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LOL that was good........a bottle of Nutripure of course!
LOL maybe they went to Inka Grill for lunch! LOL
Thanks for your comments, really appreciate it! You have a well grounded approach! GL
Information above may be speculative, based on mis-information, contain inaccurate data, be entirely tongue-in-cheek, depending on how much liquor I consume, how litigious and degree of stupidity / gullibility exhibited by the poster/reader I respond to.
Since we are speculating the black box may well hold and unquantifiable set of benefits. Not so a given a tool of investment but not a total level of distrust either.
If there is an effort to generate or posture to look as if to generate speculative sales of PGPM shares, at this time, it is not working as we see an effort of some sort to drive down PGPM, or a least a resemblance of a downward trend even given a waffling between .0004/.0005.
I think scam would be not in the picture given moving up board, but stranger things happen in the market. Realizing there is a lot of grey areas here and no facts to gauge assets or values other than what we have stated, there may be some valuable information coming forth in the next few days..or soon, that we may be able better ascertain potential or otherwise.
I await some given detailed information, holding the frustration of time elapses. I am leaning more of the opinion that there is a filing and is being reviewed that may be the hold up currently.
ncpti
Agree 100%. Maybe masc can email peno and make a subtle suggestion! Anything that will help us shareholders...right!
I am hoping but not relying on this outcome to up the stance of PGPM to benefit the shareholders. I will or be willing to expect the lesser valued up speculation, or the speculation of given facts to date in a related dividend.
However, the box, black box, and timing of deal execution, pricing/timing of share price pay date, relations of Lariat and all other UNKNOWNS, really cloud any fore-casted expectations. Maybe expectation is the wrong word...but at this point we have not a handle to grasph! But...doesn't the black box spin your wheels, just a little?
ncpti
Nothing wrong with that masc, your doing good and especially the fact that he responds to you! Good job keep it up!
I don't believe that we are going to get any more details until they start the process of disclosure. I agree with downsideup that they/us will benefit with good timed release of information bit by bit. As I said in an earlier post if they unload on us everything at the same PR...you will see signs of chaos in trading. So to that end it would be beneficial to PGPM/ACLE to present this in a manor that is logical, timely (whoops) or at the right time to encourage (no fear) in your investment.
I don't think these people on staff or paid to facilitating this deal have a language barrier when crunching the numbers or layout of the end told.
ncpti
Actually it looks like he kept his cool. I think I would be a little ...just a little bit off with my statement in regards to your disclosure to a Internet board, (if I was a CEO).
So it tells me a little....maybe that when the deal is done he is confident that all will be redeemed. He is after all a large holder of PGPM and would not take a short end...at least in my opinion. Just the fact that he mentioned that (up board) there are few new rules makes him very aware that more eyes are upon them. Fully realizing that us little share holders (who may just have most of the float) can be very annoying and impatient. I know I am! LOL In the long run we may only be days away from the start of the "UNFOLD"! I hope! So we put it as Ralph puts it "SOON"!
But I did like your letter as it makes him aware that there are the concerned watching!
ncpti
From another site....hedge funds will continue to implode!
http://www.sec.gov/rules/final.shtml
Oct. 15, 2008 Disclosure of Short Sales and Short Positions by Institutional Investment Managers (Interim final temporary rule)
File No.: S7-31-08
Effective Date: §§ 240.10a-3T, 249.326T and temporary Form SH are effective from October 18, 2008 until August 1, 2009
Comment Due Date: 60 days after publication in Federal Register
Submit comments on S7-31-08
34-58775 Oct. 14, 2008 Amendments to Regulation SHO
File No.: S7-19-07
Effective Date: October 17, 2008
See also: Proposed Rule Release No. 34-56213 and comments
34-58774 Oct. 14, 2008 "Naked" Short Selling Antifraud Rule
File No.: S7-08-08
Effective Date: October 17, 2008
See also: Proposed Rule Release No. 34-57511 and comments
34-58773 Oct. 14, 2008 Amendments to Regulation SHO (Interim final temporary rule)
File No.: S7-30-08
Effective Date: October 17, 2008 except §242.204T is effective October 17, 2008 until July 31, 2009
Beautiful, now your cooking baby!
I am contemplating picking up a few shares of ACLE if for no other reason just to have the symbol in my trading account.....any comments, good/bad???
LOL A whopping total of 82 cents for the stock??? Maybe a trader needing a trade quota?????
He seems to be all over the place with respect to delivery time!
Today the day....maybe?
I'll have a few bucks ready to roll later in the week.....but waiting for that "not screw PGPM holders" news!!!! I would like to see ACLE reset and see how she stabilizes and of course the news following to show the game plan! LOL
Stand corrected......my appoligies 20year....redirect to Hunter!
Q....I like that!
Kevin I am wondering if you can put a section on the home page of NUBV.ORG that links the updates.
Such as;
UPDATE,
"12-1-08 news flash" ##@#%$$@nubv.org
"12-2-08 meeting notes" ##$#%$$@nubv.org
That way when we visit the home page in a flash we can see if something has been updated, changed, added, corrected or whatever????? Just a thought!
ncpti
The volume is speaking volumes!
Yes the Fox report....good! I have floated by and fished the rocks when leaving out of New Port beach. If Ralphy pull this off maybe a new boat in the horizon.
LOL, I think it is more like how Ralphy defines soon!
In the words of our fearless CEO...."Soon" LOL
ncpti
That's good brain storming Mike. Lets see what this meeting with the brass produces.....keeping all options open!
ncpti
Thanks. The black box will hold many keys of which we will be able to analyze better. If we get info feed little by little and to the positive I would venture this will be a stable climb. I can see some crazy swings if they drop everything at the same time.
Stocks CAN perform in that way which makes that approach useful...
Look at a chart for QCOR and ask what you would have done if you bought it at $0.21 in August of 2007... sell some at $6.60, buy again below $4, then... ,
Right now.......stop loss at 7 bucks! Broke the glass so expect to settle back a bit now...????
It depends on how the PR's are structured for me.....! We really don't know what they have been up to the last few months. If they come out with an "OMG WOW" PR I will hang for the ride. If they have no surprises but we (PGPM holders) get a good deal I will capture my investment and related costs keeping a core free position. If we get screwed I will piss on them.
ncpti
With that group there make sure someone takes pictures for NUBV.ORG! Putting a face in front of a name goes a long way!
ncpti
I sure would like to know what they are saying....need to put it in the translator....LOL! But looks like it is going far!
ncpit
Used all my beer money for NUBV
NUBV = .00 bid = NO BEER! :(
Thanks masc, next week should be exciting! Any possibility that the dividends will be restricted???? Assuming they will be in shares.
So what is Ralph telling us...Divi buyout soon, meaning by next quarter and the split next week or buyout before the split and all is done next week???? Confused!
I absolutely agree!
Some form of benefit of business (I will use that loosely at this point) should be afforded to them in the day to day operations and forecast planning.
I think that us retail investors in the dark can create a monster out of shear speculation, desperation, anticipation and superior and or ulterior guided conclusion.....!
ncpti
Hey Kevin...here is something of a slogan you can overlay on one of the web pages of NUBV.ORG....
Fact based, fact action, fact information.,
Maybe not in that order....just a thought...!
ncpti
Hey H20-
A person that wants to get right down to business...drop the hammer! I like that and that is how I am when coming to business.
The problem is in this case we have no proof of intent to defraud. In fact I don't even like to reference such sayings as it predominately places a negative in the atmosphere!
And we can hardly sue for stupidity or lame PR's (remember the forward looking statement clause)....In fact you don't sue unless your going to win...and then you have to justify what your winning to even consider this as a viable action. (in my business I see a lot of 10K suits that cost 20K) The thing about these little pinky scam companies is they draw many bucks and when it comes down to getting a return by suit...how much juice can you squeeze out of a prune to start with compared with what it cost, (dollars taken in pps),from investors!!!! I am not saying that is the case here, and we will all keep our eyes on them.
The conference call I am with you on as that would be much help, but we have to get them to participate. We can work in that direction.
The last PR, I was a little disappointed in the content, but happy that we received one. I think they felt the pressure and are starting to "hear" us little investors. With Kevin's site NUBV.ORG this is what will cause some action. Now the objective is to produce facts and inform investors. Fact based, fact action, fact information.
Now if I was voting on the PR disclosure, I would vote to ditch the Japan thing and get the water out here in the USA...but work on the Japan thing and or Europe down line!
This last PR...and just me reading between the lines, just kind of indicated they were or are scrambling. Maybe they are catering to the overseas market in hopes of getting future investments>>>>>?????? So said they are looking for MONEY by some!
We can't fixe it unless we know what the obsitcals or problems are! JMO
ncpti
BTW a Mr. Bruce Friedman was the Top share holder (2 times more shares than anyone present) even more than Ron we need to find out who he is!!!!!!!!,
Very good idea! As well as the others if we can.
What's up with these 6 dollar trades at 10,000 shares???
It's very frustrating that the company doesn't let us know what going on! Using Kevin's site as a tool and or leverage so to speak, to get them off the pot and get moving is one of the goals. Or expose them if such a case that they were less than honest with us investors????
What ever the case may be I thing it will happen soon. If I was them I would definitely be feeling the pressure!
GLTA GO NUBV......show us what you got!
Good morning everyone.
What's the game plan for this next week? NUBV-MAN what are your plans from afar? Anything transpire from your meeting with your people regarding your post #28761 and #28604?
We need a plan to force a PR....even if it is "we are working on it"! We need more transparency from NUBV period! If Steve is the guy that gia says he is then he is ready to go! But the show is controlled by NUBV as far as going to market! This is what we have to concentrate on, imo! The Company is being evasive, this should be a goal that we get through and find out details.
There are many smart people contributing here, and if the Company has run into a road block....we are here to help find solutions. There may be many here that are company owners, such as my self, that are oriented and geared in running a businesses, that can put forth suggestions to further NUBV to market and protect our investments! We need to know precisely what the problem is in order to "fix" it!
Good luck, positive thinking and have a good weekend everyone!
ncpti
Ok buddy, and I agree respect means a bunch. The company should respect us shareholders and put out some info. I know we all called, emailed, etc....you would think they would get the point. Maybe they have with all the ruckus here in the last few days!
Anyway, bottoms up on your Texas tea enjoy the float! Now that's something I miss as I sold my sport fisher last year!
ncpti
NUBV-MAN
Someone got you riled up today??? I think the point of Kevin's site NUBV.ORG is a start to get to the bottoms of things. Some things we already know from postings. However you have a very large investment as all us little investors think our investment here is large. You have been face to face with these people, you have a better feel for this than anyone else.
If you have means to help get to the bottoms of things for your own knowledge it would help us out greatly as well.
But first one must know the facts before jumping off to slamming heads, right! So a little fact finding would help go a long way, IMO.
You might expose a legit company just having some money problems as some posts here indicate...ya never know!
As stated in NUBV.ORG the investors are there to help if we know what the problems are and help get things done...get er done! If we find otherwise then we go up for battle...but facts first! Go NUBV
Just donated...keep this going forward Kevin!
I can do #2 ok but as far as #1 the wife cut me off until what I picked starts making money...LOL!
There should be a membership fee...I am in. Let's ipo this..LOL!
ncpti all the way in! But the suspense is killing me! LOL