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Helps a lot...thank you!!
Where or what are the options the company have in this particular matter? I’d like you to review my post #27587 and see if that question makes any sense. EV had to have known that there would be serious repercussions in filing for an additional 10 billion shares with the PPS bouncing between .0001 and .0002. It is as if he deliberately sent ARTS an unavoidable train wreck. He knew that he was already over extended in the use of A/S but ignored that fact and continued to dump on an almost daily basis. He either had every intention of seeking an R/S as a solution or some other ulterior motive no matter what anyone thinks, I say this was all premeditated with much forethought and the outcome already scripted.
I would like to pose what might be a ridiculously hypothetical question. If EV wanted to increase the par value of his stock, could he do so with existing stock of a lesser par value in his and the MM possession or would that inventory have to be depleted to have such transaction occur?
Clearly there is a change in the par value...So what, if anything does this mean to us?
Previous Stock Value: Par Value Shares: 10,000,000,000 Value: $ 0.0001 No Par Value Shares: 0 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Total Authorized Capital: $ 1,000,000.00 New Stock Value: Par Value Shares: 20,000,000,000 Value: $ 0.001 No Par Value Shares: 0 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Total Authorized Capital: $ 20,000,000.00
Are we missing or overlooking something in this change of par value?
Thanks megladon98 as that was a question I had as well. In reading your answer, I'm thinking that maybe there is some hope for ARTS after all. I've been having a hard time thinking a stock with so much promise could just go belly up. I will stay and see how it plays out.
LOL...Still her but not very happy right now.
Sterling, Mastertrader and Max Power...I want to make sure I've got this right.So Did EV actually look you guys and the face and tell you something different from what has happened?
I’m wondering who he expects to invest in Starfest after not issuing the dividends as promised and then pulling this little stunt? Hope I'm missing something...
Like those we’ve left behind and forgotten, ‘we’ve failed to recognize that there is value in this company because EV has done unto us as he has done unto those before us and as he will do unto those who follow. Yes sooner are later someone will reap the benefits of all the causalities in the end but who will that be is the question? Clearly, this guy is reckless, heartless and could care less about the business ethics of this country. He plays by the rules of a man who can be deported as a deal or alternative to going to prison. While everyone was yelling fire, “this guy is an arsonist; we kept throwing our fuels of hope onto the pile. He will stop only after he has accomplished his goals and who knows how expensive and when that will be?
We are all victims and those who went to Texas are no exception. As a matter of fact, they are probably his biggest victims as they heralded what they thought to be the truth. Rest assured that he did not approve those twenty billion shares as insurance. Experience has taught us that he will cash in on every single share. So from now one when you hear someone say that EV is a crook, maybe now you might listen with a sympatric ear as oppose to criticize as many of you did. I feel guilty as hell because I have talked someone whom I love into investing in this scam.
This is a mad man with other people's money.......
I have spent this evening wondering what manner of man is this guy EV. It wasn’t enough that he pulled an unannounced reversed split that cost a lot of good people a lot of money but he went onto cause more pain by diluting this stock to nothing before displaying the cold-heartedness to issue another 20 billion shares which will probably render worthless into less… Now we all know why they say what they do about him. Lets all pray that he gets what he has given unto us.
Wow...when was he going to tell us this...Tomorrow?
Sorry guys but I forgot someone who has given the board and me a ton of support…tenacious!!!! So Bux are you still with us as we move forward?
GO ARTS!!!!
I'm with MT, Sterling, Lion, serafin, Max power, and all who believe in ARTS....WE WILL WIN!!!!
GO ART!!!!!
LOL…Anyone who has predicted the decline of ARTS over the past 11 months haven’t been wrong either…Like someone pointed out to you, if they are for a stock and all of a sudden flip in the other direction, then that should tell you something.
I believe you’re right. This isn’t the norm and many want to treat it as such. Either way, we’ll all know as time marches on. Lion glad to see you’re still hanging tough along with Serafin. I’m with you guys until we get rich or broke…lol
Maybe he intends to max out the A/S then release some good news...if it's not too late that is...lol
Well, he certainly hasn’t been sharing any of these thoughts lately has he? Come to think of it…there are a lot of people who use to have lot to say are now quiet. Now is the time to express opinions if you have them…wouldn’t you say?
I don’t think that they are necessarily buying back but I’m exploring the options that they may have. Does any come to your mind beside a buy back?
Sorry Sky, that was a mistake on my part.
Rs99 thank you for that explaination, which answers lion’s question. Now comes the parts where the company doesn’t want anyone to know what they are doing. And I posed this question once before and it went unnoticed. Does the company have to use the TA when transferring stocks from the A/S to non-existing status? In other words, to make it go away? I’m just wondering if ARTS is doing something behind the scenes that we’d not expect them to do. Just exploring all the possibilities is all.
Not actually so, Arts can and did generate many of its own PR’s.
The longest we’ve gone without a PR is approximately 21 days and we’re now around day 19. Friday will place us at a tie with that longest date and Monday would put us beyond that date. Any thought? We need rain!
I realize that all the indications are there but I’m having a very hard time believing that EV would be diluting at this stage of game. We’re basically in his best time of the year and at the doorstep of a couple of very promising projects. The income should actually be coming in now. If the TA is gagged and there is no way of knowing if we’re seeing sells or buys, is it possible for him to actually be trimming of the A/S in another fashion or are we pretty much positive that the only way to knock the top of the A/S is to announce it and go through a specific procedure? I’m not in denial, just don’t want jump the gun and look stupid later.
Not a confirmation after all. You added up the total amount of volume and subtracted the large blocks and called the remainder buys? Very misleading……
So you did confirm that was a dump yesterday? Where did you go to confirm this?
Someone got some at .00015 yesterday because they had a bid in for .0002. Well there are bid's in which means that we're not at no bid yet...lol. I believe it was Sarafin who said he's had a bid in on the 2's for fifty million that hadn't gotten filled. So you can sell then but cannot buy then right...anyone trying to buy at .0003? None of this sound like a stock headed into a no bid to me. Maybe after EV buys all of space1230 shares back he'll tell you whats going on...lol
ARTS will come through just hold on!!!! You already know how emotional EV can be. I say that if he isn't saying anything that we're in good shape.
I'm not sure of what is meant by this lion but keep watching...
Go right ahead, I'm sure EV will love to take it off of your hands at that price....
Can anyone posting on this message board validate for me that the 467 million shares we saw exchange hands today was dilution?
That is an interesting thought…hold on to it…may earn you bragging rights later.
One would think that a guy with your subject vast knowledge in spotting good stocks would not be wasting his time harassing investors with what you clearly perceive as poor investment skills but instead be out using his knowledge to make his own stock plays. To what do we owe such and honor? Are you a philanthropist in the investment world or just an individual who cannot help but annoy those who are not interest in your opinions?
I’m betting I know about as much as you. Now how much do you know? Enough to guarantee you say? Okay, you got me there. I don’t know enough to guarantee it but it seems more logical than spouting off guarantees without so much as even a misguided fact to back up your spouting.
Newman, we need more buys, as the dumping seems to have stopped
Even if no news comes, I think we will see a few more MM’s sitting on that 0003 ask, worst case scenario. Providing ARTS doesn’t dump anything and I don’t think that they will.
“R/S, BK or something is about to happen was the comment”. The latter is my guess. They’ve stopped dumping and the mm has no more shares at the bid price. If investors are placing limits on their bids and the mm is sitting on inventory less than bid, then they have nowhere to go unless they sell it at a loss. Cannot sell over because no one wants to buy at those prices (yet). Can only sell under right? ARTS have squeezed them into a perfect corner. Boxed into their own box…sounds like. All bids sitting on the 1’s are dead if you ask me and there is no telling what is up with the 2’s (in otherwords,the amount available) but as soon as those squatting on the 1’s realize that it is a waste of time, they will be scrambling like hell to jump on whatever 2’s that are left. Expect news any day now… Folks we are about to run!!!!!! Filling orders below bid? Really?
Sounds like someone is trying to get out from under shares doesn't it? They've become use to ARTS dumping shares onto the market day after day, over the past 11 months and now things seems to be drying up. Selling at less than bid? That doesn't sound right does it? But they're doing it though.
A tree shaking trick is all. I hope none of you are buying into it...Hold your shares because ARTS is headed up,up,up!!!
GO ARTS!!!!!!
Perfect scenario, No dumping…now a little news please and everyone hold their shares….
I was referring to the content of the message to which you were responding. There was no finger pointing toward you in the message.
Its okay patience. People do that a lot over the computer. They tend to feel that they can pretty much do and say anyting behind the screen....lol