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That is very correct even though Intel generally would spend whatever money needed to counter. HDC needs money and it may depend upon what Intel has in mind for that infringed patent which we don't know. It is clear in my thinking that the first positive process will be patent attorney discussions from Intel & HDC but if the talks break down civil court is next.
https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9015-appx-l.html#d0e305838
I keep thinking that the USPTO Judge felt much money was thrown at this case and hope Intel has spent enough on trying to defend. Damages in infringements will depend on many factors and the type of infringement.
Moderators post 12287 need to be tagged/sticky post so we never lose it, it is by Ruffis
then delete my 2 last posts.
Ruffis, I would love to know who you are : )
I have 15 years in HDC.eom
That is so...remember the 706 class with sub class 12 in Intel patent 7685077 and ours 706/12 in our patent 8095483 plus we have other sub classes involved in that same patent sub 15,16,20,45,62 they are from past continuing art work/patents. That was why I indicated days ago that Intel was able pull off a sub 12 but could not add the many other valuable sub class to that patent they had. our patent referencing SVM-RFE is 8095485 and the 7685077 is meaningless/dissolved/just a record.
And yes it is of value only if someone does something with it (buy) and is why I said our management needs to pull someone such as Mr. Tobin and Dr Albitar back into HDC but no money to be had unless the share price holds or we get another William Quirk to loan us a million or two and you recall the devastation he brought but he did save us for a few years. I was surprised that the company never issued restricted shares, also having insiders/restricted shares. We are already into series "C" shares last I recall around 30 OS!!!.
Nice post thank you. Some here should have been here years ago like you and I.
Another thing investors here need to understand I do hope our newest patent does finally click in a big way but what I have seen for so many years and can easily say it is so hard for not only retail investors to understand what potential is here but by the time it catches on the rest of the world kind a catches up.
Big Beef, I'm not sure if you want me to play along and not say anything as we should either close up @ .105 or down @.065 but as I mention long ago but can't find my message here that reflects that we will get 45% of what SVM Capital should make within that deal but the problem remained that what percentage was SVM Capital to make as a partner. You see the problem was the SVM patent is what I have been telling everyone it is a tool to enhance not a product. Next you will no longer find him involved in that company plus Manifold is gone. Now what happened in that dealings with Moore not sure but was reported in a press release or filing of ours that our CEO at the time was told by Mark Moore that Manifold felt that although the SVM technology being used to more so short stocks/funds that it wasn't enough of a tool until Manifold added their crappy stuff to our "Algorithms". So as you might now think as usual they may have developed their own SVM and we get shafted again.
Anyways say for instance everything is as you say such as 2015 the money made by our 45% of SVM Capital which we don't know what percentage SVM Capital was to get means as I said 2-3 years ago nothing. 45% of something we don't know as share holds is still nothing. A good follow through would be to say show me an 8-K of HDC where we made money?
Also show me where Mark Moore is still on this team
re: http://www.grailpartners.com/news/2015/6/16/svm-capital-joins-manifold-partners
You won't find him.
Short and long position PREDICTIONS I had forgot it had been design for predicting out come in shorting and on the upside and had accuracy but not enough.
Good morning Big Beef...just tuning in. It is a fact that anyone can use SVM but not the patented alithograms within. This is the "heart" which you already know but feel many here don't understand the technology within our patents. Intel like HDC also works in many areas and as far as using that patent for what some are hyping here all they need to do is READ the dang teaching areas several times then they may start to see what it details. The other aspect is that the patent is a basic SVR regression but Mr. Weston was able to RFE meaning Regression Feature Eliminate, each word in RFE as what is called teaching and teaching in patents just means "it must prove" mathematically true -->ALITHOGRAMS<--
Far more money can be made by shorting pennies. The typical retail investor is not able to short these. If you live in Canada you can. So to make it clear 99.9% of pennies fail and is a great reason to do so. As for shoring HDC where it stands it isn't a player nor do you want that to come into our company, and no insiders would not dare to short this as it is too risky (personally). The more this is pumped up with no proven value the more risk in us losing money. Traders here hope and don't care but investors and some with pie in the sky are the one's that get hurt simply because long term holders do just that the last ones to let go, newbies-hyperoo's mean no harm but don't help and just get hurt while the traders generally who pay for access on IHUB including live level 2 and things like AAManda software generally pay good money and say very little as they come and go meaning by and sell, simply making money generally each day.
If we close even or above and tomorrow within the first 45 minutes don't lose ground it should be a positive day. If we lose down during that time look for another pull back. I don't do L2 any more so have no clue about gaps but they generally fill however they can go un-filled but general don't
If this stock holds through the week I would NOW imaging that our CEO just may have something to say but not a pipe dream just yet.
HokieHead, I don't recall any past SEC filings where HDC has claimed that Intel was using our technology in their smart phones such as any sensors? as you claim in your message below.
Please post a SEC filing about this issue I must of been sleeping that day or perhaps I just don't remember. I am old you know.
re: https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=147288473
HDVY patent 8095483
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8095483.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8095483.pdf
The following are not called power class or power classification but rather Primary Class and Sub class/other.
Primary class is 706 followed by sub class such as 12 and so forth.
http://www.patentgenius.com/class/706/12.html
http://www.patentgenius.com/class/706/15.html
http://www.patentgenius.com/class/706/16.html
http://www.patentgenius.com/class/706/20.html
http://www.patentgenius.com/class/706/45.html
http://www.patentgenius.com/class/706/62.html
re: Congratulations to Health Discovery Corporation. Congratualations to Dr. Vladimir Vapnik. FALSE the main
party to thank is Jason Weston followed by Isabelle Guyon.
As for SVM and SVR yes Dr. Vladimir is king but also regression and elimination are as different as night and
day which is why Mr. Jason Weston is King of SVM-RFE.
Just for discussion Intel's primary and sub class only 706/12
King Oil...also I don't blame HDC for possibly making a few dollars Friday if indeed that took place and of course long over due and am glad the doors are still open. I do feel the matter of NeoGenomic vs HDC will need to be resolved prior to any possible future sale of our patents if HDC so decides to. It is clear the case was reopened last October.
Previous 8-K
On October 23, 2017, Health Discovery Corporation (the “Company” or “HDC”) issued a convertible promissory note (the “Promissory Note”) to George H. McGovern, III, the Chairman and CEO of the Company, and James Dengler, a Company shareholder (the “Note Holders”), for $300,000. The Promissory Note contains an 8% annual interest rate and is due on January 1, 2019 (the “Maturity Date”). The proceeds of the Promissory Note will be used for general working capital purposes. Pursuant to the terms of the Promissory Note, the Company granted to the Note Holders a priority security interest to all intellectual property as well as all past, current and future agreements involving the Company. The Promissory Note will be senior to all other unsecured indebtedness of the Company.
At any time, the Note Holders shall have the right to convert the principal and unpaid accrued interest of the Promissory Note into common stock of the Company at a conversion amount obtained by dividing (a) all principal and accrued but unpaid interest under the Promissory Note by (b) $0.004 per share, which is based upon the ten day moving average of the Company’s common stock on October 23, 2017 (the “Conversion Price”). The right of conversion (“Optional Conversion”) is solely at the Note Holders’ discretion.
In the event that there is a change of control transaction (a “Change of Control”) prior to the Maturity Date, the Promissory Note shall be immediately (i) repaid in the amount equal to 120% of the then outstanding principal or (ii) converted to common stock of the Company. The total number of shares of Common Stock the Note Holders shall be entitled to upon conversion shall be equal to the number obtained by dividing (a) all principal and accrued but unpaid interest under the Promissory Note by (b) the Conversion Price. The choice of repayment method is solely at the Note Holders’ discretion.
If not earlier converted in connection with a Change of Control Conversion or Optional Conversion, the Promissory Note will mature on January 1, 2019 and, at the option of the Note Holders, (i) principal and accrued interest shall be due and payable in cash at such time, or (ii) principal and accrued interest can be converted into common stock of the Company at the Conversion Price.
Additionally, the Note Holders shall be entitled to appoint two additional board members to the board of directors of the Company.
No big deal about that just a way to save money. We have none! He is really doing all he can but knowledge about our technology is as far lacking and being able to deal with it as possible. Our patent attorneys and Weston are able to tabulate that concern but we needed someone Dr. Albitar and perhaps Mr. Tobin to wheel and deal with these huge corporations. I can't express the time I have placed within this company and stock. Hey go to SHMP here on IHUB and you will see CEO Bill Williams...he was our CEO here early mid 2003. I know where all these characters are. I wish I could forget about all I know. Recall 4.5 million float when we had 30 million then Barnhill came in and we gave him 30 million shares plus we gave share to his buddy Sandy?? for formatics or whatever his patents where...I would have to look that up too far back.
I can't resist it...Barnhill has his stuff in a few places as to businesses but check out Doc's Place International in Jamaica
One other thing I am happy no PR came out today as that would have meant he will just pump and dump but do understand we will not hold this share price. Intel would fight for the patent simply because it was issued to them. David R Vincent and Peter Coughlan are the two at the USPTO that screwed thing up in the beginning.
Health Discovery Corporation management
CEO George H. McGovern III
The Board of Directors (the “Board”) of Health Discovery Corporation (the “Company”) voted on Friday, February 24, 2017 to appoint Mr. George H. McGovern, III as Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of the Company. Mr. McGovern has served as a member of the Board since May 2016. Additionally, Mr. McGovern will currently forgo any compensation for his services as Chief Executive Officer of the Company.
I was able to find a bio of our CEO - Mr. McGovern III as follows.... Covad Integrated Services, Inc. offers Internet service provider (ISP) services and provides virtual Internet service access on a turnkey basis. The company was formerly known as LaserLink.Net, Inc. Covad Integrated Services, Inc. was founded in 1995 and is based in Media, Pennsylvania. Covad Integrated Services, Inc. is a former subsidiary of MegaPath Group, Inc.
______________________________
Mr. Delmonte, age 49, has served in various capacities in his work with the Company since July 2010. Mr. Delmonte has held a variety of senior executive positions in finance and management including experience in corporate and investment banking at numerous financial organizations. Mr. Delmonte earned his B.S. from the Georgia Institute of Technology.
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Mr. Morrison, age 44, has over eighteen years’ experience as a senior executive and attorney in privately held companies in the legal and healthcare industries. After five years as a litigation attorney, Mr. Morrison joined MDA Management, Inc., which provides dental management services to Morrison Dental Associates, P.C. that serves over 38,000 active patients through locations in Georgia and South Carolina. Mr. Morrison oversees the operations of MDA Management, Inc. and Morrison Dental Associates, P.C. In this role, he oversees more than seventy-five employees, among them general dentists, dental specialists, hygienists, and other team members. Mr. Morrison earned his History degree in 1994 from Boston College and his JD from Emory University School of Law in 1998. Mr. Morrison was admitted to the Georgia Bar in 1998 where he remains a member in good standing.
________________________________
Ms. Colleen M. Hutchinson. Board member
Ms. Hutchinson, age 43, is founder and CEO of CMH Media, LLC, a full-service medical media company that provides turn-key publishing, writing, editing, and project management services, as well as overall communications strategies to medical associations, medical education companies, healthcare products companies, and medical institutions. Her work includes publication management, clinical reviews, educational enduring materials, meeting reports and summit guidelines/recommendations, consensus panel statements, and association strategic initiatives development. Ms. Hutchinson is the daughter of George McGovern. Recognized as a medical publishing expert, Ms. Hutchinson has presented at national and international meetings on the subjects of medical writing and publication. Ms. Hutchinson also produces her On the Spot columns in General Surgery News, Clinical Oncology News, and Gastroenterology & Endoscopy News.
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Mr. William F. Fromholzer. Board member
Mr. Fromholzer, age 72, is a retired executive with global work experience with both public and private companies. Among his positions he served as Senior Vice President and Corporate officer of Indium Corporation of America (ICA). His primary responsibility was to expand the national footprint to a global sales, marketing, distribution and manufacturing company serving the electronics industry. Today ICA is recognized as a global leader in its space. Also, he was Vice President of Sales for DUSA Pharmaceuticals, a public dermatology company, whose main drug Levulan is used to treat precancerous Actinic Keratosis. In addition, he served as a director of LaserLink.Net, an Internet services company that was acquired by Covad Communications.
Big Beef...just watch them and smile, everything needed is in the patent and primary class along with sub class. If a few here would have look at least at the "kind code" of the patent they would have known the date hasn't been extended. Recall 706/12 verses 706/12, 15,16,20,45,62
The 45 minute rule did not apply today.
Koog...see that my other message here is deleted too plus this one when board moderators are here tomorrow.
Yes stick with a real company INTC-Intel...I have known HDVY forever and yes it is being pumped and should move well tomorrow but it won't hold.
HDVY maybe a fast run but don't get caught holding it.
I have held that stock for 15 years waiting on exit. I don't believe many understand the Primary class and of course sub class /other when reading patents. That is all that exist as to recognition that HDVY got their patent back. It takes a real company with the right officers and of course massive institutional buying, not to mention products. Yes, is it possible that Intel needs this patent to incorporate within their many chips? could be but history of HDVY IS SAD, REAL SAD.
Big Beef if this was 2000 all over indeed, I wouldn't even move off my butt for $30k swings in profits back then but man things are different these days so I'll happily grab off the table these dayS. My biggest loss two of them back to back $480k and never got that back, what the heck!
Nathan, Intel changed the patent 3 plus time to accommodate the damn USPTO but the problem actually started because the dude working on clearances to alicate or refuse that patent did not have enough knowledge in this are to understand it.
When these patents are written it is done in a way that every part in the wording and combinations (to say the least) is call "teach" meaning a "teaching fact" or it is refused. 8 plus years ago and especially in 2003 this technology was light years ahead of so much (damn I'm getting pissed) Anyways when Intel was awarded the patent HDC copied in an filed it with the USPTO to create a Interference so the patent office would look at the problem but in short the USPTO screwed up.
Later time for Nascar
Excellent : ).eom
As I recall October 9 or 12 of 2018 case reopened
Follow my link
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=147249248
That is false, people are also not understanding the "primary class" and for a bad word "sub class" or "other" in the patent. Oh, I almost forgot plus understanding "kind code
Nothing personal
MBMoney...this is starting to look good too!
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=147231837
Big beef go to my information page, moderating new message board.
Moderator here please leave my post for 1 hour if possible then delete my message, TIA
Good Sport, if memory serves which it doesn't at times Cramer was approached about HDVY years ago however, if Cramer has it out for Intel he might create another big run here. The more I think about the past I believe that "Suporrt Vector Machine" (SVM) was brought to his attention. Damn many years ago so I'm not sure?
Rocket...you do recall Qualcomm but with that being said I personally don't believe Intel would be able to push the needed Althigrams fast enough however, I am sure Intel is using the patent for medical gene purpose.
Lets light it up!.eom
Imperativity, Scott Tobin would have been our perfect CEO but as you recall the BS.
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Nice to see you again...are you not missing a smoking pipe from your alias information page.
King Oil not sure but money talks and BS walks however, is it also possible that Intel could lose a larger playing field not to have this resolved quickly due to HDC future patent developments. In other words further development on that patent are probably being developed. Patent development never stops with a patent they are continued and developed further.
Grant you I haven't recently checked to see what development any of our patent inventors have done simply because I thought for sure that HDC would lose the fight with Intel.
I must say that I feel that Intel super sized that patent further and if Weston viewed it as such no doubt he might be modifying 7,685,077 even FURTHER for FUTURE technologies so yes in many ways maybe Intel should not prolong this event any further and do business with HDC however, all this must still tie into HDC dealings with NeoGenomic corporation.
Technology is just that but HDC is not capable of handling such a feat but yes Intel or perhaps NeoGenomic could. BTW... our present CEO is not capable for this type of operation nor is his daughter.
I just hope "Stephen D Barnhill" doesn't stick his nose in our business again but won't put it past him. (I have no respect for barnhill so I would never address him as a doctor of anything except of destruction.
I know the entire history and I know who I would bring in to transact everything. I will not go back into my records just yet but he also worked at Quest years ago. He even sued Barnhill as I recall..but there is more to that story. Right now I want to setup for Mondays run.
No I am not talking about "William Quirk the 3rd"...actually I believe he has died last time I checked?
I just found the past officer R. Scott Tobin would be one to run this company.
Big Beef, Non reporting is non reporting regardless of share price and being grounded allows for clear thinking in most cases.
Big Beef, this has my full attention in a big way, I have my strategy in place.
Not necessarily true, it depend upon past, present and future income sources.eom
Big Beef...you sell when ever you so desire. You have seen the traders come and go and they did Friday too, marrying stocks and hitting it big is extremely stupid but everyone at least me looks to find that diamond in the rough. Why not let to pump go foreword Monday as we have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I mean look where we were so what the heck. I do like the idea of selling half but since I didn't ever pull money off the table to at least cover my expenses I must look at all that today.
I posted last December I had "Quad bypass surgery" heck I will be 69 soon and was 52 years old when I first invested here. I didn't want to just trade in and out here because future potential would be huge but "The Barnhill Shuffle" screwed us all bigtime. I figured later on when Dr. Albitar left HDC for NeoGenomics was cool until NeoGenomics corporation press released that he would be exclusively working under and within NeoGenomic then and then only did I sense the last nail in our coffin lid.
Yes indeed let them crank this engine up as we have nothing to lose.
Big Beef that is correct and I doubt very much if you sold your position unless it was Friday and don't blame you if you did. The history has burnt us for many years...at least my 15 years but it does look good but money problems plus being a pink sheets speaks loud too.
I need to study this further to see if the USPTO will extend the date of the patent due to time during litigation/reexamination.
https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s2265.html
If indeed Intel has been using this patent for products Intel will no doubt do so. I say this due to many facts facing each company. My other thought would be that Intel would also purchase the rest of the patent portfolio. I do wonder about the wasted years if that accounts for any follow through monies for HDC. Also would the USPTO extend the date of our patent due to years lost? Maybe watch this later at http://www.freepatentsonline.com
I am a bit curious about about our arbitration with NeoGenomics, if we allow Intel to buy HDC patent portfolio or combined with HDC corporation how would that affect our current/possibly future arbitration case 3:17-cv-00752 https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=147231837
Here are a few web links that some may wish to read. Do note in the first link the word "REGRESSION"
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/improving-svm-performance-with-intel-daal
https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/bigdata/topic/714855
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1526004
It really does look like Intel needs the SVM-RFE - RFE-SVM for possibly their future chips and also the Bio-informatics
I don't believe this will go to anything close to .60 cents next week but this is bigger than I had thought, I have been here since May of 2003.
Here are a few court descriptions of direct information in the arbitration case between NEO and HDC. What is interesting on October 15th it is stated by the court that Dr. Albitar must provide deposition whereas our past CEO Mr. Kowbel's does not. The judge denied it. If i get time I will try to see if anything is new about this.
Monday, October 15, 2018
51 4 pgs order Order on Motion to Take Deposition Mon 2:29 PM
ORDER granting in part and denying in part 44 Motion to Take Depositions. The Clerk shall issue a subpoena for Dr. Albitar's deposition.
The Motion is denied as to the issuance of a subpoena for Mr. Kowbel's deposition. See Order for further details. Signed by Magistrate
Judge Monte C. Richardson on 10/15/2018. (MMP)
Tuesday, October 09, 2018
50 3 pgs order Order on Motion to Reopen Case Tue 5:20 PM
ORDER granting 41 Corrected Joint Motion to Re-Open Case and For Other Relief. The Court adopts the Agreed HIPAA Qualified Protective Order
and Order to Disclose Protected Health Information, which is attached to this Order. The case shall remain administratively closed pending
arbitration. Signed by Judge Timothy J. Corrigan on 10/9/2018. (SEJ)
Att: 1 Agreed HIPAA Qualified Protective Order and Order to Disclose Protected Health Information
Monday, October 08, 2018
49 notice Notice (Other) Mon 5:02 PM
NOTICE by NeoGenomics Laboratories, Inc. re44 Joint MOTION to Re-Open Case for Issuance of Subpoenas(Simonitsch, William)
Att: 1 Exhibit A
Yes indeed.eom
I have a million dollars that says you are so wrong.eom