CBAI I rode the same way.
Here is the secret. CSD has been owned for a year now. What you see in the 10Q as huge QTR over QTR loses will be no more. It will show close to even numbers. Same with net increases. Balance will be brought back to the force.