I got a reeeeeally bad feeling about this one. I mean if the market skyrockets and this thing is still sitting there they'll probably do something radical like wipe out the shares.


Ah geeze I sound like brute now.

you're absolutely right, I didn't think before I posted that.

yeah I don't see it as a positive either.

no, it'll just be banished. Like LehmQ

I concur. There's no other reason.

:) I told my landlord I was too liberal to pay my rent this month.....anyone got a couch I can crash on for a while?

yeah, look at that...It's really not following the overall market anymore.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I concur completely. Keep complaining to the sec, someone will listen eventually

Now do people such as bigdogs and everyone else who believed in this company see what a bunch of trash MONA is, and that garr needs to be investigated and thrown in prison to rot?

I don't think the economic crisis is keeping this thing from .30, there's been some negatives lately with the litigation and such. Using the economy as an excuse is kind of a cop-out. The company is supposedly great, yes, but that doesn't mean that this stock will ultimately hit .30

He doesn't really have a grain of salt because he's not just nay-saying. Dissent from the popular opinion is usually a good thing, it keeps optimism from running unchecked. But he's just spewing blatantly false things about warrants, gov't takeovers, privatization, etc. You can see a few of his more dubious posts stickied at the top of this forum. There hasn't been a bottom on this yet because there hasn't been a bottom on the economy. That creates fear, panic, and a drop in PPS

exactly. I'm not letting this drop until these scum pales pay.

ah ok,so it's not likely

where on Earth did you get that from? I've seen nothing to indicate that this was ever actually considered.

Absolutely. One of the best posts I've read on this board.

why bother though? I have an intolerance for fantasy with something as concrete as the market. Don't say it will be better next week, because there's about a 95% chance it won't be.

no. it won't. Stop saying that.

good idea. Accumulating just digs you deeper with some stocks. And given that over the past month this thing has been a typical stinky-pinky, I would advise against it.

you know that's not a bad idea. I have a ton of things to do today, but if I don't get to it today, I'm doing it Monday, if no one else has by then.

darnit darnit darnit. GREAT opportunity to buy in here. GREAT opportunity. Seriously, I'd buy in at these prices in a second, wait a week, then flip this.

Down 43%....great.

So what's the outlook here? I understand that patience is a virtue, but that at times seemes like an excuse here. The longer we wait, the lower this drops. We keep hearing about how great this company is, yet that's not reflected in the PPS in any way shape or form. If I told you about what's happened with this company, but didn't tell you that it was ASFX, you'd think it was a typical pinky scam. Yet people here seem to be dumping more and more money into this, ignoring this fact. For those still buying in, what is your time-frame here? If you make $1000 in a week off this or any stock, hey that's great...but if you wait 2 years to make that $1000 then was it worth it?

As for all the good news we were supposed to be getting, what happened to that? I talked to Conrad a couple of times, once before the financial crisis, and once after. I specifically asked about any negative or positive developments to be on the lookout for. He said that within a 'few weeks' there would be very positive developments for shareholders. Well we're about a month overdue on both of the times he claimed that. He also neglected to mention the lawsuit, the company made no attempt to warn any of us, and when it broke we got slammed back to the stone age. I know some people here have blamed the market crisis for the lack of follow through on positive word from the company, but that just sounds like an excuse to me.

I'm just mad because I thought that speaking with someone like Conrad, getting news from the horse's mouth so to speak, would be more reliable than what you usually get on these pinks. Turns out it was worse than I could've imagined. Now a lot of us are left holding the bag on this one. There's no sense selling since the position here is almost worthless. And averaging down is suicide, it's just dumping more money into a bottomless pit.

they got 20 million more?!?!? HAAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

i think this one is done. It won't fold, but when you're following market trends, and a 500 point surge has no effect, that's never good

that's still down though, I mean...the dow was up several %...we're down several. THe pattern here has been when the dow goes up, we go up, but not as much % wise. When the dow goes down..we go down just as much % wise. Now we don't go up, period. Not good

but it almost did....It's at .69. The dow had a furious rally, and this stayed absolutely flat. It didn't react at all. That's not good. Not at all

I'll be honest, I was one of those people. I don't LIKE obama, but I thought it would pop after he was elected. Whoops.

no actually, I don't think it is. I think this is where it's staying.

uht oh......we had a huge rally today at the end on the dow and this didn't do a thing. I'm thinking we're sunk here. Not like 'oooh this is toxic' but more like, this is staying sub dollar for good though.

not good. we've broken below support here.

a lot of these sales now are probably people that bought on that brief crash. This thing is going to hover around this level for a loooong time I'd bet. People might not like that, but I'm betting it's true. There's no reason to let this thing run up, you can keep it around these levels and then sell on the occasional 20% run ups it has.

Yessss go back there.....become what you were meant to be..yesssssssssssssss

yeah not so sure about this one. The money to be made on this one was from the volatility it had. There is no volatility now. We get bad news, or the market gets hammered...and we head south BIG TIME. We get good news or hte market rebounds...and we go south, slightly less than usual.

I actually think this one will recover eventually. EVERYTHING is getting hammered lately, not just this. I know that's not an excuse and doesn't make things easier for you or me holding this, but it's true. I'm thinking of just setting a bunch of GTC orders and not even looking at the market until 2009. It's not going to get any better any time soon. I'm betting we'll see 7000 on the Dow sooner rather than later. The triple digit rallies we keep seeing always give away to bigger triple digit losses. Not good times.

Remember guys! There's NO BAD NEWS COMING! There's great developments for share-holders coming up! Thanks conrad.....

if my position here wasn't worth about 3% of it's initial value I'd cut & run in a second.

yes....where have you been the last several months? You sound surprised!

hahahahhahahahha reminds me of my poor dad

I'm not saying they're obligated to tell us. But when you have people from the company telling us that everything is dandy and there's great developments about to come....and then a lawsuit drops,and the PPS drops, that's a problem. I'd sell off now, but the shares I have are next to worthless. If I was a new investor I'd be extremely weary of this company at anything other than the price it's at now.

haha I hope you're right.